High to high, just never put more than 800m of stuff in a freighter and you aren't economically worth ganking. ("For the lulz" ganks are rare as freighter popping isn't cheap). If you have to move high value compact items, use a covops frigate, an interceptor, or something similarly agile. (I often fly ~1b loads around in Interceptors and there's not many systems I would not take things to).

While its not cheap, if all the targets have 1bn in their holds, you can get a lot of lolz out before running into money issues.

hop in a frigate with an MWD and undock from jita 4-4, turn the MWD on and burn a minimum of 300Km (preferably go off grid entirely) in a straight line, then create a bookmark.

When you undock, the first thing you do is warp to that bookmark. Because you're already pointing at it and moving at full speed, you'll warp instantly out of undock invulnerability. No instapop possible.

Id guess death on undock too. Easily avoided with an insta warp safe.


The real mystery here is why the thread is about freighters.

With a Tornado you can get a volley over 13k. That means even if concord is sitting on a 1.0 sec gate, there's a good chance the T1 industrial is going to pop.

...just sayin'.

I wish I had started highsec ganking years and years ago...

You need more bookmarks.
At least one, but preferably two for anything you intend to warp to and another one for anything you want to undock from.

Another 2 month old thread lol.

Yup. Didn't notice until after I had posted.

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After noon all,

First, IGÇÖm going start with GÇ£I made some bad choicesGÇ¥. I feel I had made better choices after the fact but luck wasnGÇÖt on my side this last time.

Recently returned. Prior to leaving I didnGÇÖt have much trouble with these types of things before. Now been having all sorts of issues.

So spit it out already whatGÇÖs the problem? Just Hauling stuff. I only manually fly, I do not use AP.

I logon for the first time in a year or two. Find myself in Jita. Decided before I fly out down to my assets IGÇÖd load up a frigate with something for a return (region trading). Undock, insta popped. IGÇÖve been back a whole 5mins.

Ok, I really canGÇÖt blame anyone but myself on that one. I should of tanked it and choose a better hull if I was going to be moving something of decent value, plus had a insta undock bookmark set.

Next I jump in my freighter and IGÇÖm moving a bit of trit down a high sec pipeline, while aligning an attempt was made by a fleet to gank me. I managed to get out with 15% structure. Thankfully they didnGÇÖt have enough DPS before concord showed up. The next 30mins or so I spent repping the thing because it was 90m to repair it.

This point the freighter has no value to me anymore, I canGÇÖt move product. Quite a big hit to lose that. IGÇÖll reframe from trading and moving stuff and just use it for my needs. Not worth the risk. Which is a real shame, thatGÇÖs one of the things I enjoy doing and was looking forward too. So I sold it and decided to stick with just transport ships, which I have max skill for. Sure IGÇÖll have to take a bunch of extra trips. But least survivalbity is greatly improved. Mean time perhaps IGÇÖll another use for this guy.

Last night I was moving stuff one jump out in low sec for one of my other toons. Like I often did in the past. I never warp directly to station if I canGÇÖt D-scan the station first. In this case I could see the station from the gate. All clear, cool. After I warped (cloaked) , a ship undocked at the station. Not something I can really control. Least I do have a bit of a shield tank fitted,nice resists. I land, my ship decloakGÇÖs naturally. Insta popped before docking request completed.

Reflecting back, in the short time IGÇÖve been back things havenGÇÖt been going so well for me. While hauling something in a frigate was a stupid on my part. The rest of my experience thus far was things out of my control. To the point I canGÇÖt even haul something in any configuration I can currently fly (Frig, hauler, Transport, Freighter).

Appreciate advice on the GÇ£how toGÇ¥ of EVE today to perform the following
Moving something from hisec to hisec
Moving something from hisec to low sec.
Ship types and or fits would be appreciated. I assume any type of hauler is out. My guess is T3 cruiser is the way to move things around now x 4000 trips?

Thanks

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He didn't say he was new at all, did he?

Also, I'm curious to know how often you get cargoes that will fit in a freighter, but not in an orca, but still be under 1bn isk.