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hired goon
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Posted - 2006.04.11 14:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Kurren
Remember, they didn't farm us to eat us. They farmed us in order to harness our energy and use it to power themselves. It's interesting, and highly likely.
Oh, yeah. It's soooo likely that machines would choose to engineer some elaborate irony whereby they use humans as batteries after we block out their solar power.
As opposed to, you know, just switching to wind / hydro-electric / geo-thermal / fusion / nuclear / fission 
Anyway I always liked the questions raised in the Outer Limits. Like... what if mankind fought some other entity in a war... only to realize that god is real... and is on their side!
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Winter Star
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Posted - 2006.04.11 14:48:00 -
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Except it doesn't work....unless I'm very much mistaken - nothing produces more energy than you put in. Not all the energy we ingest is given out as heat - therefore you're losing energy.
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2006.04.11 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: FooB2
anyway, theres all sorts of implications to consider with it. again, from the film, how do you choose who represents the earth in diplomacy?
Yeah, have you read the short story: "The man who sold the World" (Heinlien I think), about a con man who is conned by an alien into selling him the planet. Starts with the Brooklyn bridge and works up (bit like the Native Americans and their country). Turns out under Galactic Law, its a valid contract.
Like the idea of God being real and being on the other side. What do you do then? I read something not long ago in which the ancient Greeks are turned against their gods during the Trojan War. Greeks, Trojans and machine intelligences joined forces to attack the Gods. The book ends with Achilles inviting Zeus to surrender, following which the male gods will be killed but: "your women will be spared to become our slaves or concubines." 
Sev
I saw a squirrel today jumping from one tree to another, the branch it landed on snapped. So the squirrel was on this falling branch, clambering like mad, thinking it was doing something about it.'
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.04.11 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren
What the hell would a bunch of machines want to farm us for? They don't eat meat, and we'd just consume a whole load of energy best used by themselves.
Remember, they didn't farm us to eat us. They farmed us in order to harness our energy and use it to power themselves. It's interesting, and highly likely.
Interesting it may be, but likely it is not. It's impossible, because animals do not produce energy; they consume it. It would be at least ten times more efficient for the machine race to wipe us out completely.
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Lasiurus
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Posted - 2006.04.11 18:49:00 -
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I like ideas where humans try to achieve perfection, such as the mentats/bene gesserit in dune, or the scientologists in Foundation. Because serisouly, we could do with being better people.
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.11 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kurren on 11/04/2006 20:32:48
Originally by: hired goon
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
NON-BELIEVERS!!!
Besides... everybody knows that something like The Terminator would happen long before The Matrix would! I just meant that machines taking over is highly likely... imho. /agreestodisgree
edit - And, everything produces energy (until it dies). It just doesn't produce as much as it consumes. For example, the heat your body puts off is energy.
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Kailea Shandrasekkar
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Posted - 2006.04.11 20:45:00 -
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I remember having some goosebumps while reading one of the Neuromancer series books. A famous runner (hacker) counsiousness was scanned just after his death, ans was running inside a emulator device. The main char was then being helped by this emulated hacker.
The thing had a weird sense of humor. Which made it even more creepier.
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Spahn X
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:37:00 -
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One of my favorite films is Lucas' 'THX 1138'.
The simple idea of the personal freedoms we give up as we advance as a civilization. Unauthorized sex is prohibited, drug violations mean you haven't been taking your sedation, and a new form of religion is mandated. Orwellian cinema at it's finest.
I have heard this film referenced as a natural progression from Kubricks 2001:ASO (another favorite of mine), though I don't buy into that idea much, if any. One main correlation is that 2001:ASO is a very very very simple story at it's core. Man and his tools, and how he uses them and how those tools can eventually evolve man into a more advanced being. This relates to THX1138 in that those tools have eventually become primary to survival, and that every man and woman gives up their own personal freedoms to provide those tools. Though, if you ask me, 2001:ASO isn't even a SCIFI film. It is given that category simply because of it's main setting.
So, why do the concepts contained within THX1138 intrigue me? Mainly because I see our current society progressing towards that end today. That Lucas' envisioned such things more than three and a half decades ago is a testament to his creativity. The tools we use as humans today have ended up ruling us, in a way that can be considered unhealthy to the advancement of personal freedom. The global dependance upon things such as oil, steel, timber, concrete, and anything else required for industry further proves that humans are destined for a life of autonomy.
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kessah
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Posted - 2006.04.12 03:02:00 -
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Having a telescope so powerful it could see around the curvature of the universe and if you were looking back on yourself, you would in effect be seeing the future, because the universe is infinite as it is a never ended curve in which you could pick any point in time to view by adjusting the dimension or angle of the telescope?
Im not entirly sure thats correct but its my understanding of what they were on about in that film Pay Check. If im wrong please lemmie know and explain it me better.
The film was ****, but the science was clever, all steming from Einstein's general relativity theory if im not mistaken? Someone more clever than me will clarify this.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.12 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 12/04/2006 09:25:42
Einsteine's theory of relativity is a bit of a cop out.
if you're looking at a clock face, light reflects off it and travels towards you at the speed of light. Because its moving so fast, if you can see the clockface the time is right. right? Kinda. Unless you are moving away from the clockface at the speed of light, so you only ever see one instant of light - at which point time stands still.
Um. sort of. Nice one Einsteine, you tit.
Note to THEORETICAL QUANTUM PHYSISICS PhDs and GCSE SCIENCE STUDENTS: please don't post 7000 word essays on this. I'm really not that interested.
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Darwinia
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Posted - 2006.04.12 10:17:00 -
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I the subject I find most interesting is trying to immagine and describe a truly alien civilisation.. even on our little planet the culture differences can be incredible, it's very hard to fanthom how different would an alien species be, culturally speaking.
Biology is easy.. for such and such an enviroment, you need such and such organs, sensors, limbs, etc. But what kind of society would intelligent ballon floaters in the atmosphere of a gas giant build?
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.04.12 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Usul Faust
Note to THEORETICAL QUANTUM PHYSISICS PhDs and GCSE SCIENCE STUDENTS: please don't post 7000 word essays on this. I'm really not that interested.
As evidenced by the fact that you've completely misunderstood the whole thing. But never mind 
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2006.04.12 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Usul Faust
Note to THEORETICAL QUANTUM PHYSISICS PhDs and GCSE SCIENCE STUDENTS: please don't post 7000 word essays on this. I'm really not that interested.
As evidenced by the fact that you've completely misunderstood the whole thing. But never mind
Do you think? I thought it pretty much described the special theory (and Einstein would probably have agreed with the tit remark ), but what do I know?
Sev
I saw a squirrel today jumping from one tree to another, the branch it landed on snapped. So the squirrel was on this falling branch, clambering like mad, thinking it was doing something about it.'
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kessah
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Posted - 2006.04.12 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Usul Faust
Edited by: Usul Faust on 12/04/2006 09:25:42
Einsteine's theory of relativity is a bit of a cop out.
if you're looking at a clock face, light reflects off it and travels towards you at the speed of light. Because its moving so fast, if you can see the clockface the time is right. right? Kinda. Unless you are moving away from the clockface at the speed of light, so you only ever see one instant of light - at which point time stands still.
Um. sort of. Nice one Einsteine, you tit.
Note to THEORETICAL QUANTUM PHYSISICS PhDs and GCSE SCIENCE STUDENTS: please don't post 7000 word essays on this. I'm really not that interested.
General Relativity theory is different from his Relativity Theory. As general relativity takes the gravatational affects of large bodies on Light and Time, well thats what its saying in the Brief history of time by hawking.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.12 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 12/04/2006 14:44:23
*Hnnng*
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saik
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Posted - 2006.04.12 14:53:00 -
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A few episodes of the Outer Limits that make me take a step back and think, some are very well thought through and writen. :)
Not sure how we will be traveling through space at high speeds, but 1 thing is sure, we need a power sourse to beable to fuel whatever means we'll be using. I read somewhere that some brainy professors have looked into Warp Drive from Startrek they said it would require the power of the sun to run it, but I dunno. :P
Those that mentioned Matrix, the story is that humans made the AI machines, the machines become independant and something along the lines causes a war between them. In the end the humans cause the sun to be blocked out from the sky attempting to starve the machines which were running on solar power at the time, but the machines found a new engery source by using the electrical energy in humans.
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Petwraith
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Posted - 2006.04.12 14:55:00 -
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Wormhole weapons in farscape imho.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.12 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Usul Faust
Einsteine's theory of relativity is a bit of a cop out.
if you're looking at a clock face, light reflects off it and travels towards you at the speed of light. Because its moving so fast, if you can see the clockface the time is right. right? Kinda. Unless you are moving away from the clockface at the speed of light, so you only ever see one instant of light - at which point time stands still.
Um. sort of. Nice one Einsteine, you tit.
Note to THEORETICAL QUANTUM PHYSISICS PhDs and GCSE SCIENCE STUDENTS: please don't post 7000 word essays on this. I'm really not that interested.
Don't post about what you don't have a clue about.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.12 15:06:00 -
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don't post
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Al Haquis
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Posted - 2006.04.12 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Al Haquis on 12/04/2006 16:57:50
Self human evolution, name of the game is tampering and playing with our gen¦s so we can better adapt to enviorment around us.
Dan Simmons goes into this with the Ousters in the Hyperion series.
A must read for all real sci-fi n÷rds, and going to recommend the Gap series after stephen donaldson.
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Ravsen
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:18:00 -
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The omega molecule from ST voyager !
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Zavernus Hamarabi
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Posted - 2006.04.13 04:46:00 -
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Best ever:
Can't remember who wrote it, but someone wrote a short story on a group of people in a spacecraft explosion.
Just a story about what happened after the craft exploded and they were sent slowly floating away from eachother in space without a hope to be recovered.
One goes crazy, other gets a meteor to the head, one smashes his faceplate so on so forth, really awesome.
Another one of my favorites is timetravel, more the sad type. ie: man creates a time machine but because of the law of paradox is unable to travel backwards, so he ends up going so far forwards that mankind is actively dismantling the latest technology and replacing it with obsolete technology to somehow stave off social entropy
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Ominus Decre
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:47:00 -
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"Blade Runner"
...not the orignal but the directors cut. The orignal had a TERRIBLE ending where as the directors cut stays true to the theme and direction of the story.
The United Nations had went through great lengths to acknowledge the potential reality that exists within the setting of Blade Runner. Runaway greenhouse effect, promise of a better life offworld, replicants running amuck.
Riddley Scott did an amazing job and the basis as written by Philip K. **** "Do Sheep Run in Electric Dreams?"
Blade Runner has influenced many other sci-fi movies, games, and literature.
The setting of Los Angeles within Blade Runner is belivable and engaging. Watching the movie envokes much thought and wonderment.
Quotes that are striking!!
Fiery the angels fell; Deep thunder rode around their shores...burning with the fires of Orc.
More human then human is our moto.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams ... glitter in the dark near Tanhauser Gate. All those ... moments will be lost ... in time, like tears ... in rain. Time ... to die.
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2006.04.13 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ominus Decre
"Blade Runner"
Riddley Scott did an amazing job and the basis as written by Philip K. **** "Do Sheep Run in Electric Dreams?"
Is it not 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep' ?
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Ominus Decre
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Posted - 2006.04.13 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lardarz B'stard
Originally by: Ominus Decre
"Blade Runner"
Riddley Scott did an amazing job and the basis as written by Philip K. **** "Do Sheep Run in Electric Dreams?"
Is it not 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep' ?
 
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Tar Ecthelion
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Posted - 2006.04.13 19:06:00 -
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"It is said that Man is made in the image of God and since this God made the Universe, Humanity feels confident that it has a right to rule it.
But there are other Gods, dark Gods, Gods in whose terrible image other creatures are made -
and these too might believe that they are destined to rule..."
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ermo
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Posted - 2006.04.13 23:08:00 -
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The Nights Dawn Trilogy by Peter F Hamilton and the books by Richard Morgan are quite simply amazing.
If you've read any of them that is how I foresee humankind developing. I think genetics and computers (AI) are going to be the major contributing factor to our evolution outside of earth.
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2006.04.14 10:41:00 -
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The mystery of morning wood.
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