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bornaa
GRiD.
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Posted - 2011.11.10 12:50:00 -
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I cant check this out because i am at work... but i saw this amazing post on Test Server Feedback sub-forum:
Joelleaveek wrote:Title says it all. it seems that now when you disconnect weather intentionally or not, your drones will return to bay before your ship warps off.  Fan-*******-tastic. Keep it up! |
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.11.10 12:53:00 -
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 secret nurf that keeps caps on field longer before they start log off timer
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2011.11.10 12:54:00 -
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i hope it's true |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:13:00 -
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Interesting...
I'm very curious to see if it works as worded, or the drones just magically reappear in your drone bay.
If your ship does not warp until the drones fly back, I see many issues:
1) If the drones must cover large distances, your ship will not warp for a long time.
2) To tackle a logoffski pilot, simply tackle his drones and prevent them from returning.
3) A ship with sentry drones out will never warp if he's not in scoop range.
Does it apply to fighters and fighter bombers? Tackling and killing those is a fun way to punish docking ring hot droppers for thinking they're pro. If all they have to do is logoffski to get them back magically, that would suck, and if it prevents them from e-warping when they do log off, it would suck for them.
While I'm a heavy drone user and would prefer not to see my precious little ******** DPS machines get lost, I'd much rather lose them than my ship and think this change leaves a lot of questions to answer.
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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:18:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Interesting...
I'm very curious to see if it works as worded, or the drones just magically reappear in your drone bay.
If your ship does not warp until the drones fly back, I see many issues:
1) If the drones must cover large distances, your ship will not warp for a long time.
2) To tackle a logoffski pilot, simply tackle his drones and prevent them from returning.
3) A ship with sentry drones out will never warp if he's not in scoop range.
Does it apply to fighters and fighter bombers? Tackling and killing those is a fun way to punish docking ring hot droppers for thinking they're pro. If all they have to do is logoffski to get them back magically, that would suck, and if it prevents them from e-warping when they do log off, it would suck for them.
While I'm a heavy drone user and would prefer not to see my precious little ******** DPS machines get lost, I'd much rather lose them than my ship and think this change leaves a lot of questions to answer.
The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones.
The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master 
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:22:00 -
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Logic?
Usability?
Convenience?
Implementation?
What has CCP become!
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Daedalus Arcova
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:23:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones. The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master
Even the Devs double-post. Fix the forums, CCP.
If drones are sufficiently complex AI to attempt to return to a ship before it e-warps, shouldn't they also be sufficiently complex for pilots to reconnect to them if the connection between ship and drone is lost?
Drones have complex AIs, yet you cannot reconnect to them.
Probes are just probes, yet you can reconnect to them. |
gfldex
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:27:00 -
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Confirmed for build 312067. They don't return but magicly jump into your drone bay on disconnect as long as they are on the same grid. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:36:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones. The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master
Fantastic, thank you :)
Any chance sentry drones will stop clearing their aggro or command list and picking their own targets too?
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Xantor Bludberry
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:46:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones. The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master
May i`ll be worship you??? |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:01:00 -
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Wait. I thought we, the players, were CCP's Mortal Enemies, and vice versa? Why are they suddenly being nice to us after all these years? I smell a rat. CCP's owners are adding shiny to Eve in order to boost the sale price of Eve to Blizzard, aren't they?
We'll know a Blizzard buyout is imminent when CQ gets a group hug animation.
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:15:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master
It would also make sense if you could reconnect to lost drones once you reappear on grid.
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De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:18:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones. The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Fantastic, thank you :) Any chance sentry drones will stop clearing their aggro or command list and picking their own targets too?
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:24:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:CCP Guard wrote:It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master It would also make sense if you could reconnect to lost drones once you reappear on grid.
In that case it would also make sense, that anyone could remotely take control of abandoned drones within their drone control range and with drone and drone bandwidth limitations in mind. Callously abandoned drones propably have no loyalty, so I don't see why not allow anyone to take control of them. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:16:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones. The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master
Could this behavior be extended to any time the user warps off? Hundreds of forgotten drones would thank you! |
bornaa
GRiD.
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:43:00 -
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khm... khm...
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:44:00 -
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Looks like they're working through the thousand papercut thread with a bunch of teams, or something. They're really doing their best to address all the small annoyances that were kept unfixed for far too long. Consider me pleased.
On topic: It's a stealth buff to sentry drones, they will almost always make it back.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:47:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:CCP Guard wrote:The way it's supposed to work is that the drones do their best to make it back before the ship emergency warps, if they are too far away or being webbed by crafty enemies, they'll simply get left behind. Ships won't postpone emergency warp to wait for drones. The change isn't intended to save all drones but to decrease the number of annoying drone losses. It sort of makes sense that machines as complex as these would have sufficient AI to attempt to stick with their master Fantastic, thank you :) Any chance sentry drones will stop clearing their aggro or command list and picking their own targets too?
What part of "sufficient AI" wasn't a big enough hint?
DONT TRUST THOSE DRONES
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:53:00 -
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Upsides:
- Fewer lost drones because your network connection decided to throw a fit
- No need to slow-boat around to retrieve drones after a disconnect
Downsides:
- Less sales for drones
As long as it's not a perfect process (i.e. there's still a chance of drones getting left behind), I'm mostly okay with it. |
Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:03:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Looks like they're working through the thousand papercut thread with a bunch of teams, or something. They're really doing their best to address all the small annoyances that were kept unfixed for far too long. Consider me pleased.
On topic: It's a stealth buff to sentry drones, they will almost always make it back.
this does very little for sentries unfortunately. it's got a small application in pvp when you have to warp off, and when you warp back you will reconnect (if no one scooped them in the meantime). in pvp people dont tend to shoot sentries.
this change is mostly useful for mission runners who get disconnected.
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:08:00 -
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mission runner ship with sentry drones out gets a disconnect, dies to frigates because the sentries cant return to ship
i love this change |
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
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Posted - 2011.11.10 17:23:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:mission runner ship with sentry drones out gets a disconnect, dies to frigates because the sentries cant return to ship
i love this change
If ships will not wait for their drones if the drones can't make it in time for the emergency warpout, how will having sentries out cause the ship to die?
Color me confused by your sarcasm here, it seems misplaced. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2011.11.10 17:52:00 -
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Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:mission runner ship with sentry drones out gets a disconnect, dies to frigates because the sentries cant return to ship
i love this change If ships will not wait for their drones if the drones can't make it in time for the emergency warpout, how will having sentries out cause the ship to die? Color me confused by your sarcasm here, it seems misplaced.
He blew his wad too early and didn't read the whole thread or the CCP reply. It happens sometimes, it's perfectly normal they say.
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CCP Soulblighter
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.10 18:58:00 -
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I encourage everyone to poke into this Test Server Feedback thread as I've been fielding questions about the feature over there |
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Orlacc
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.10 19:05:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:mission runner ship with sentry drones out gets a disconnect, dies to frigates because the sentries cant return to ship
i love this change
Huh?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
109
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Posted - 2011.11.10 19:06:00 -
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Those of us who use drone modules and rigs to extend the drone engagement range to such extent that the drones have to send a postcard to let us know they are still around will not benefit from this.
But it's a fantastic feature. I think miners and those who like to stay close on their own sentry drones will derive the most benefit from this.
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Lili Lu
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Posted - 2011.11.10 19:11:00 -
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Or maybe they have replaced the cats with dogs, as the pilots for the drones? Btw, what is this AI of which you speak? o.0 |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.11.10 19:16:00 -
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But...but, I consider scooping abandoned drones from the field of honor my just reward for not being one of the logoffkies.
Good for missioners, though, I suppose.
Overall a wise and just decision by CCP and one that many have been asking for for years.
Mr Epeen 
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Noriko Mai
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Posted - 2011.11.10 19:41:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:Or maybe they have replaced the cats with dogs, as the pilots for the drones? Btw, what is this AI of which you speak? o.0
Where the hell have you got your headphone from? I want one as well. |
Lili Lu
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Posted - 2011.11.10 19:50:00 -
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It was in the Nex store. You probably don't have enough RL currency for it :P
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Ok, actually it's a free Princess Leia hairstyle in the character customization. Shhhh |
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