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Jacob Matar
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Posted - 2006.04.08 19:59:00 -
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This may be silly, but I've found it really odd that you find station designs of one race in sovereign space of another race. Such as Caldari stations in Amarr regions, or Gallente stations in Minmatar space. Is there a reason for this? Shouldn't station design be limited to who has control of the region?
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.08 20:00:00 -
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Shouldn't races be limited to piloting only their racial ship?
No?
Thought so. 
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Jacob Matar
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Posted - 2006.04.08 20:07:00 -
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That's a little different though... Why would the Minmatar Republic build a Gallente station in one of their star systems? You would imagine that a Minmatar station would be cheaper to build... And the Minmatar's don't seem to have a whole lot of ISK to throw around.
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.08 20:12:00 -
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Well, neither do tin-pot dictatorships, but that doesn't stop them from building their palaces and whatnot.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.04.08 20:12:00 -
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Maybe it's some sort of diplomatic thing? 
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.04.08 20:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Wrangler
Maybe it's some sort of diplomatic thing?
I was thinking that... after all, the UK has US air-force bases (and so on).
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Alekzander
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Posted - 2006.04.08 20:16:00 -
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Or the caldari have bases in amarr? We do have a lot of mega corps that like to spread their weight around...
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Jacob Matar
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Posted - 2006.04.08 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Matar on 08/04/2006 20:19:10
Originally by: Raven Aure
I was thinking that... after all, the UK has US air-force bases (and so on).
But does the UK have US Air Force bases that are run and staffed by UK personnel? Even when the station designs don't fit in EVE, it is still being managed by a corporation from the race which has sovereignty over the region.
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Eternal Fury
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Posted - 2006.04.08 21:27:00 -
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If you went to another planet, wouldnt' you build a house that was comfortable to you? Maybe they are trade stations that were built by the other race for some reason. It seems quite logical that a caldari company in amar space would build a caldari station. They'd be more comfortable in it.
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supply is greater then demand = low price.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.08 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Maybe it's some sort of diplomatic thing?
Like some sort of.. alliance, perhaps?
It's basically going to come to blows - The Gallente-Minmatar alliance versus the Amarr-Caldari alliance.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.08 21:35:00 -
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I thought the corps always had their faction's designs.
And corps have offices in other states, just like companies have offices in other countries in real life
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.04.08 22:39:00 -
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So you're saying that in the WHOLE of the UK, there are no buildings that were designed by say, the Germans? or an American? and in Austria, I suppose there are no buildings of German design.
Yes, all the buildings in the world are only designed by people who live there...
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Smagd
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Posted - 2006.04.08 22:39:00 -
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What's more funny is seeing Minmatar Republic Fleet officials sitting outside Imperial Armaments Factories in deep Minmatar space, in Typhoons and all.
Makes you wonder exactly WHAT they're doing there. Station camping? Hmm but no, they don't really shoot anything undocking.
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Shiner BockBeer
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:29:00 -
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I'm waiting for full-on faction warfare..
Will the Republic be sending fleets to Empire stations in Molden Heath for big NPC on NPC action?
Won't that be cool.
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shiner BockBeer
I'm waiting for full-on faction warfare..
Will the Republic be sending fleets to Empire stations in Molden Heath for big NPC on NPC action?
Won't that be cool.
Conquerable NPC stations would be kind of cool.
Destroyable NPC stations even better. 
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Zephyr Mallory
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:49:00 -
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destroyable NPC stations hmm.. OH GOD NOT MY CORP HANGAR!
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyr Mallory
destroyable NPC stations hmm.. OH GOD NOT MY CORP HANGAR!
The inevitable destruction of Jita and Oursaleurt is worth the risk!
Well, okay, maybe not. 
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Jacob Matar
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Matar on 11/04/2006 06:35:18
Originally by: Sensor Error
So you're saying that in the WHOLE of the UK, there are no buildings that were designed by say, the Germans? or an American? and in Austria, I suppose there are no buildings of German design.
Of course when it comes to private housing anything can go...
But things like starbases and space stations aren't the sort of project that just anyone can put together. They would be built by a megacorp/government.
This would be like the military of any country on Earth randomly building exact copies of other countries' naval, armour, or aircraft designs for no reason in particular. Sure, some countries make certain things better, but it just doesn't make any sense...
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Eresmus
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:59:00 -
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Keep in mind a few things...
1) The minmatar (and others races) borders have not always been where they are now. So mix and matches of stations along the borders of the empires are logical.
2) Not all stations are built by the central governing body of the given empire. NPC companies (especially those from other empires) may chose to pick a different design for their space station which may not fit into the local empire's design.
3) Diplomacy, attempt to sooth relations between empires.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:59:00 -
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Corporations build the stations in their home design.
The empires used to have different areas covered in the past.
Look at this:
Joint Harvesting (Amarr).
They're slavers. I'd be embarrassed to see them haul the slaves around in Minmatar ships between Minmatar stations in Minmatar space.
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Jacob Matar
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Posted - 2006.04.11 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
Corporations build the stations in their home design.
The empires used to have different areas covered in the past.
Look at this:
Joint Harvesting (Amarr).
They're slavers. I'd be embarrassed to see them haul the slaves around in Minmatar ships between Minmatar stations in Minmatar space.
True... I'm not quite sure where the lines used to be drawn. I'll have to look into that.
Still, I find it weird that (this is regarding stations only) you can go from Minmatar, to Caldari, to Gallente, to Minmatar, to Minmatar again, and then Caldari while in the same region. I'm just saying...
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Teles666
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Posted - 2006.04.11 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Teles666 on 11/04/2006 07:47:03
This is a time of relative peace in the eve universe, like your time on earth you expect borders to remain the same and probably don't think of a time when borders moved daily.
Truth is your probably living in an area of space where tens of millions gave their lives in a fruitless war. Clearly the people who built those 'out of place' stations lost.
Also, bear in mind the way expansion happened in the early days - sub light ships spending hundreds of years travelling to a distant star - it's quite possible that one empire went up one path of close systems while another empire went the other way. Only once the empires knew of each other would gates between these systems be opened up.
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