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ImmortaL ZoorZ	Posted - 2006.04.09 02:11:00 - [1] Hi What would be the point of risking a Titan when nothing in the eve universe is worth more than it? If its resources then why havent bob or some other massive allaince owned that region for so long etc etc....? thx yar
JamesTalon	Posted - 2006.04.09 02:16:00 - [2] Titans are mobile bases, in essence, and they can move an entire fleet into a system without a gate, so that makes them important right there. Plus the super weapon is nice as well.
Raven Aure	Posted - 2006.04.09 02:30:00 - [3] Originally by: JamesTalon Plus the super weapon is nice as well. Quote of the year right there. ______________________ "Ahh, Raven Aure. Your reputation precedes you." "Uh oh. Which one?" Originally by: Density5 brb gotta sleep
ImmortaL ZoorZ	Posted - 2006.04.09 02:37:00 - [4] Originally by: Raven Aure Originally by: JamesTalon Plus the super weapon is nice as well. Quote of the year right there. Can you pass over there stats, a link maybe?
Constantinee	Posted - 2006.04.09 03:05:00 - [5] the role oif a titan Step 1 fleet docks in it step 2 fleet fits in it step 3 titan warps into enemy fleet step 4 titan activates superweapon step 5 fleet undocks and kills what left step 6 go home
Nefera Sen	Posted - 2006.04.09 03:16:00 - [6] Edited by: Nefera Sen on 09/04/2006 03:17:03 damn to slow
Cabadrin	Posted - 2006.04.09 03:16:00 - [7] Originally by: Constantinee the role oif a titan Step 1 fleet docks in it step 2 fleet fits in it step 3 titan warps into enemy fleet step 4 titan activates superweapon step 5 fleet undocks and kills what left step 6 go home Ships can't dock in a titan. Instead, you get your fleet within 5km of the Titan. Titan jumps your fleet through to the cyno field, fleet runs off immediately to do some evil stuff, titan BBQs the enemy fleet once you pop a cyno field near them. Ships must be within 5km of a titan to jump with it. In addition, refitting or using new ships from a titan is just like using corp hanger arrays or carriers. You never dock. _______________________________________________
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.04.09 03:25:00 - [8] Originally by: ImmortaL ZoorZ Hi What would be the point of risking a Titan when nothing in the eve universe is worth more than it? If its resources then why havent bob or some other massive allaince owned that region for so long etc etc....? thx yar TBH, nobody will ever 'risk' a Titan. The Titan will sit cloaked at a safespot, probably with a few high-powered guards cloaked along with it, and it will have most liekly either blasted the enemy fleet withits weapon via a cyno field, or it'll be saving the use of it incase he's found out. At any rate, it will sit at a safespot, staying cloaked as much as possible, giving the fleet it's utterly isane gang bonuses, and letting the freshly podded pilots clonejump back into the battle. Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Constantinee	Posted - 2006.04.09 03:41:00 - [9] Originally by: Cabadrin Originally by: Constantinee the role oif a titan Step 1 fleet docks in it step 2 fleet fits in it step 3 titan warps into enemy fleet step 4 titan activates superweapon step 5 fleet undocks and kills what left step 6 go home Ships can't dock in a titan. Instead, you get your fleet within 5km of the Titan. Titan jumps your fleet through to the cyno field, fleet runs off immediately to do some evil stuff, titan BBQs the enemy fleet once you pop a cyno field near them. Ships must be within 5km of a titan to jump with it. In addition, refitting or using new ships from a titan is just like using corp hanger arrays or carriers. You never dock. WHAT! u cant dock in a titan i thought u could or is that the mothership u can dock in
F'nog	Posted - 2006.04.09 03:50:00 - [10] Originally by: Constantinee Originally by: Cabadrin Originally by: Constantinee the role oif a titan Step 1 fleet docks in it step 2 fleet fits in it step 3 titan warps into enemy fleet step 4 titan activates superweapon step 5 fleet undocks and kills what left step 6 go home Ships can't dock in a titan. Instead, you get your fleet within 5km of the Titan. Titan jumps your fleet through to the cyno field, fleet runs off immediately to do some evil stuff, titan BBQs the enemy fleet once you pop a cyno field near them. Ships must be within 5km of a titan to jump with it. In addition, refitting or using new ships from a titan is just like using corp hanger arrays or carriers. You never dock. WHAT! u cant dock in a titan i thought u could or is that the mothership u can dock in You can't dock in either, not like in a starbase. You can put ships in the ship bay and clone jump to them, then get into the ship (I assume after launching in your pod), and fit it out as needed for the situation. Originally by: Bl4zer But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2006.04.09 03:51:00 - [11] We need Titans. How else is anyone going to grief Jita?
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2006.04.09 04:06:00 - [12] Too bad you can't get a Titan into Jita :) http://eve.klaki.net/
Raven Aure	Posted - 2006.04.09 04:07:00 - [13] Originally by: Cmdr Sy We need Titans. How else is anyone going to grief Jita? Ten thousand Ibises. ______________________ "Ahh, Raven Aure. Your reputation precedes you." "Uh oh. Which one?" Originally by: Density5 brb gotta sleep
Eternal Fury	Posted - 2006.04.09 05:49:00 - [14] A Titan is also the Ultimate faction ship, in that it's the one thing that most people want/fear. it's something that is going to be VERY rare. thing is, we probobly arent going to see one for a while. But I have a feeling, that the day you hear about one in game.. is going to be the day that more people are podded in then any other..I wanna go to whatever system JUST to watch it happen :) demand is greater then supply = high price. supply is greater then demand = low price.
Viktor Fyretracker	Posted - 2006.04.09 05:53:00 - [15] hopefully the first titan killed in EVE the killers save the last 2hp on its structure for an Ibis with a civilan rail. just because it would make the killmail funny as hell to see a titan with its deathblow delivered by an ibis.
ElCoCo	Posted - 2006.04.09 09:56:00 - [16] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia The Titan will sit cloaked at a safespot, probably with a few high-powered guards cloaked along with it That's sooo.... WoW man
Glassback	Posted - 2006.04.09 11:09:00 - [17] Originally by: ImmortaL ZoorZ Hi What would be the point of risking a Titan when nothing in the eve universe is worth more than it? If its resources then why havent bob or some other massive allaince owned that region for so long etc etc....? thx yar Fun? G. I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
So'Kar	Posted - 2006.04.09 12:01:00 - [18] Edited by: So''Kar on 09/04/2006 12:02:54 Originally by: Constantinee step 4 titan activates superweapon Then sudden lag will delay activation and titan is lost because of it. When I first heard about titans I imagined massive as station where players could dock. That it would take atleast day to destroy or capture one with big fleet. Something that would constanly show on map and whos owning it. Something that would claim system sov if parked there long enough without pos wars. When you look these stats, 70k armor 50k shield on amarr titan for example aint that much that it justify cost of these things. When some focus fire can make it pop pretty fast. They should have just made these tier3 carriers and add real titans later.
Akita T	Posted - 2006.04.09 13:07:00 - [19] I always wondered why (at least structure and armor, if not also shields) aren't directly related to size and/or materials used in construction... and have small ships "survability" against large ships be based only on the fact that they are fast and have a small signature, nothing else.
lofty29	Posted - 2006.04.09 13:09:00 - [20] Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker hopefully the first titan killed in EVE the killers save the last 2hp on its structure for an Ibis with a civilan rail. just because it would make the killmail funny as hell to see a titan with its deathblow delivered by an ibis. --------------------------- Originally by: Oveur I see boobies! \o/
digitalwanderer	Posted - 2006.04.09 14:59:00 - [21] i still say that not one of these will be built,as the minerals needed for building 7000+ capital ship parts is just mad for one,then turning those minerals into capital ship parts would take several weeks(about 7000 parts in total),then hauling no more than 3 at a time to a POS in an industrial,since freighters can't unload their cargo bays directly into the POS,which would also need a capital shipyard module to build it(about 2 billion on it's own),then when all those parts are in the POS,wait 8 weeks for the build to complete.... Not to mention that even when it's finally built,a Titan can't dock anywhere and the only place it can be relatively safe when the pilot logs off is inside the shield bubble of a POS...
Flipidy Floo	Posted - 2006.04.10 03:17:00 - [22] 1st and foremost, Leviathan with max shield mgt and lvl 4 titan in a gang has 105625 shield hit points with 0 mods on. 2nd, 7 citadel launchers and a superweapon. 3rd, only things that will do any real damage on it will be dreads..... dreads won't last forever verse 7 citadels with 2 damage mods from the titan. 4th, uber sheild hardening 5th, can't be webbed, jammed, or warp scrambled If a titan dies, the person flying it doesn't deserve it anyways, it is the ultimate capital ship.
Zungen	Posted - 2006.04.10 05:47:00 - [23] would you rather have the titan have 20million shield/armor, 10 million structure and no ability to tank or 70k shield/armor and ability to tank? :P
Corunna ElMan	Posted - 2006.04.10 05:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Constantinee step 4 titan activates superweapon You misspelled "Commence Primary Ignition" It's not that you're 'roleplaying a jerk'... it's a matter of typecasting.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.04.11 02:25:00 - [25] Originally by: Flipidy Floo 1st and foremost, Leviathan with max shield mgt and lvl 4 titan in a gang has 105625 shield hit points with 0 mods on. 2nd, 7 citadel launchers and a superweapon. 3rd, only things that will do any real damage on it will be dreads..... dreads won't last forever verse 7 citadels with 2 damage mods from the titan. They'll sit there in seigemode tanking it like nothing... The other 50 ships hitting the Dread will be another story. Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.04.11 03:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Constantinee the role oif a titan Step 1 fleet docks in it step 2 fleet fits in it step 3 titan warps into enemy fleet step 4 titan activates superweapon step 5 fleet undocks and kills what left step 6 go home Unfortunately, went over this on TS with someone earlier, it would go like this: 1: Fleet docks ships into titan. 2: Fleet is now outside titan in pods. 3: Titan activates superweapon. 4: Friendlies all get podkilled. Enemies lose their ships too though. -------- Shinra Director
Trepkos	Posted - 2006.04.11 04:47:00 - [27] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Constantinee the role oif a titan Step 1 fleet docks in it step 2 fleet fits in it step 3 titan warps into enemy fleet step 4 titan activates superweapon step 5 fleet undocks and kills what left step 6 go home Unfortunately, went over this on TS with someone earlier, it would go like this: 1: Fleet docks ships into titan. 2: Fleet is now outside titan in pods. 3: Titan activates superweapon. 4: Friendlies all get podkilled. Enemies lose their ships too though. 1: Fleet docks ships into titan. 2: Enemy Fleet logs off or jumps out. 3: EVE explodes. 4: Cows begin to feed on humans. -------- Angel Deep Corporation
Kular	Posted - 2006.04.11 05:33:00 - [28] I actual thought about this awhile back.. seeing as how a Titan is immune to all EW, no way to hold it down, only way to kill it would be have either A massive Fleet of Dreads 5x larger than what BoB used against the outpost hammer it before it could warp, or have Another Titan + a Dread Fleet do the same. Basically I don't see how any Titan could be killed in Eve as it has enough HP to either, A last long enough to cyno jump somewhere safe, or honestly just turn repairs/wards on then log-off. Try to kill a titan in 15 mins... don't forget it will warp out once it can align as well... So Titans are the ultimate weapon.. but how could you possibly kill one? www.AegisMilitia.com For God, Empire, and Sarum!
Fuujin	Posted - 2006.04.11 08:08:00 - [29] It's not immune to warp bubbles. _______________ The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
Synex	Posted - 2006.04.11 08:12:00 - [30] Originally by: Kular I actual thought about this awhile back.. seeing as how a Titan is immune to all EW, no way to hold it down, only way to kill it would be have either A massive Fleet of Dreads 5x larger than what BoB used against the outpost hammer it before it could warp, or have Another Titan + a Dread Fleet do the same. Basically I don't see how any Titan could be killed in Eve as it has enough HP to either, A last long enough to cyno jump somewhere safe, or honestly just turn repairs/wards on then log-off. Try to kill a titan in 15 mins... don't forget it will warp out once it can align as well... So Titans are the ultimate weapon.. but how could you possibly kill one? Just shoot it with lots of light missiles, its bound to bounce around.

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