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John Oakman
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.11 18:56:00 -
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I've been playing EVE for about a week now, running a few missions here and there in random star systems, mostly focusing on distribution since it's basically the only one available, except security which I dislike. I have finished with the agents at Trossere and I'm thinking about moving on. The problem is that I have no idea where that place may be. So my question is simple: Where do I go?
To continue my career, I figure doing as many missions as possible will be instrumental. I'm trying to get my standings up so I can unlock the level 2 agents, although I've been having difficulty doing so. Still an newb. 
My real interest in the EVE universe is mining and shipping, as well as a bit of trading. Engaging in combat with other players doesn't appeal to me.
So, that's that. I am still trying to understand the ropes, still unsure of a ton of information that I am probably completely unaware of... All in good time, I suppose I should begin other paths, but for now, I want to keep to on with what I'm doing.
I thank you for your time,
John Oakman. |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1074
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Posted - 2014.02.11 18:58:00 -
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You go here. "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |

WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
154
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:02:00 -
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Before going anywhere, I highly suggest you read about proper mining etiquette. |

Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
286
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:04:00 -
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even if yoo are nawt fiteing lern 2 tank |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4158
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:07:00 -
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The first thing you do is delete your OP and re post in the new players forum where it's not allowed to troll you the way you are about to be trolled.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1660
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:20:00 -
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John Oakman wrote:My real interest in the EVE universe is mining and shipping, as well as a bit of trading. Engaging in combat with other players doesn't appeal to me.
Trading is where the isk is, and to get into that you need a secondary income stream. Distribution missions work because they don't require large amounts of combat focused SP, and they gain you standings which is very important in reducing taxes and fees when trading. Gotta make sure you're missioning for a corp that owns trade hubs (fed navy for dodixie, cal navy for jita, emperor family for amarr). You also may want to look at some tutorials on how to build a spreadsheet that can import prices for you.
I would caution you on how much SP to invest into mining, as its kind of a dead end profession. The SP don't help for anything other than mining, and you don't get standings out of it either. Its an income source that requires a lot of SP to cap out, isn't impressive once you do, so the the only way to actually scale up is to get more accounts. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Kryptik Kai
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
10522
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:22:00 -
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EVE Uni "Shiny.-á Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
1761
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:55:00 -
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John Oakman wrote:My real interest in the EVE universe is mining and shipping
Then you go nowhere. You get yourself a mining ship and find yourself a belt, and mine away. Until you get ganked over and over. And bumped over and over. Then you either quit the game, or realize that EVE Online is a multi-player game in which case you find yourself a corporation (any corporation except those that "specialize" in industry because they are just going to exploit you - why pay for something you can do just as cheaply yourself?). Meet up with friends. Do new things together.
Or, you could, you know, explore the "other" side of the game. The dark side. And blow. Stuff. Up. How much stuff? All of the stuff.
Spreadsheet friends are never as sincere as combat friends. Always remember that. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
2418
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Posted - 2014.02.11 20:58:00 -
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One thing I think every new player needs to know about is DotLan. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Desivo Delta Visseroff
Cataclysmic Paradox
118
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Posted - 2014.02.11 21:18:00 -
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This thread is a scam. It reads like a scam. If we were in the same room, it would smell like a scam. Therefore, it must be a scam. I just haven't narrowed it down beyond AWOX, Safari, Newbro give-me-isk, market manipulation, gank bait and/or courier contract scam.
It's one of those. I'm certain of it |

Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1022
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:41:00 -
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Better yet spend ten million tanking your fit and keep aligned to a safe spot, fleet up and get a friend to boost for you.
Don't be a target or a victim. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Reckless Ourtomineng
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:49:00 -
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To the Toilet? |

Capt Handbanana
Mine Your 0wn Business The Kadeshi
0
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Posted - 2014.02.11 23:28:00 -
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Head on out to null, plenty of strapping young lads willing to help. If they lock you, its just a rep, I promise. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
10191
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Posted - 2014.02.11 23:32:00 -
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Recommended reading or all new players:
ISK: the guide. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1166
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:01:00 -
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Batelle wrote: I would caution you on how much SP to invest into mining, as its kind of a dead end profession. The SP don't help for anything other than mining, and you don't get standings out of it either. Its an income source that requires a lot of SP to cap out, isn't impressive once you do, so the the only way to actually scale up is to get more accounts.
I'm throwing up a little, but no discussion of mining and standings would be complete without mentioning L4 mining missions. You get standing, isk, LP, and because of how deadspace pockets work, reduced chance of being ganked. The SP is still totally wasted for anything else. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |

Winchester Steele
329
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:22:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:The first thing you do is delete your OP and re post in the new players forum where it's not allowed to troll you the way you are about to be trolled. Mr Epeen 
/snicker
To be honest, this one is just so naive I don't think I have the heart. Maybe I'm not a psycho after all :( ... |

Winchester Steele
329
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:25:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:John Oakman wrote:My real interest in the EVE universe is mining and shipping Then you go nowhere. You get yourself a mining ship and find yourself a belt, and mine away. Until you get ganked over and over. And bumped over and over. Then you either quit the game, or realize that EVE Online is a multi-player game in which case you find yourself a corporation (any corporation except those that "specialize" in industry because they are just going to exploit you - why pay for something you can do just as cheaply yourself?). Meet up with friends. Do new things together. Or, you could, you know, explore the "other" side of the game. The dark side. And blow. Stuff. Up. How much stuff? All of the stuff. Spreadsheet friends are never as sincere as combat friends. Always remember that.
^. This right here is probably the best actual advice you will get in GD. ... |

Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
712
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:39:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Ptraci wrote:John Oakman wrote:My real interest in the EVE universe is mining and shipping Then you go nowhere. You get yourself a mining ship and find yourself a belt, and mine away. Until you get ganked over and over. And bumped over and over. Then you either quit the game, or realize that EVE Online is a multi-player game in which case you find yourself a corporation (any corporation except those that "specialize" in industry because they are just going to exploit you - why pay for something you can do just as cheaply yourself?). Meet up with friends. Do new things together. Or, you could, you know, explore the "other" side of the game. The dark side. And blow. Stuff. Up. How much stuff? All of the stuff. Spreadsheet friends are never as sincere as combat friends. Always remember that. ^. This right here is probably the best actual advice you will get in GD.
apart from don't mine. mining is horrible from a fun and an isk angle (unless you multibox dozens of miners). Don't transport. Manufacturers treat you as a low paid idiot and everyone else treats you as a target/income source. Combat missions are a cruel joke but done right can be ok income. wormholes can be good income. trading is very good income if u like that sort of thing. manufacturing and PI make ok passive income. exploration is more fun because the risk of your pve ship in hostile space and gamble on what you find and what it drops.
The two most important bits though. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Isk is only useful for PVP and pvp is the only really fun bit of eve. (NB every aspect of eve is a form of PVP but most people don't really get how)
Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:49:00 -
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There has already been some great guides linked here, but going to add some more to the list.
First off, if you havent done so already you should do the Sisters of EVE epic arc missions. Will give you a decent amount of ISK, as well as help your standings.
Second. You have a lot of options in EVE, and only you can decide which ones you want to do. Keep in mind that no matter what profession you choose, someone will tell you that "your doing it wrong". Accept it, its just how it is  This link can help you get further ideas on what you want to do long term.
Third. At this point you should have started to consider leaving your NPC corp. If you are unsure what to expect once you make this jump, you can try to read over this post which covers some of the advantages and disadvantages that comes with your choice.
And as someone mentioned above, for questions like this its better to post in the NCQA section of the forum where there is less chance that you will get trolled 
Good luck and welcome to EVE! Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
784
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:43:00 -
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You poor soul. It's so sad that this is the introduction new players STILL get to the game, until they finally decide to reach out.
I hope somebody helps you before it's too late.
(there's some good advice in this thread) Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Cassia Aetius
Antumbra Corporation
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Posted - 2014.02.12 03:56:00 -
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I'm new too, started a week ago...
I applied to EVE Uni, one of the first days, their application process will guide you in how to set up overviews, and your UI in general, also mentioning things like D-Scan and other basic stuff, which is well worth the read.
Then I did the SOE arc, and went to a NPC corp that has a good amount of research agents, working towards L4's with distribution missions, while I wait for inteview to EVE Uni, it takes a week+.
Yesterday I also went to low sec in my PVE corax... A DJ on EVE radio had a competition killing a guy hiding in a certain constellation, so I just went, I knew I would lose my ship, but it was still fun! Ended up in a fleet with other people hunting this guy, and of course veterans crashed the party to get easy kill mails! 
What I'm trying to say is, fit something cheap and just go do whatever YOU want, don't give a damn about anyone... play your way, and if someone is in your way, kill them! lol |

WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
156
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Posted - 2014.02.12 06:28:00 -
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Cassia Aetius wrote:I'm new too, started a week ago... I applied to EVE Uni, one of the first days, their application process will guide you in how to set up overviews, and your UI in general, also mentioning things like D-Scan and other basic stuff, which is well worth the read. Then I did the SOE arc, and went to a NPC corp that has a good amount of research agents, working towards L4's with distribution missions, while I wait for inteview to EVE Uni, it takes a week+. Yesterday I also went to low sec in my PVE corax...  A DJ on EVE radio had a competition killing a guy hiding in a certain constellation, so I just went, I knew I would lose my ship, but it was still fun! Ended up in a fleet with other people hunting this guy, and of course veterans crashed the party to get easy kill mails!  What I'm trying to say is, fit something cheap and just go do whatever YOU want, don't give a damn about anyone... play your way, and if someone is in your way, kill them! lol What is this?! Actual good advice from an actual new player?! *Checks to see that I'm in fact reading a thread in GD* This player get's it. Hop in a spaceship (you can afford to lose) and shoot other spaceships, and don't be afraid of 'sploding, creating a hilarious lossmail.
+1 |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1686
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Posted - 2014.02.12 14:43:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Batelle wrote: I would caution you on how much SP to invest into mining, as its kind of a dead end profession. The SP don't help for anything other than mining, and you don't get standings out of it either. Its an income source that requires a lot of SP to cap out, isn't impressive once you do, so the the only way to actually scale up is to get more accounts.
I'm throwing up a little, but no discussion of mining and standings would be complete without mentioning L4 mining missions. You get standing, isk, LP, and because of how deadspace pockets work, reduced chance of being ganked. The SP is still totally wasted for anything else.
Thanks for adding this. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

John Oakman
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.14 01:43:00 -
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Creating this thread just gave me more questions than answers. With a bit of research, I've been able to make a couple million in trading, as well as dip my toes into ratting in my Catalyst.
Next time, I should ask questions knowing they won't lead to more questions... |

Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT Brothers Of The Dark Sun
141
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Posted - 2014.02.14 01:49:00 -
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John Oakman wrote:Creating this thread just gave me more questions than answers. With a bit of research, I've been able to make a couple million in trading, as well as dip my toes into ratting in my Catalyst.
Next time, I should ask questions knowing they won't lead to more questions...
Ah but you have just scratched the surface...take the blue pill and see just how far down the rabbit hole goes.  |

Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
2124
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Posted - 2014.02.14 02:30:00 -
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John Oakman wrote:
My real interest in the EVE universe is mining and shipping, as well as a bit of trading. Engaging in combat with other players doesn't appeal to me.
Take up trading. Invest a little money into an item at one station, move it to another and sell it at a higher price. Get good at it, and you will make more money than you will ever need. Or you can just mine. Kinda boring but to each his own I guess.
It's not easy though. Just because you don't want to engage in combat with other players doesn't mean it won't happen. Your cargo ship full of goodies you want to sell? Someone is going to try and blow that up and take your goods. That new mining barge that will let you clear entire asteroid belts? Someone will kill you for both profit and tears.
Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |

Muestereate
Minions LLC
173
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Posted - 2014.02.14 07:29:00 -
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This thread should be locked. its an obvious troll to try to get an emotional response out of the local psychotics. Bless their crazy souls :) |

Shvak
The Warp Core Stabilizers Tactical Narcotics Team
43
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Posted - 2014.02.14 08:35:00 -
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It's a sandbox, so get your bucket and spade out and build sandcastles    |

djentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc.
96
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Posted - 2014.02.14 09:44:00 -
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my best advice is to go to all of the places while doing all of the things.
in this process you will find some of the places and things are more fun to you then some of the other places and things.
find what places are your favorites to do those things, then do those things in those places.
you're welcome :) |

John Oakman
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:47:00 -
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Haha! This has to be the best advice ever! |
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