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Wraith Killer	Posted - 2006.04.09 02:31:00 - [1] Edited by: Wraith Killer on 09/04/2006 02:36:07 Edited by: Wraith Killer on 09/04/2006 02:35:17 I need a decent mission/PVP outfit for my mach if anyone can help me it would be much appreciated. I dont really have the money to spend on the named stuff and my skills are decent where turrets and battleships Gallente/Minmitar are concerned. I have 3 1200's and 3 D 650's for turrets and two heavy nos in the highes meds are 1 v-15 braced multi spec invul x-5 prototype webby viseoclastic em ward salburity 1 X-Large CL-5 emergency overload large f-s9 regolith shield induction on the lows I got, 1 large accomodation vestment reconstruct 2 pdu I's 1energizede adaptive nano mem. 1 gyrostab 1 co- processor I, 1 1600 rolled tungsten plate It does ok but this ship seems like it could do alot better. Any advice would be appreciated, Thank you.
Tanis Sundowner	Posted - 2006.04.09 02:45:00 - [2] No offense but that looks like a horrible setup. First decide whether you want long range(arty's) or short range(AC) don't mix in match. With your setup of 3 1200 and 3 650 half of your guns will be out of action. At long range your 650's wont hit anything and at short range the 1200 won't beable to hit much becasue of their tracking even with a webby. Second don't armor and shield tank at the same time decide which you want to do. I recommned drop the armor rep and armor resists and 1600mm plate and replace them with gyrostabs.
Don Elmus	Posted - 2006.04.09 11:28:00 - [3] Don't do anything in a Machariel - it is for the looks only :O)
NateX	Posted - 2006.04.09 11:36:00 - [4] Originally by: Wraith Killer Edited by: Wraith Killer on 09/04/2006 02:36:07 Edited by: Wraith Killer on 09/04/2006 02:35:17 I need a decent mission/PVP outfit for my mach if anyone can help me it would be much appreciated. I dont really have the money to spend on the named stuff and my skills are decent where turrets and battleships Gallente/Minmitar are concerned. I have 3 1200's and 3 D 650's for turrets and two heavy nos in the highes meds are 1 v-15 braced multi spec invul x-5 prototype webby viseoclastic em ward salburity 1 X-Large CL-5 emergency overload large f-s9 regolith shield induction on the lows I got, 1 large accomodation vestment reconstruct 2 pdu I's 1energizede adaptive nano mem. 1 gyrostab 1 co- processor I, 1 1600 rolled tungsten plate It does ok but this ship seems like it could do alot better. Any advice would be appreciated, Thank you. you must be a joke "Signatures is for n00bs".. lol
Copine Callmeknau	Posted - 2006.04.09 11:37:00 - [5] IBKR (In before kilROCK) ------- With five million sheep in this army I seem to be the only one fit to command
DeadRow	Posted - 2006.04.09 11:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Copine Callmeknau IBKR (In before kilROCK) Originally by: Eris Discordia TAKE COVER, HIDE YOUR SIGNATURE
babylonstew	Posted - 2006.04.09 11:40:00 - [7] Killrock incoming in 5.4.3.2........... X13 - We will win EVE
KilROCK	Posted - 2006.04.09 11:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Copine Callmeknau IBKR (In before kilROCK) Ah, Blind man did mention this on teamspeak lastnight and i was wondering what he meant. All i said was omfg I don't flame topics about it anymore. Just use common sense and fit it the way it should be fitted, like a pimped out tempest. Oh, if you fly tempest with 3 1200mm Artillery and dual 650mm autocannons, please. Visit Passari and give me your tempest. Originally by: KilROCK I make sigs, evemail me if interested.
hellwarrior	Posted - 2006.04.09 11:43:00 - [9] you're going to PVP in a mach, and you have to ask how to outfit it? lol cheap fitting suggestions.. first off, i'd fit 1400s, unless you're overall skills are for teh most part 5. XL, 2 x invul II, 1 x EM, 1 x amp 4 x diags, 3 x gyro IIs or something like that.... or drop an amp for injector, or something for a trackign cmputer if u have balls. 6 x 650mm II, 2 x dimi nos gist x type mwd, domi web, 2 x domination disruptor or scramblers, cap injector 2 x large armor rep, 3 x 22.5% nanos (at least or get corpum 44.5% passives), 2 x gyro IIs barrage, hail and EMP L. cap 800s..
hellwarrior	Posted - 2006.04.09 11:44:00 - [10] btw kilrock, i tossed those setups together i'm sure u could correct me on some of them, honestly no one should ask how to fit a mach... its like teh abso bpo owner asking how to fit the absolution >:\| it angers me, hey give me that bpo! SLAP dumb*****

KilROCK	Posted - 2006.04.09 11:46:00 - [11] Edited by: KilROCK on 09/04/2006 11:46:13 Well, The way my brain work is.. If you're going to fly a ship that is worth 5 tempest, At least tank it the way 5 tempest would tank all together.. So yea, I'm crazy expensive tank. Not semi tank/ganka. offtopic. EOS > Absolution Originally by: KilROCK I make sigs, evemail me if interested.
Nahia Senne	Posted - 2006.04.09 12:32:00 - [12] considering OP's level of expirience, i would also suggest 2 WCS
Commander Nikolas	Posted - 2006.04.09 13:45:00 - [13] Personally I use mine for PvP, I use my Vindicator with 425 Snipe set-up for complexing. I also very much like the extra low slot for a heavy armor tank (if it was a Fleet Issue Tempest I would shield tank it). Highs: 6x 425 AutoCannons, 2x Heavy NOS Mids: 1x 100mn AB, 1x 20km Scram, 1x Web, 1x ECCM, 1x Heavy Cap Injector Lows: 2x Large Rep, 1x Gyro Stab, 3x Active Hardeners (Kin, Exp, Therm), 1x Damage Control Depending on your skills and ISK you will need/want to use named/faction gear to make this all fit. I like the Mach for PvP because it is naturally a fast battleship and it has a unique model. From personal experience even seasoned PvPers get caught off gaurd by the Mach warping in/appearing. I have had people in PvP fitted battleships just lay down and die without returning fire (even though there was ovbiously no escape other then fighting) and been petitioned for using a "dev ship" (lol). Hope this helps
Krulla	Posted - 2006.04.09 13:53:00 - [14] Three 1200s? Three 650s? How do people like this manange to get their hands on machariels in the first place? Respect the Domi. Or else. SIG HIJACK!!11 RAWRR!!1- IMMY
Berrik Radhok	Posted - 2006.04.09 14:08:00 - [15] Originally by: Krulla Three 1200s? Three 650s? How do people like this manange to get their hands on machariels in the first place? Money is easier to make than it used to be :s Signature file size and dimensions to big, please keep it under 400x120 and 24000 bytes - Petwraith
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.04.09 14:09:00 - [16] Originally by: Krulla Three 1200s? Three 650s? How do people like this manange to get their hands on machariels in the first place? Their ships should be confiscated as they don't have licence to own them. Die, die, die.
R31D	Posted - 2006.04.09 15:38:00 - [17] Edited by: R31D on 09/04/2006 15:39:52 Originally by: Commander Nikolas Highs: 6x 425 AutoCannons, 2x Heavy NOS Mids: 1x 100mn MWD, 1x 20km Scram, 1x Web, 1x ECM, 1x Heavy Cap Injector Lows: 2x Large Rep, 1x Gyro Stab, 3x Active Hardeners (Kin, Exp, Therm), 1x Damage Control Edited it a bit for you . MWD will save you a lot and ECM will serve much better than an ECCM. I'd also probably fit 3x EANM2/2x EANM2, 1x Damage Control (instead of 3 hardeners and damage control) and then fit 2x Gyrostabs, but that's just me Free bumpage for all
Wraith Killer	Posted - 2006.04.10 13:44:00 - [18] For all you that had decent advice I really appreciate it for all the flamers, go f*** yourselves. I set my Mach to snipe. I pvp'd 3 in the late morning and killed them before they could even get within lock range. So i am a happy camper. changed the 1200's to six 1400 nothing in last two slots 3 gyros on lows and so on. Thanks all. Would like to get my hands on a Navy Raven I have flown one for a long time before the Mach and am more suited to missile boats, I aint billion isk rich but i do ok if you know what I mean so if anyone wants to do some horse trading I would be interested in the Navy Raven.
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.04.10 13:50:00 - [19] Originally by: Wraith Killer So i am a happy camper. changed the 1200's to six 1400 nothing in last two slots 3 gyros on lows and so on. Thanks all. Ouch 6x 1400mm's. Thats a MUCH better highslot loadout than your original post.
Sun Ra	Posted - 2006.04.10 14:08:00 - [20] Originally by: R31D Edited by: R31D on 09/04/2006 15:39:52 Originally by: Commander Nikolas Highs: 6x 425 AutoCannons, 2x Heavy NOS Mids: 1x 100mn MWD, 1x 20km Scram, 1x Web, 1x ECM, 1x Heavy Cap Injector Lows: 2x Large Rep, 1x Gyro Stab, 3x Active Hardeners (Kin, Exp, Therm), 1x Damage Control Edited it a bit for you . MWD will save you a lot and ECM will serve much better than an ECCM. I'd also probably fit 3x EANM2/2x EANM2, 1x Damage Control (instead of 3 hardeners and damage control) and then fit 2x Gyrostabs, but that's just me I attacked a mach once in my tempest, landed 35 km from it, so i mwd towards him, it mwd away from me and got 60km away from me pretty quickly so i gave up Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas'

Kurtz Weber	Posted - 2006.04.10 14:12:00 - [21] my mach: 6x dual 650's 2x large nos core x-type MWD dark blood cap injector domination web, scram tuvan's modified sensor booster core x-type large rep 3x centum a-type hardeners (kin,therm, exp) 1x corpum a-type adaptive nano membrane 2x domination gyro's
alty mcaltalot	Posted - 2006.04.10 14:31:00 - [22] Edited by: alty mcaltalot on 10/04/2006 14:33:09 Originally by: Kurtz Weber edit: i see a lot of people running ecm and eccm on their mach's here, if your going to do that, go get a fleet pest' instead ECM multispec is far more useful than that sensor booster of yours. anyway, begin with: 425mm AC II x 6 Heavy Dim Nos x 2 MWD II x 1 20k Scrambler x 1 Fleeting Web x 1 Hypnos or T2 Multispec x 1 Heavy Elec Cap Booster x 1 Large Rep II x 2 Gyrostab II x 2 55% True Sansha/Dark Blood Hardener x 3 (EXP, KIN and THE) (cpu issues with t2 hardeners) and then commence pimpage.
Sun Ra	Posted - 2006.04.10 14:33:00 - [23] Id never fly a cloe range bs without a cap inject.... Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas'
Chode Rizoum	Posted - 2006.04.10 15:09:00 - [24] iam getting tired of these tempest/Mach posts.. ôThe harder the battle, the sweeter the victory.ö
Sun Ra	Posted - 2006.04.10 15:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Chode Rizoum iam getting tired of these tempest/Mach posts.. Just cos u cant afford one But yeah www.eve-search.com is your friend, theres been plenty of resent topics on the subject Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas'
Wraith Killer	Posted - 2006.04.11 14:00:00 - [26] Hey Chode if you cant afford a mach I will give you the isk for one. I am free with my money like that.
Chode Rizoum	Posted - 2006.04.11 22:17:00 - [27] Originally by: Wraith Killer Hey Chode if you cant afford a mach I will give you the isk for one. I am free with my money like that. my wallet isent blinking yet ôThe harder the battle, the sweeter the victory.ö


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