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Burning Furry Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 24	Posted - 2014.02.15 11:34:00 - [1] - Quote Morning all. Several times in the past i've made forays into 0.0 only to have to leave/be forced out due to time pressures. I don't have all the time in the world to play this game, and if i log in with 1 maybe 2 hours of time to spend, i don't think its feasible to wait for 2 hours orbiting a tower while a fleet forms. If i mine, i'm a carebear If i rat, i'm an uber carebear, I can't participate in fleets as they generally take ,longer to form than i have time to spend. So my question to you guys is: Did i join **** alliances? Are there better places in 0.0 for the time poor? 0.0 players frequently *** about the volume of players in high-sec. Prove me wrong and suggest a way i can get into 0.0 with 1 hour or less per day! CC.
Infinity Ziona Cloakers 1684	Posted - 2014.02.15 11:36:00 - [2] - Quote Go solo. Alliances are for chimps. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4637	Posted - 2014.02.15 11:48:00 - [3] - Quote You joined ****** alliances. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 45	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:02:00 - [4] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Go solo. Alliances are for chimps. Solo is where it's at. Be a lone rebel...
Yarda Black Epidemic. Spaceship Samurai 37	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:04:00 - [5] - Quote I see your problem. I blame both FC's and fellow players. Here's why: IF you read a mail that a fleet goes out at 22.00 EVE time, you'd think everybody would undock and move at 22.00 right? Here's what happens: Random alliance dude 1 at 22:05: "Anything going on ? " Random alliance dude 2 at 22:07: "There's a fleet?" Random alliance dude 3 at 22:12: "what ships do you need?" Random alliance dude 4 at 22:20: "Did you guys leave yet?" Random alliance dude 5 at 22:36: "O wow, you guys doing a fleet? Can I join?" This happens in all timezones in all alliances. For years. I blame FC's for wanting peeps so bad, I have to waste at least 40 min of gametime for people that are too lazy to read. Goonswarm might be big enough to form a fleet they feel is OK and tell everybody that isnt on time or asks stupid question to **** off. But then you would be in the CFC.
Arkady Romanov GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:07:00 - [6] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: You joined ****** alliances. seconded. It depends where you want to go in null. SOV null alliances might want you to be slightly more active because there is territory at stake. That said, any alliance that ignores the reality that people have lives outside EVE isn't worth being a part of. However, SOV battles can often go for several hours at a time (from form up to after battle dock up). For your own sake, if you can only snatch an hour or two here or there, SOV null alliances might not be the best fit for you. You might find it annoying that you had to leave mid battle, or that you ended up waiting around during a formup for nothing because you had to leave before the fight even started. NPC null should be somewhat less of an issue. Generally smaller numbers, and you can go on roams which don't have to sprawl for hours unless you want to.
Schmata Bastanold Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 1418	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:11:00 - [7] - Quote Better question would be why do you want to be in null in the first place? Answer that and then look for a corp/alliance doing whatever it is you want to do there. There are people farming anoms all day long, there are those who fight all day long, and there are those doing everything between those two extremities. But it is your job to know which group you want to be a part of. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold
Arkady Romanov GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:16:00 - [8] - Quote Yarda Black wrote: Goonswarm might be big enough to form a fleet they feel is OK and tell everybody that isnt on time or asks stupid question to ** off. But then you would be in the CFC. We don't tell people to ** off. If someone is late to the party, but they can get to the fight (either via bridges or if they're just flying a fast enough ship) then 99% of the time they can catch up and join in. Sometimes however, its just not practical for latecomers to catch up. It happens. Funnily enough, the OP might actually enjoy being in the CFC. There's almost always something going down, from casual drunk roams to serious business OPs at any given time of day. Sometimes at the same time. Just POD to the formup system, grab something off contract and go.
admiral root Red Galaxy Disband. 822	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:19:00 - [9] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: You joined ****** alliances. Thirded. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4638	Posted - 2014.02.15 12:20:00 - [10] - Quote Arkady Romanov wrote: Yarda Black wrote: Goonswarm might be big enough to form a fleet they feel is OK and tell everybody that isnt on time or asks stupid question to ** off. But then you would be in the CFC. We don't tell people to off. If someone is late to the party, but they can get to the fight (either via bridges or if they're just flying a fast enough ship) then 99% of the time they can catch up and join in. Sometimes however, its just not practical for latecomers to catch up. It happens. Funnily enough, the OP might actually enjoy being in the CFC. There's almost always something going down, from casual drunk roams to serious business OPs at any given time of day. Sometimes at the same time. Just pod to the formup system, grab something off contract and go. And pics. Lots of ** pics. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com
Burning Furry Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 24	Posted - 2014.02.15 13:11:00 - [11] - Quote Yarda Black wrote: Goonswarm might be big enough to form a fleet they feel is OK and tell everybody that isnt on time or asks stupid question to **** off. But then you would be in the CFC. I love the way the goons do things, but i don't want to go through the whole somethingaweful.com probation crap.
Varius Xeral Galactic Trade Syndicate 2221	Posted - 2014.02.15 14:10:00 - [12] - Quote The CFC control half the map because they leverage enormous amounts of generally casual players (led ultimately by filthy cheeto-stained neckbeards of course, but that's a different issue). If you can't find a corp that suits you somewhere in that 872k man coalition, you suck at looking for things. That said, sov null isn't for everyone, and there is nothing wrong with that. Most people sit through 2-hour big fleets because they like 2-hour big fleets. If all you want to do is care bear in peace, then there are numerous ways to do that without feeling compelled to participate in other things you don;t want to do or feel you dont have the time to. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 2512	Posted - 2014.02.15 14:14:00 - [13] - Quote Quote: Did i join ****** alliances? Yep. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Chopper Rollins Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 530	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:28:00 - [14] - Quote Confirming there are easygoing alliances out there. Some will let you mine/rat/explore/whatever and never show up for CTAs. They have their dedicated pvp corps for that and keep a thumb on the end of all that non-pvp hate sperg. I joined a gang of blues who bubbled the hell out of a gate because they had forced a bunch of T3s to log off in there. They were willing to wait hours for T3 kills. I hung around for 40 minutes and felt like i'd been generous with my time. Funny bunch, germans and assorted euros, all over 25 and willing to make a day of killing a small gang of russian strat cruisers. TLDR; ya just gotta meet new people Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
I Love Boobies All Hail Boobies 1029	Posted - 2014.02.15 15:32:00 - [15] - Quote Wanna have a lot of fun in 0.0? Cloaky ship, preferably a t3 with all the interdiction nullifier and covert ops sub-systems, find the alliances that complain about AFK cloakers in their home systems, and sit out there. I say T3 because you can go do some exploration when you're bored, make some ISK while you're at it.
Seven Koskanaiken Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 854	Posted - 2014.02.15 16:43:00 - [16] - Quote Yarda Black wrote: I see your problem. I blame both FC's and fellow players. Here's why: IF you read a mail that a fleet goes out at 22.00 EVE time, you'd think everybody would undock and move at 22.00 right? Here's what happens: Random alliance dude 1 at 22:05: "Anything going on ? " Random alliance dude 2 at 22:07: "There's a fleet?" Random alliance dude 3 at 22:12: "what ships do you need?" Random alliance dude 4 at 22:20: "Did you guys leave yet?" Random alliance dude 5 at 22:36: "O wow, you guys doing a fleet? Can I join?" This happens in all timezones in all alliances. For years. I blame FC's for wanting peeps so bad, I have to waste at least 40 min of gametime for people that are too lazy to read. Goonswarm might be big enough to form a fleet they feel is OK and tell everybody that isnt on time or asks stupid question to **** off. But then you would be in the CFC. I been in one alliance where the advertised time was the undock time. Never had a problem with numbers because everyone knew that's how thing were done. It's like that law where work expands to fill the deadline etc etc.
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 46	Posted - 2014.02.15 17:38:00 - [17] - Quote Yarda Black wrote: I see your problem. I blame both FC's and fellow players. Here's why: IF you read a mail that a fleet goes out at 22.00 EVE time, you'd think everybody would undock and move at 22.00 right? Here's what happens: Random alliance dude 1 at 22:05: "Anything going on ? " Random alliance dude 2 at 22:07: "There's a fleet?" Random alliance dude 3 at 22:12: "what ships do you need?" Random alliance dude 4 at 22:20: "Did you guys leave yet?" Random alliance dude 5 at 22:36: "O wow, you guys doing a fleet? Can I join?" This happens in all timezones in all alliances. For years. I blame FC's for wanting peeps so bad, I have to waste at least 40 min of gametime for people that are too lazy to read. 40 minutes? How about 2 bloody hours. We all were in very expensive Battleships and going out on a roam. We got out 10 jumps into null when we saw another good sized fleet that we could fight. Our idiot FC says "Guys, dock up quick we dont want to lose our expensive ships". So I says why the hell did we bring the bloody things than? 5 minutes after docking up, the FC says "Crap guys, I gotta get to work, make your own way home"... Facking piece of crap...
Lucie Devlin Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 7	Posted - 2014.02.15 17:39:00 - [18] - Quote You might be better off in faction warfare. It's easy to get solo and or small gang fights within 10 minutes of undock. I play just like you want to by hunting people in fw space when I want fights and doing trade/Industry stuff when I don't.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension 832	Posted - 2014.02.15 18:04:00 - [19] - Quote Burning Furry wrote: Yarda Black wrote: Goonswarm might be big enough to form a fleet they feel is OK and tell everybody that isnt on time or asks stupid question to **** off. But then you would be in the CFC. I love the way the goons do things, but i don't want to go through the whole somethingaweful.com probation crap. Might look at NPC 0.0 You may want to do some research.
Anomaly One Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 276	Posted - 2014.02.15 18:10:00 - [20] - Quote BrundleMeth wrote: Infinity Ziona wrote: Go solo. Alliances are for chimps. Solo is where it's at. Be a lone rebel... the lone rangers Never forget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sfaN8zT8E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l_ZjVyRxx4 Trust me, I'm an Anomaly. DUST 514 FOR PC
Tzar Sinak Mythic Heights 99	Posted - 2014.02.15 19:06:00 - [21] - Quote I have been in null alliances. I have been in WH corps. Hmm, I have experienced a lot of EVE. As a casual player the most fun I have had thus far is courtesy of mobile depots and GSAs. I have been living in null sec doing MY own thing anyway I want and enjoying it. Thanks CCP. This really does work. I am glad someone took the time to write it up. Quote: Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467
Silvetica Dian Manson Family Advent of Fate 722	Posted - 2014.02.15 21:52:00 - [22] - Quote lots of null is very casual friendly. as previous people said research and find one that does things u want to do in your tz. dw about the sov guys with their sov world problems. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
ashley Eoner 280	Posted - 2014.02.15 22:48:00 - [23] - Quote Burning Furry wrote: Morning all. Several times in the past i've made forays into 0.0 only to have to leave/be forced out due to time pressures. I don't have all the time in the world to play this game, and if i log in with 1 maybe 2 hours of time to spend, i don't think its feasible to wait for 2 hours orbiting a tower while a fleet forms. If i mine, i'm a carebear If i rat, i'm an uber carebear, I can't participate in fleets as they generally take ,longer to form than i have time to spend. So my question to you guys is: Did i join **** alliances? Are there better places in 0.0 for the time poor? 0.0 players frequently *** about the volume of players in high-sec. Prove me wrong and suggest a way i can get into 0.0 with 1 hour or less per day! CC. In reality it isn't unless you're friends with the leadership before joining. There are corps who claim to be casual friendly but usually casual to them is only spending four hours a day in game every day. I'm sure they exist but I haven't found one yet :(
Inxentas Ultramar Ultramar Independent Contracting 1173	Posted - 2014.02.15 22:58:00 - [24] - Quote Hm, I don't have that much experience in null, but most of it was solo. I'd say equipped with the proper knowledge and SP in the right places, yes you can eke out an existance in nullsec. The most important factor would be to have a station to work from. What you won't get that much is casual PVP though, Faction Warfare or lowsec in general is better to go pick a fight in a cheap ship. I'd say try that first, and then move to nullsec once you know a few people in your corp that are quick to form up. The pitfall here is that you may end up in a player corp that puts little focus on group activities. When others are online, you should be in contact with them via intel channels and teamspeak, many eyes in many places. If corp chat and TS are dead you are in a true carebear corp where everyone does their own thing. If you are expected to report intel and be in a fleet, you might be in that cool solo-small-gang PVP corp that still needs to undock and rat for their ISK. That hardly defines carebearing.
Rashnu Gorbani Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2014.02.15 23:04:00 - [25] - Quote Don't ask what an alliance can do for you, ask what can you do for them. If the answer is nothing, then join a renter corp, or just live in NPC space.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4327	Posted - 2014.02.16 03:22:00 - [26] - Quote Burning Furry wrote: Morning all. Several times in the past i've made forays into 0.0 only to have to leave/be forced out due to time pressures. I don't have all the time in the world to play this game, and if i log in with 1 maybe 2 hours of time to spend, i don't think its feasible to wait for 2 hours orbiting a tower while a fleet forms. If i mine, i'm a carebear If i rat, i'm an uber carebear, I can't participate in fleets as they generally take ,longer to form than i have time to spend. So my question to you guys is: Did i join **** alliances? Are there better places in 0.0 for the time poor? 0.0 players frequently *** about the volume of players in high-sec. Prove me wrong and suggest a way i can get into 0.0 with 1 hour or less per day! CC. "Is 0.0 accessible for time strapped/casual players?" yes and no. Yes if you enjoy the game more than some obsessive aspergian min-maxing over ISK or KB. No if you care about stats or ISK. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Isus Jarode Sons of Ivaldi Zero Hour Alliance 3	Posted - 2014.02.16 04:46:00 - [27] - Quote If you really want to play in the nullsec sandbox then that's your prerogative. Let me offer a narrative from my brief nullsec experience. It's 2008. I join a small Caldari mining and manufacturing corporation. I find out that they're integrating into a small nullsec alliance (known as Slyph Alliance for any oldies that might recognize them). I move all of my trivial property down to their territory. My time there is made up of: Hiding in stations Hiding from "pirate" patrols Unable to run missions or mining ops because of frequent nullsec fights Three months later the Goonies and their pawns/"allies" swoop in and wipe the floor with Sylph in a series of fleet drops, a few of which were mercenaries from PL and others. My corp uproots and heads to Minmatar space. I go hiatus just as we join another null sec alliance in the north. I came back six months later to find out that my corp has collapsed. Fortunately none of my assets were in nullsec so I picked up and ran with a new bunch of folks before I eventually found my current roots. Moral of the story: if you want the nullsec life then go out there and throw everything you have into it. Don't go out there for curiosity's sake or because you want to say that took part in the chaos. Some people revel in that life - others enjoy empire living. Just figure out what matches you best and move forward from there.
Varius Xeral Galactic Trade Syndicate 2224	Posted - 2014.02.16 04:57:00 - [28] - Quote Isus Jarode wrote: If you really want to play in the nullsec sandbox then that's your prerogative. Let me offer a narrative from my brief nullsec experience... I was unsure where this was going, but it ended up being excellent advice. Even if you are going to play ``casually``, the small decisions you make will have enormous impacts on your gameplay. So while some activity may only take five minutes of your time, the repercussions of your actions may shape your condition for years to come. Again, nullsec isnt for everyone. While time isnt necessarily a limiting factor, there are many others that may make other areas of the game better suited to you. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal

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