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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.14 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Boonaki on 14/04/2006 09:37:00
 Originally by: Fogy
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Switch roles, your in BoB and I'm in VC.
I have to say I wouldn't fight BoB, what's the point? I couldn't disrupt any of their ops, I couldn't do any significant damage to them. I would get camped for hours at a time with no hope of fighting back.
I would assume D2 alliance is forming up for a massive assault on BoB, if I wanted to do real damage I would join them (if it turned out to be true) I would get all the alliance rejects that have fought BoB and failed. VC, IMP, FA, SA, PA fragments, etc. I would also approuch the other alliances that are hostile twords BoB, TS, SE, whatever G is becomming, the new ERA, etc.
I would form a massive fleet that would rivel the Siege of EC and take it straight to NOL-M9. I would bubble camp the hell out of them, take the station after a week or so. Put up a large POS on every moon possible. I would then move to the BoB outpost and take it. After that I would clean up as many BoB POS's and anywhere BoB is holding out. Force them back to empire.
There would be 100's of battleships lost on each side, and probably many capital ship losses on both sides. Who would win? Who knows, whoever is willing to lose the most I would guess. Every member of both sides would have to be willing to lose every last ship they had, use every last ISK for the fight.
This wouldn't work because I'm not a strong leader, but if there was one out there that had the respect of many, and the leadership to create such a taskforce. It would be remembered until the universe implodes (god unplugs the galaxy).
*edit* Prob would never work anyways, to many ego's, to many would want to be part of the leadership, to many people wouldn't follow orders. But hey, it'd be fun trying.
Statement of fact...
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dabster
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Posted - 2006.04.14 09:43:00 -
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Your siggy makes you look like a stupid 11 year old Boonaki ya know 
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King Leonidas
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Posted - 2006.04.14 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: King Leonidas on 14/04/2006 09:51:20
Originally by: Fogy
post it clearly shows BoB official spokesmen can not meet Pugwashs demands for a 30 vs 30 fight. and therefor there will never be a 30 vs 30 fight. BoB Backed down.
And if you read above I said we would say any bs you want us to say to get that 30 vs 30.
So like, let's get it on.
What are you hesitating for? Get onto Pugwash and get him to agree to it because there is no reason for you not to do this.
Unless Pugwash is willing to concede that you are an insignificant alliance who have no ability to do anything in this game except play hide and seek.
King
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.14 10:12:00 -
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Edited by: Boonaki on 14/04/2006 10:13:34
Originally by: dabster
Your siggy makes you look like a stupid 11 year old Boonaki ya know
Eh, I've never had a nice sig.
The reasoning behind the sig is I can't afk travel through empire with the MGRL war, soon as I hit 0.0 in delve, I can AFK travel in a hauler from empire to NOL, full expanders, and be just fine, VC had been/is camping the route. That's the point I'm trying to make.
Statement of fact...
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.04.14 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Chris
Originally by: Nifel
Seeing as how the truth about the PA eventually came out it's gonna be interesting to see how VC pilots react when Pugwash tells them they've been lied to.
Oh wait... that'd require a spine to publically admit that.
What lie is that exactly?
That you make a difference. Think that about covers it.
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago."
RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Jata |
Fogy
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Posted - 2006.04.14 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Chris
Originally by: Nifel
Seeing as how the truth about the PA eventually came out it's gonna be interesting to see how VC pilots react when Pugwash tells them they've been lied to.
Oh wait... that'd require a spine to publically admit that.
What lie is that exactly?
That you make a difference. Think that about covers it.
Think your siggie cinda sais it all!
Whens your 16th birthday? 
"From my rotting boddy flowers shall grow and I am in them, and that is eternity"
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.04.14 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Fogy
Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Chris
Originally by: Nifel
Seeing as how the truth about the PA eventually came out it's gonna be interesting to see how VC pilots react when Pugwash tells them they've been lied to.
Oh wait... that'd require a spine to publically admit that.
What lie is that exactly?
That you make a difference. Think that about covers it.
Think your siggie cinda sais it all!
Whens your 16th birthday?
What is this sig you're talking about?
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago."
RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Jata |
Coug
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Posted - 2006.04.14 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
Switch roles, your in BoB and I'm in VC.
I have to say I wouldn't fight BoB, what's the point? I couldn't disrupt any of their ops, I couldn't do any significant damage to them. I would get camped for hours at a time with no hope of fighting back.
This is the first time I've seen a BoB member approach understanding us. For all the vitrol on the boards from Pugwash, and the general dislike our members have for the attitude and unsportsmanlike conduct you have towards us, we know we can't compete on the level that BoB competes at. Everyone knows this. Rhetoric may fly, but we kill whoever we want. Currently, we are having alot of fun killing TRIBE. I'd go so far as to say they are our primary targets at the moment, and are much more of our level of competition.
Our guys in Aridia and Fountain had a very successful campaign against Xelas. It wasn't against BoB - even if forum rhetoric ran rampant.
If BoB and VC cross in a situation we know we cannot compete in, we aren't going to play that hand. BoB's clearing of VC POS in Fountain was such an occasion, we conceded that loss. We knew the risks of putting them up, and it was an acceptable operating cost.
I will publically and openly admit that VC cannot compete with BoB at the same level. Sure we have pilots that could go toe to toe with pilots in BoB: you aren't better people than us, just a better at territorial control and fleet operations. Regardless of individual opinions, VC does not even try to compete at BoB's level.
This costs us respect in many pilots eyes, and I suppose that is to be expected. However, who is to say that we aren't working on internal issues to get to the level that we feel we are ready to compete with BoB? TRIBE is merely a playground for us to start working on bigger wing/fleet tactics. Reformation and Shiva are both merged corporations to make us more effective and have speed bumps in ramping up operations. We will bring it when we are ready, and right now we cannot challenge BoB on our own, so we don't. We conciously choose to not.
That isn't to say we won't kill any of ya we come across mind you, but ya we have a very healthy respect for the zerg you guys maintain.
I'm sure I've made some political fopahs (sp?) in this post, as I wrote it with my personal hat on, and that's fine. Fighting BoB is a long term goal of ours, not a short one. We know we have no effect in the big picture on BoB's daily operations, and we are okay with that because of our long term viewpoint. We are working on things that we know we need to work on to eventually take BoB on, if we still feel the need when we are ready.
In the mean time, we are going to fight who we want to fight when we can, and run if we need to /shrug. VC doesn't control what people say on the forums, and Pugwash enjoys hating BoB and posting as such. Unlike other figure heads, Pugwash's posts aren't necessarily indicative of operational priorities 
I said something of the effect in the creation post of VC that I will reiterate now: We will fight you (general enemy reference) on our terms, as we want to, when we want to, without regard to what you think of it. (We will not exploit to do so, honor is personally important)
Right now our operational focus is on internal matters and having some really good fights with TRIBE. So I will concur with Myndpyre's statement: every day with every member we fight - or we don't. We don't matter to you, and you merely provide long term goals for us.
I wish there was a lot less hate on the boards, we aren't bad people, nor are you. There are some bad feelings, but that is to be expected I suppose. Don't presume to know us by our forum posters, and I will try and temper my dislike for the unsportsmanlike conduct of your forum posters in turn - as I'm sure that isn't what you are like.
/end stream of conciousness
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.04.14 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Coug
I will publically and openly admit that VC cannot compete with BoB at the same level. Sure we have pilots that could go toe to toe with pilots in BoB: you aren't better people than us, just a better at territorial control and fleet operations. Regardless of individual opinions, VC does not even try to compete at BoB's level.
This costs us respect in many pilots eyes, and I suppose that is to be expected.
Coug, that was a nice post but this is where you don't get it.
BoB respects anyone who tries hard to fight and anyone who does so in the manner that is smak-free and just plain fun.
BoB are smak'ers. This is true but I can assure you that 99% of the times it is the enemies who smak first, we simply continue non-stop from that point on.
I would point everyone at the war we had with fix. They ignored some stupid smak from our guys at the start and controlled their guys and lo and behold it was the most intense battles I've had in eve and was completely fun. They got our respect for this.
What we do not respect however, is an alliance who talks rubbish on the forums about how they are kicking our ass non-stop and doing major damage to us when it simply isn't true.
That sort of talk does nothing except inflame the situation Coug.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Fogy
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Posted - 2006.04.14 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: Fogy on 14/04/2006 15:49:08
Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Fogy
Think your siggie cinda sais it all!
Whens your 16th birthday?
What is this sig you're talking about?
The green one.. with the text:
"it takes a big man to cry,
but it takes a bigger man
to laugh at that man"
"From my rotting boddy flowers shall grow and I am in them, and that is eternity"
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.04.14 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Fogy
Edited by: Fogy on 14/04/2006 15:49:08
Originally by: Nifel
Originally by: Fogy
Think your siggie cinda sais it all!
Whens your 16th birthday?
What is this sig you're talking about?
The green one.. with the text:
"it takes a big man to cry,
but it takes a bigger man
to laugh at that man"
I don't quite follow what you mean . I'm talking to a crazy person? Your eyes are going all over the place...
*Nifel edges away from the camera
Bye...
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago."
RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Jata |
OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2006.04.14 17:33:00 -
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Im pretty sure i posted in this thread,but as if by magic my posts just vanished.
GG isd GG
Technolisa>those yellow things work better than platinum insurance :P |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.04.14 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: OVERCOPES 1
Im pretty sure i posted in this thread,but as if by magic my posts just vanished.
GG isd GG
Stopping coming onto Galnet channels drunk
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=318889&page=3
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Orree
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Posted - 2006.04.14 20:01:00 -
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What an utter abortion of a thread this is. I'm embarrassed for everyone involved.
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Global Killer
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Posted - 2006.04.14 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Global Killer on 14/04/2006 21:58:20
on this page (6) i can see good things, Boonaki and coug, ty for both posting something realistic and smack or bull**** free, even if facts don't put us in a good position it was fun to finally read some clear and true passages. more of this please.
ty, GK
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Baun
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Posted - 2006.04.15 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: OVERCOPES 1
Im pretty sure i posted in this thread,but as if by magic my posts just vanished.
GG isd GG
Stopping coming onto Galnet channels drunk
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=318889&page=3
dbp
Overcopes drunk?
never
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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maagdelijk
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Posted - 2006.04.15 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: maagdelijk on 15/04/2006 11:42:58
Plz contact me ingame for a - standing.
A + standing would take away some fun out off the game since you guys must be rich now after all those BOB lootcans.
Oh if you could mail me the list off paying ones 
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Travling
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Posted - 2006.04.23 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Coug
Vertigo Coalition has maintained a fairly black and grey diplomatic stance in recent times; if you didnĈt shoot BoB, we shot you, and if you did shoot BoB, well weĈd think about not shooting you.
Due to the recent diplomatic snowglobe shake up from BoB, Vertigo Coalition wanted to extend the offer for all hostile entities to open up communications with us if they wish to purchase blue standings from us.
Authorized contacts for any interested parties are:
Coug
Blade Gunner
so first u start to gate camp now u are makeing an attempt at makeing ppl buy standings from u. I guess that is what happens when u are in an alliance that is run buy a former pirate. Bah hope u like the war dec
Cheers Trav
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2006.04.27 15:07:00 -
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so first u start to gate camp now u are makeing an attempt at makeing ppl buy standings from u. I guess that is what happens when u are in an alliance that is run buy a former pirate. Bah hope u like the war dec
Better to be run by a pirate than to watch a "friend" become a turncoat and go play for the team we are at most odds with, then whine that we are ganking him too much to his former CEO, and to think I respected you highly.
Back at ya Trav, the war dec is fine.
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Travling
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Posted - 2006.04.30 22:01:00 -
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Edited by: Travling on 30/04/2006 22:03:08
i dont complain to much about nothing the comment maid to robbie was in fun now y are u so defensive got something to hide and if u where my freind at anypoint u wouldent be mad that went to where i could have fun maybe to some ppl this isnt a game but a freind u are sopposed to support no matter what decision they make.
ohh forgot to add this point check the killboards and tell me who is getting owned
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2006.04.30 22:12:00 -
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I.....you.......them, omg, lol......you really.....nevermind.....
*goes to hug the train while its moving*
Originally by: KSUDruid
Or, you could actually think for yourself. VC are an entity that exist purely out of hatred for a single other entity. Regardless of the change of a neighbors political standings, All alliances of EVE have the power to think for themselves. Never ever let hatred or fear of someone else force you into making rash decisions, especially when it means allying yourself with a facist anti-progressive self-centered organization like VC.
All the Alliances of EVE heed my words. Listen for yourself to VC if you must, and you will be assured that their singular thinking and narrow vision is not a belief that should spread through the Solarsystems of this universe.
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Rak'Kabal Kain
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Posted - 2006.05.01 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: Rak''Kabal Kain on 01/05/2006 08:33:40
Originally by: Travling
Edited by: Travling on 30/04/2006 22:03:08
i dont complain to much about nothing the comment maid to robbie was in fun now y are u so defensive got something to hide and if u where my freind at anypoint u wouldent be mad that went to where i could have fun maybe to some ppl this isnt a game but a freind u are sopposed to support no matter what decision they make.
ohh forgot to add this point check the killboards and tell me who is getting owned
I fail to see how that comment was in fun, but i guess its not important.
In the end it all depend on what is fun at the end of the day. If you like flying with bob then hell who can say anything otherwise. Just like I like to fly thru empire and gank random PPL in low sec. And if I was not in Japan on a crap 64Ram WinMe PC id be gankin ppl right now. 
WinMe 4TL 
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