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Knights Armament
State Protectorate
Caldari State
192
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:51:00 -
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I've noticed that we got some elderly people playing EvE, and I was thinking now would be a great time to offer them an insurance policy, what would happen if the mittani died tomorrow? Think about helping players pass on their accounts to friends and family by letting them setup an in game will. I know untimely and unfortunate things occur every day in the real world, so wouldn't it be nice to know that your loved ones can keep your immortal character alive when you pass on to oblivion?
I just don't want you all to die without leaving me your stuff :(.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZOdADD5RNs&feature=youtu.be
http://evemouthbreathers.blogspot.com/
https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
488
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:52:00 -
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First! :D
EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You are at it from day 0! |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
4694
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:56:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:First! :D
last!
:)
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Knights Armament
State Protectorate
Caldari State
192
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Posted - 2014.02.14 13:57:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:First! :D last! :)
3rd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZOdADD5RNs&feature=youtu.be
http://evemouthbreathers.blogspot.com/
https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |
djentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc.
107
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:09:00 -
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Said this once already today, imma say it again.
Do you even Features and Ideas discussion, bro?
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Knights Armament
State Protectorate
Caldari State
192
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:12:00 -
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You're right, it is a feature idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZOdADD5RNs&feature=youtu.be
http://evemouthbreathers.blogspot.com/
https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |
djentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc.
108
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:16:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:You're right, it is a feature idea.
Hey, don't get me wrong - I think it's a great idea - just more likely to get dev attention if you put it in the right place :P Perhaps a helpful ISD will move it for you.
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Na Und
Galactronics
167
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:34:00 -
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EVE--we scam dead people! |
Rainbow Dash
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
84
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Posted - 2014.02.14 14:39:00 -
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Na Und wrote:EVE--we scam dead people!
Hey, they're not going to be using their stuff on account of, you know, being dead. Might as well give it to me. |
WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
158
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:21:00 -
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This is a horrible idea. If a person enters the EVE gate irl, their in game character should remain permanently inactive as well. Imagine if some pubbie were to start playing on respectable accounts where the person passed away irl. No... just no.
Maybe it's a cultural difference, but where I'm from you don't pillage the dead (so to speak). Leave them to rest in peace. |
Knights Armament
State Protectorate
Caldari State
192
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:24:00 -
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WASPY69 wrote:This is a horrible idea. If a person enters the EVE gate irl, their in game character should remain permanently inactive as well. Imagine if some pubbie were to start playing on respectable accounts where the person passed away irl. No... just no.
Maybe it's a cultural difference, but where I'm from you don't pillage the dead (so to speak). Leave them to rest in peace.
Well I don't agree that pubbies should be allowed to breath the same air as me, I do understand that they too wish to be allowed to play eve if only to support me with isk from flying such expensive fits. Now let me delve deeper into this, what if imagine dragons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZOdADD5RNs&feature=youtu.be
http://evemouthbreathers.blogspot.com/
https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
101
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:33:00 -
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New contract type: will.
Upon character biomass, the will takes effect.
BUT WHY STOP THERE?!
Every EVE player is issued a heartbeat monitor that is linked to the EVE API.
This is painfully inserted by CCP Surgeon inside the player.
Upon dying the character is automatically biomassed.
The blood-curdling scream is recorded and played back to everyone receiving something in the Will upon accepting the contract.
Because when a player dies, do we not all die a little inside?
I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
http://andallcombat.wordpress.com/current-tournament/ |
WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
158
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:33:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:WASPY69 wrote:This is a horrible idea. If a person enters the EVE gate irl, their in game character should remain permanently inactive as well. Imagine if some pubbie were to start playing on respectable accounts where the person passed away irl. No... just no.
Maybe it's a cultural difference, but where I'm from you don't pillage the dead (so to speak). Leave them to rest in peace. Well I don't agree that pubbies should be allowed to breath the same air as me, I do understand that they too wish to be allowed to play eve if only to support me with isk from flying such expensive fits. Now let me delve deeper into this, what if imagine dragons.
Your reply makes no sense whatsoever.. But then again this is a troll thread. |
Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:49:00 -
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So you think it is a good idea if somebody continued playing as Vile Rat? |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
2755
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:55:00 -
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I, Khergit Deserters, bequeath my character and EVE account to my nephew Benjamin. On the condition that he shall always keep the subscription active, using his own money, in perpetuity. And on the condition that he shall enjoy being mistaken for me, the decendent player-testator, and never rage quit, despite dealing with the many people I have offended or made unfavorable impressions upon, over many years of inebriated ATK gameplay. |
Knights Armament
State Protectorate
Caldari State
193
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:56:00 -
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Ra Jackson wrote:So you think it is a good idea if somebody continued playing as Vile Rat?
I don't know who vile rat is, but why not?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZOdADD5RNs&feature=youtu.be
http://evemouthbreathers.blogspot.com/
https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |
gattttan
Crazy Space Troopers
0
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Posted - 2014.02.14 16:14:00 -
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I think the idea of passing your stuff on to a player of choice is good. But not the character, And maybe CEO roles to directors would be useful. But that should only apply to corps over 200 members. Just for the general headache it could cause ccp as they would have to prove the person was dead and not just on vacation |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
582
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Posted - 2014.02.14 16:40:00 -
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Ahar. This is kind of funny...in a nice way...sorta. I'm 58 years old. I suppose that's ancient by some short-sighted standards. (I won't bother to remind you, the kids you influence now could very well be punching your ticket in a very short while, oh ye who never ages.)
I'm leaving my account(s) to my grandson who is six years old right now. Only thing is, with this life expectancy thing, I have another 32 years before I have to start worrying about not logging in anymore. Yeah. I have more time left than a lot of "youngsters" have been alive thus far. Can you believe that?
If you can't, you better start, 'cause it was only yesterday I was 24 years old fighting the communist hordes for your right to post inane crap on game forums....two kids in diapers...feeling immortal...grrrrrrrr 
I guess plain cussedness is the Fountain of Youth in the end. You'll get my game when you pry it out of my arthritic, wrinkled up, liver-spotted hand!
Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
MEZZA Creire-Geng
TEC-NOLOGY
Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
25
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Posted - 2014.02.14 16:56:00 -
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wow.... i dont know how to respond to this
some people need to wake up and listen to what they are saying/suggesting. wrong on so many levels and above all else
this is a game with nothing more than pixels on a screen EvE is not real people. |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
235
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:00:00 -
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I'm real. I suppose your keyboard just pounds on itself...interesting.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to. |
MEZZA Creire-Geng
TEC-NOLOGY
Sorry We're In Your Space Eh
25
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Posted - 2014.02.14 17:11:00 -
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real stupid gl with life. |
Graabeerd Khagah
ImaNicePirate.com
Ideal Society
99
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Posted - 2014.02.14 19:24:00 -
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Aging?? Are you trying to tell me that just because I'm 61 (soon to be 62) that I can't keep up with you younguns?? I can honestly say I can probably out whipped most of you younger guys in a wrestling match, then be my luck I get poddded...again LOL!!
Seriously I haven't thought about what would happen to my account(s) that I have all over the internet but yes there are ways of immortalizing or remembering those who lives were full of adventure, excitement and what ever else. I haven't really sat down with an attorney yet and thanks for reminding me of that.
I'll let you all know what I find out in a few days and bring it forward to this amazing wonderful community |
rswfire
Firesworn
Firesworn Nation
165
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Posted - 2014.02.14 19:30:00 -
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Personally, I want to have my decomposing body nourish a new tree...and just be a tree after I die. That's a real thing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw
http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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Obunagawe
322
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Posted - 2014.02.14 19:54:00 -
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You can't leave your account to someone as this is in breach of the EULA. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
1094
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Posted - 2014.02.14 20:33:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:I've noticed that we got some elderly people playing EvE, and I was thinking now would be a great time to offer them an insurance policy, what would happen if the mittani died tomorrow? Think about helping players pass on their accounts to friends and family by letting them setup an in game will. I know untimely and unfortunate things occur every day in the real world, so wouldn't it be nice to know that your loved ones can keep your immortal character alive when you pass on to oblivion?
I just don't want you all to die without leaving me your stuff :(.
Account sharing is against the EULA, when the player dies, the characters should be bio-massed.
CCP: "We know what's best for the game, so you can't have any options....." |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
309
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Posted - 2014.02.14 20:41:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Ra Jackson wrote:So you think it is a good idea if somebody continued playing as Vile Rat? I don't know who vile rat is, but why not?
Oh dear
If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Muestereate
Minions LLC
173
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Posted - 2014.02.14 21:46:00 -
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your account can't be sold but your character can. The cost of this service if I offered it as a third party would have to include enough isk in fees to compensate for character transfer charges. Perhaps the paupers have to be buried as usual in an unmarked data server field but the rich could easily pass through a third partys hands quite legally. I can't figure out how to do accidental sudden death or how the income stream would work exactly but a few options could be calculated. Monthly premiums would appeal more to the masses but if anybody is interested in me handling this just start sending me a hundred mill a month now and a signed notice from your doctor that he doesn't expect you to kick within the next couple years. and we'll make adjustment on the fly. I guess your family should be prepared to send me a death certificate scan. Like real insurance if you die early I'll eat the fees and if youo don't I make money.
Thanks for the great Isk making Idea OP, my fees and service will be better than yours |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4196
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Posted - 2014.02.14 21:51:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote: ...what would happen if the mittani died tomorrow?
As tempting as it is, I'm not even going to touch that one. But the things I'm thinking right now...
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Rainbow Dash
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
85
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Posted - 2014.02.14 22:06:00 -
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WASPY69 wrote:Maybe it's a cultural difference, but where I'm from you don't pillage the dead (so to speak). Leave them to rest in peace.
Once you're dead, there's nothing left. Saying "don't steal from the dead" is like saying "don't steal from that tree". It's kinda silly. |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
1264
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Posted - 2014.02.14 22:10:00 -
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Nothing concrete to contribute to this thread that's going no particular place important. Just wanted to express my appreciation of your handle: Knights Armament.
Good stuff! |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
1264
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Posted - 2014.02.14 22:12:00 -
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Na Und wrote:EVE--we scam dead people!
Careful, or the dead might scam you! <- Insert "Soviet Russia" joke here. |
Uma D
Uma D Ltd.
53
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Posted - 2014.02.14 23:19:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Ra Jackson wrote:So you think it is a good idea if somebody continued playing as Vile Rat? I don't know who vile rat is, but why not?
Since you asked....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Smith_%28diplomat%29 |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2014.02.14 23:44:00 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:Ahar. This is kind of funny...in a nice way...sorta. I'm 58 years old. I suppose that's ancient by some short-sighted standards. (I won't bother to remind you, the kids you influence now could very well be punching your ticket in a very short while, oh ye who never ages.) I'm leaving my account(s) to my grandson who is six years old right now. Only thing is, with this life expectancy thing, I have another 32 years before I have to start worrying about not logging in anymore. Yeah. I have more time left than a lot of "youngsters" have been alive thus far. Can you believe that? If you can't, you better start, 'cause it was only yesterday I was 24 years old fighting the communist hordes for your right to post inane crap on game forums....two kids in diapers...feeling immortal...grrrrrrrr I guess plain cussedness is the Fountain of Youth in the end. You'll get my game when you pry it out of my arthritic, wrinkled up, liver-spotted hand!
I'll be 57 in a few months. When I die, NO ONE gets 1 damned item..and if I'm sick and going out, I will Biomass and everything goes with me. About 200 Billion ISK of value right now... |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
Solar Assault Fleet
1003
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Posted - 2014.02.15 00:48:00 -
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As a mere youngster at 51 I sorted it out by having most of my in game assets in some corps that my children have access to.
But they will not get my accounts/characters.
They will ride with me into the sunset (or lagging slightly behind due to billings mechanisms ;))
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil.
CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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Erica Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration
2970
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Posted - 2014.02.15 00:52:00 -
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If it comes with a comprehensive dental policy I'm in.
Will being a smoker effect my premiums?
Major (Ret.) Caldary Naval Militia | Morale Officer (Pinup model)
Just an innocent explorer!-á pâä | -áWormhole Sisters of EVE
Herrbert: "womwomwowmwoaugharwajwowoooommm"
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Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
54
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Posted - 2014.02.15 00:53:00 -
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Obunagawe wrote:You can't leave your account to someone as this is in breach of the EULA.
Bingo!
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Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
54
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Posted - 2014.02.15 00:55:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Knights Armament wrote: ...what would happen if the mittani died tomorrow? As tempting as it is, I'm not even going to touch that one. But the things I'm thinking right now... Mr Epeen
I am thinking about temperatures just about thaw .... mmmmm |
Clementina
Coreli Corporation
137
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Posted - 2014.02.15 03:22:00 -
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What should happen to characters if their player dies or is otherwise permanently incapacitated is interesting. Should the character be permanently inactive or should the character be passable to heirs? Heirs would probably be people the player knows from in-game, unless their friends or family also play Eve Online, but even so maybe CCP should look at facilitating this process, in case there is someone who would want to pass their character to their friends, spouse, children, or whatever when they die. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
4897
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Posted - 2014.02.15 04:26:00 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Obunagawe wrote:You can't leave your account to someone as this is in breach of the EULA. Bingo!
But you can transfer characters.
As an example of what might be possible if CCP provides the means to do so:
- You die.
- In your will, you point out that you have characters in EVE Online
- Your executor gains the privilege of handling dispersal of your in-game assets (i.e.: CCP allows an exception for account sharing to be allowed where a power of attorney or an executor of a will is concerned)
- Executor sells the character through Character Bazaar
- Executor (following instructions in the will) disburses the raised ISK to in-game charity support of your choice, such as Vaerah's PLEX-for-good charity or Sindel Pelion's Angel Project
- Executor then cancels the account
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
3001
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Posted - 2014.02.15 06:50:00 -
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/thread
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
DSpite Culhach
276
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Posted - 2014.02.15 11:01:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Obunagawe wrote:You can't leave your account to someone as this is in breach of the EULA. Bingo! But you can transfer characters. As an example of what might be possible if CCP provides the means to do so:
- You die.
- In your will, you point out that you have characters in EVE Online
- Your executor gains the privilege of handling dispersal of your in-game assets (i.e.: CCP allows an exception for account sharing to be allowed where a power of attorney or an executor of a will is concerned)
- Executor sells the character through Character Bazaar
- Executor (following instructions in the will) disburses the raised ISK to in-game charity support of your choice, such as Vaerah's PLEX-for-good charity or Sindel Pelion's Angel Project
- Executor then cancels the account
Close. In my will I have stated to my executor who the person I want to take over my characters is, and for them to make a new fresh account, and after (or before, I forget) all the toons are transferred to it, and 1 year to be paid into it, so they can use them while I'm dead in a perfectly legal CCP way.
I want my toons to kill stuff after I'm dead dammit.
I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships.
I add bits to this when I'm bored https://www.dropbox.com/s/foijsawsqolarom/EVE_Online.html |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2333
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Posted - 2014.02.15 20:27:00 -
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I'm sure that CCP will site some rule about "sharing client info" if you leave your toon to your grandkids, because why pass up an a perfectly opportunity to make someone start over from scratch and have to pay up all that money all over again just to add a little bit of player satisfaction to the game?
Nullsec in a Nutshell:
http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |
Ralen Zateki
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2014.02.15 20:44:00 -
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It took me all of reading the first 7-8 posts in this thread to wonder what life must be like to moderate these forums.... I'm thinking there's a high suicide rate there.
Hmmm... wonder if they have insurance... |
Hehaw Jimbojohnson
Sheep Can Hear A Zipper From A Mile Away
96
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:30:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:New contract type: will.
Upon character biomass, the will takes effect.
BUT WHY STOP THERE?!
Every EVE player is issued a heartbeat monitor that is linked to the EVE API.
This is painfully inserted by CCP Surgeon inside the player.
Upon dying the character is automatically biomassed.
The blood-curdling scream is recorded and played back to everyone receiving something in the Will upon accepting the contract.
Because when a player dies, do we not all die a little inside?
Only if it could be inserted via anal probe. It would only be fitting. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4326
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Posted - 2014.02.15 22:42:00 -
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There should be one exception to the restriction against account sharing. And that should be in cases regarding the RL death or "permanent loss of ability" (for example: all that self enjoyment actually causing blindness like they warned us when we were teenagers) .
But how to enforce it? I don't think the laws regarding power of attorney and a video game account would be in agreement. Power of Attorney as it exists in most countries and the EULA of a game don't appear to mesh. Would CCP have the power or the "rights" to demand that the executor of the will or handler of the estate prove that the original account owner is deceased by furnishing a copy of the death certificate? There's a lot of laws regarding creditors and "taxing authorities" doing that in financial matters and obligations, but a video game publisher? I just don't know.
Whatever happens, everything would have to be based in the EULA.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
White Mountain Coalition
1047
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Posted - 2014.02.15 23:11:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:New contract type: will.
Upon character biomass, the will takes effect.
BUT WHY STOP THERE?!
Every EVE player is issued a heartbeat monitor that is linked to the EVE API.
This is painfully inserted by CCP Surgeon inside the player.
Upon dying the character is automatically biomassed.
The blood-curdling scream is recorded and played back to everyone receiving something in the Will upon accepting the contract.
Because when a player dies, do we not all die a little inside?
This is exactly what I need. Where can I sign?
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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