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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.04.11 05:43:00 -
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I'm not sure if these have been posted however they are out and they are quite wicked cool.
Amarr Battleship
Minmattar Battleship
Gallente Battleship
Caldari Battleship isn't listed, it'll probably look like a really cool ship with half of it cut off.
These are off an Artists website who says he's done work on EVE, he has other sketches in the gallery of existing ships (Titans, carriers, fighters. They seem to be public domain so I see no harm in posting them, If CCP doesn't want these viewed yet you can lock this thread immedietly.
I see some things I find interesting, namely the Amarr one being so wide and stout (makes me think they are going to try and give the Amarr a versi bs like the phoon and domi), and hte Gallente one looking like a progression of the tristan-celestis school of Gall design... I like that. I also think that the minnie one will end up with sails like the tempest has in those locations, which will make it a sweet looking ride.
Hearty Thumbs up to the Eve Artists.
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.04.11 05:51:00 -
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If those are final, then... wow! 
I like the Amarr one the best, personally (but I like the Amarr ship look).
I don't know that I like the Gallente one. But I guess it sorta fits with the other fugly Gallente ships  (Well, 'cept the 'thron and 'rax)
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.04.11 05:52:00 -
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I think the Gallente one is the one that most badly needs to be seen from another angle.
I could imagine it looking really cool or really lame depending on how they do one or two details.
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Darwinia
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Posted - 2006.04.11 05:56:00 -
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I dislike the Gallente one too.. the organic look might work for Titans and motherships, but not on battleships.
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.04.11 05:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Gierling
I think the Gallente one is the one that most badly needs to be seen from another angle.
I could imagine it looking really cool or really lame depending on how they do one or two details.
Yeah, I see what you mean. if it is basically that shape swept about (ie. looking similar to that, having vague rotational symmetry), I think it will be ugly 
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:04:00 -
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The way I THINK it looks is that the engines will be on a cloverleaf like protrusions, with the two engines in the front coming out noticably (theres something on the front that seems like an engine pod).
The guns seem to be on the very nose and tail. (the 44 points, which ostensibly would be on the other side as well).
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Zavernus Hamarabi
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:05:00 -
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The minmatar battleship doesnt look crappy enough.
Please crap it up, and add a completely retarded bonus.
Kthnx :D
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Rift lance
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:08:00 -
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Edited by: Rift lance on 11/04/2006 06:10:35
I kinda think the minmatar looks like a crossing of the Tempest (rear) and a huge Bellicose (front), but it still look pretty cool 
The gallente on the other hand ... it needs more work or maybe it is just that it needs to be seen from a different angel.
And the Amarr, well it might need to move one of its 8 turret slots to a different spot on the ship but WHAT a sweet looking ship!!
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Mi Lai
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:09:00 -
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Wow , the Minnie ship looks like a spaceship instead of something that fell of a spacestation.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:10:00 -
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Wanna bet the Gallente one will have the nickname of buttplug?
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:12:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 11/04/2006 06:13:16
Originally by: Rift lance
And the Amarr, well it might need to move one of its 8 turret slots to a different spot on the ship but WHAT a sweet looking ship!!
QFT.
I like the Minmatar design... but I'm a fan of the look of both the Typhoon, Tempest, Rifter, and Stabber. I really like how they look! I hate the Rupture's look though! 
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Wanna bet the Gallente one will have the nickname of buttplug?
OMG CCP, please do not go through with that design for the tier 3 Gallente battleship!
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Amarria Lightwielder
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:28:00 -
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Ohh me wants the Amarr one :)
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Breed Love
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:34:00 -
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gallente one is hawt.
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Johnny Twoshoe
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:35:00 -
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Nine times out of ten the concept art for a ship or ships is far more badass than the final ship model.
Just look at the concept for "Amarr Fighter", which seems to be the Executioner.
That Amarr BS concept is stunning, though.
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Victor Valka
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
Wanna bet the Gallente one will have the nickname of buttplug?
I hate you. 
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Aramova
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:47:00 -
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VERY Impressive, I hope to see more concept art like this, LOVE it!
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Darwinia
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:50:00 -
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The Amarr looks wicked and all, but I don't see the advantage of exposing 60% of the structure 
And the Minm is not shoddy enough.. use more ducktape!
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Malken
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:51:00 -
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OMG!!! ITS TEH AMARR PANDA!!!!1111oneleven
name it Panda Devs and ill never fly anything else
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Marcus Druallis
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Posted - 2006.04.11 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus Druallis on 11/04/2006 06:59:53
Honestly though, that concept of the Amarr is making me want to train Amarr. I'm not kidding...
EDIT: But to be honest, 90-99 % of those concepts in the portfolio look 200x better than the final ship models.. LOOK AT THE CALDARI FIGHTER!! WHY DID YOU CHANGE IT!!!
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.04.11 07:05:00 -
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Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 11/04/2006 07:05:54
 Who the frac is CCP's new ships designer? Fire the frack, and get the old back!
Thees are all symmetrick, yor olde good genrick space ship designs.
My non existed 6 years old sister can do same after playing trought freespace 2.
I want Original, unsymetrick EVE ships! ¿
Not this "seen it 2000 times" poo!
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Dario Wall
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Posted - 2006.04.11 07:09:00 -
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The Amarr one almost looks like it might be a drone carrier...
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Marcus Druallis
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Posted - 2006.04.11 07:16:00 -
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Why the hell don't you want symmetry?
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.04.11 07:19:00 -
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I hope the picture of the new Caldari Teir 3 is similar looking to the scorp but diffrent in that it has two more wings and the upper and lower fins are forward swooping.
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Posted - 2006.04.11 07:23:00 -
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I'd rather a more traditional looking movie BS. Something like the Pheonix, how it is long and bulky, not odd shaped and all. I want to actually like what I fly...
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.04.11 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Why the hell don't you want symmetry?
becuase its like from 80's space scifi?
i fell in love with eve design cause it had unsymetrick designs with most imaginary looks.
in almost all new ships, however, this is not so. They are all symmetrick.
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Marcus Druallis
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Posted - 2006.04.11 07:26:00 -
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Symmetry is more pleasing to the eye. And don't try and bring in realism (how symmetry is not needed in space due to no use of aerodynamics because of the lack of friction and all) because nothing in EVE is realistic.
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.04.11 07:52:00 -
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Asymettric designs would require orders of magnitude more engineering spent to ensure that stresses remained constant.
That can be justified in some times and cases but by and large any sane society would try to have symmetry in thier spaceship designs to reduce the amount of expense (and not to mention wasted mass) of developing ships.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.04.11 07:54:00 -
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Just saw these earlier today, geez, links spread fast on irc.
They all look cool, admittedly, but I have a few things I'd like to say.. maybe the artist is reading.
Amarr - too little armor plating, especially in the front.. its also my opinion that the providence would make a better tier 3 battlship, and this could become a better freighter. But hey, providence looks like it could destroy a planet :|
Gallente - looks sort of like the Hyperion class destroyer from babylon 5, although its a common shape. I really dislike the turret placement if its going to be 4 at the front and 4 at the rear. Multiple smaller engines, like on the Thorax, give ships a bit more scale than these gigantic things. It also looks very smooth, but not sleek, and if its going to be the ultimate blaster battleship with those kinds of engines.. it should at least look menacing or built for speed.
Minmatar - very bellicose-like, also a bunch of smaller solar panels would give it better scale than a few huge ones.. kind of like vigil vs cyclone.
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Efbiai Ehgent
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Posted - 2006.04.11 08:02:00 -
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Uhh.. what?
(read the caption)
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.04.11 08:03:00 -
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A typo.
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Efbiai Ehgent
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Posted - 2006.04.11 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Amarr - too little armor plating, especially in the front.. its also my opinion that the providence would make a better tier 3 battlship, and this could become a better freighter. But hey, providence looks like it could destroy a planet :|
providence=squashed apoc
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.11 08:08:00 -
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With the Trinity upgrade the graphics should blow every other game away, when eve first came out it killed all the other MMOGs away.
Lets hope they can do it again.
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.11 08:09:00 -
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Edited by: Litus Arowar on 11/04/2006 08:10:54
well speaking of symmetry we haven't seen the caldari design, and the amarr, gallente, and minmatar designs are largely symmetric
saying that symmetry is pleasing to the eye is a little mislead, as it's based on attractiveness of a species... I can personally say that a crow looks good due to its asymmetry... if, however, I saw a chick with a really big left boob, but nothing on the other side I'd be a little worried and might walk swiftly the other way
the point is, symmetry has no place in architecture, which is what you're getting at the battleship scale... it is no longer a matter of form vs function, but rather a matter of making a ship look huge and powerful (in the case of battleships)
making the caldari BS have a completely lopsided design wouldn't make it ugly, it'd just make it look caldari, which is what we all probably want
so yes, symmetry is displeasing when it hints at genetic problems, but when it's part of design it can be quite sexy (think of a really big US military plane carrier and tell me it doesn't look menacing)
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.04.11 08:27:00 -
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Litus, operating ******* away is a common practice in order to prevent breast cancer, although it's uncommon with younger people.
Also, it has been scientifically proven that symmetry is pleasing and attractive regardless of species or object. However, that is not to say that pleasing or attractive objects can't be assymmetrical. There's also a possibility that small assymmetrical attributes enhances the beauty of an object or person by shifting focus favourably. Etc etc.
As for the Gallente BShip, seriously. It needs some sort of big Y-shaped extensions in the front, or other wicked features so that it doesn't become the new ***** of EVE. At least something that makes you think of the pain it'd involve putting a model of it into any... orifice.
If it was made thin, with the front thinning off even more to make it more reminiscent of a dagger than a *****, that'd work, too.
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Minmatar ship looks like the rebel medical ship from Star Wars or something.
The Amarr ship's side plates should come together more in points, a'la Executioner. Otherwise it's really cool.
Arkanor > Gallente missileboat might be cool.
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Posted - 2006.04.11 08:30:00 -
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That site is awesome, thanks for the links
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Posted - 2006.04.11 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dario Wall
The Amarr one almost looks like it might be a drone carrier...
That would be very nice.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.11 08:49:00 -
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Mhmm really really nice. Think someone was looking at Roman warships and ships of the line for inspiration, when it comes to Minmatar and Amarr ships.
The Gallente with bridge in middle and overall shape reminds me of these Russian nuclear submarines... and yup, wonder what it'll look like from another angle.
But sucks Caldari ship isn't included there ;.;
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.04.11 08:59:00 -
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Awesome stuff, though i'm really looking forward to seeing what the caldari one looks like.
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 11/04/2006 07:05:54
Who the frac is CCP's new ships designer? Fire the frack, and get the old back!
Thees are all symmetrick, yor olde good genrick space ship designs.
My non existed 6 years old sister can do same after playing trought freespace 2.
I want Original, unsymetrick EVE ships! ¿
Not this "seen it 2000 times" poo!
QFT, actually. I like the designs, but they need more assymetrical features, that's what I loved about the EVE ships in the beginning.
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Mallik Hendrake
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:16:00 -
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The amarr one looks like an apoc making love to a megathron.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:18:00 -
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Gallente fugly again :/ whats the deal here...
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Luc Boye
Gallente fugly again :/ whats the deal here...
Try flying minmatar... Can't wait to see how they bollox this one up.
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Bellum Eternus
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:29:00 -
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I was really hoping to see some cool ship designs for the Tier 3 BSs. Oh well, guess I'll hav to continue waiting. The Gallente BS looks particularly bad.
I want a Gal Tier3 BS to be sexier than the Mega, not uglier than the Domi. I'd fly a Dominix if it were sexy and sleek like the Vexor. But no, it has to look like an RV. An ugly RV at that.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:29:00 -
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amarr one looks like a hauler, gallente looks like a piece of lab equipment, minmatar looks like a ship from star wars based off darth vader's puppy
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sonho
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:34:00 -
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The minmatar looks a very good a pest and a staber glued together, wicked...But maybe drop a front fin :)
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Fuujin
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:37:00 -
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The gallente one looks great, what are you people smoking.
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:44:00 -
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The Amarr BS looks soooo cool !!!! 
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Mjala
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:52:00 -
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THE CALDARI TIER3 BS!!!!!!11111
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Litus Arowar
Edited by: Litus Arowar on 11/04/2006 08:10:54
well speaking of symmetry we haven't seen the caldari design, and the amarr, gallente, and minmatar designs are largely symmetric
orly?
obviesly you dont fly Minmatar very often.
Minmatars got
2 symmetrcal frigates from old designer
3 symetrical cruiser from old designer
zero symetrical BS's from old designer
1 symmetric destr and *gasp* 1 symetrical BC from new designer
Galentte got:
1 symetrical figate from old designer
Zero symetrical cruisers (no vexor is not symmetrical)
1 symetrical BS ..¿
so symmetry away!
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Chi Prime
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Posted - 2006.04.11 09:55:00 -
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Ooooh...
The Amarr one looks amazing
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Chi Prime
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Posted - 2006.04.11 10:09:00 -
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ffs, the more I look at the Amarr one the more I want to start training Amarr...
(Also, it does have a certain drone-carrier look to it...)
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Drew Blaze
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Posted - 2006.04.11 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Drew Blaze on 11/04/2006 13:03:13
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.11 13:15:00 -
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The Amarr one looks like one of the 50ies/60ies futuristic swimming seatown designs.
The Minmatar one follows the design lines of the Thrasher and Cyclone, kinda mixed with Stabber and Phoon, but it is missing the oomph of the phoon's rocket drive design.
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Posted - 2006.04.11 13:30:00 -
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Day-um! It's times like this I wish I trained up Minmatar, i've fallen in love with that new Battleship. The Amarr one looks so cool too, makes me glad I specialize in Amarr.
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Degale
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Posted - 2006.04.11 14:07:00 -
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Aesymetric designs actually make more sense and are more effecient than symetrical ones. what you really want is a small pod of any shape or design and then a long pole attached with thrusters to turn the ship around a central pivot. Furthermore terror is an effective weapon, and if you fleet looks badass as it warps in to battle your enemy might turn and run. I mean gallente do decend from the French right.
But flight characteristics are not all thats important. you ever wonder why engines are slung under the wing of passenger jets? Its not efficency for sure. It is better to have the engines above the wing for aerodynamic lift and aeroelastic twist on the wing structure. The engines are below the wing to reduce noise in the cabin and mainly to make servicing the planes easier.
Thats just my opinion, I only have an aerospace engineering degree and work for an aircraft manufacture. I could be wrong.
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Mr Popov
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Posted - 2006.04.11 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Johnny Twoshoe
Nine times out of ten the concept art for a ship or ships is far more badass than the final ship model.
Just look at the concept for "Amarr Fighter", which seems to be the Executioner.
Actually no, that concept art is spot on for the Amarr Fighter.
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SasRipper
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Posted - 2006.04.11 14:47:00 -
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Amarr Battleship = looks more like a friegter tbh
Minmattar Battleship = speedy auto cannon spam fest
Gallente Battleship = the butt plug off doom! arent i gald am gallete speced ;/
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Cyrus Gideon
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Posted - 2006.04.11 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: Cyrus Gideon on 11/04/2006 15:18:47
The Minmatar one looks way to clean and smoth. they should add more edges, some pipes the typical rusty texture to it, then it is ready to go.
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Sakura Kuroi
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Posted - 2006.04.11 15:28:00 -
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One thing I noticed about this Concept Art there is only one Caldari art there. Looks like someone else designs them. Unless CCP, had the artist not put them on their sight due to spoilage.
Anyways, the Amarr looks wicked cool. Now I wish the Executioner Line looked like the fighter concept but then what would the drones look like?
Gallente, just seems so odd compared to the rest of what I have seen of the Gallente ships.
Minmattar does not look pieced together enough. Needs more duct-tape and bubble gum maybe some bayling wire. 
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.04.11 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
The Gallente with bridge in middle and overall shape reminds me of these Russian nuclear submarines... and yup, wonder what it'll look like from another angle.
soviet sub with disc in the middle
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fairimear
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Posted - 2006.04.11 15:35:00 -
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that gal thing looks hot.
really needs another angle though.
i visulaise it as being 3/4 the size of a mega and def only a blaster ship.
very nice.
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Simlife
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Posted - 2006.04.11 15:44:00 -
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Hmm, looks like the minnie carrier still packs a real pumch in the old looks department.
Shame it's a bit like a blonde. Not much up top but it's not going to matter. (Untill the bugs are fixed.)
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.11 15:45:00 -
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Btw. people complain about the new ships being all-symmetrical and how boring it is etc... but this seems hard to tell from these single sketches, actually.
The Amarr battleships looks more like the whole middle part could be off-centre, with weight shifted to the left side (though it'd be quite unusual for Amarr ship to not be symmetrical)
the Gallente ship heck knows, we're presuming the nose is simple shape but for all we know it could as well be Megathron-like, not like it's possible to tell. Or the engine thrusters disc thing isn't symmetric but has different numbers of engines on ship sides, or engines are of different widths, or whatever.
The perspective view on the Minmatar ship also doesn't quite match, the bottom wing farther from camera is placed quite a bit too close. If i had to guess, it appears more like there's single 'full' wing going straight through middle of the ship, then there's copy of bottom part of that wing attached to edge on right side, and copy of 'top' part of middle wing attached on the left ship side.
Then again, it could be all wrong... guess will just wait and see o.O
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Red Six
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Posted - 2006.04.11 16:05:00 -
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I'm liking the Minmatar and Amarr ones but I'm feeling sad about the Gallente one.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2006.04.11 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: fairimear on 11/04/2006 16:13:26
the gallente one is uber.
the size of the engines are very explainable in the fact a blaster boat would need larger than normal thrust to close range.
the turrets i would move.
2 on sides and 2 on top front and back.
as for syimetric's of the ship, a fully symetrical gal BS would not suprise me as currently the gallente BS generaly are, this stands true for amarr to.
i imagine the texture to look much like the moros and brutix so i can't say anything but yay.
Any way i think the comunity should not have seen these yet.
all 3 are REALLY GOOD from a eve player and artists perspective and it would be a shame for any to get altered becuase of it.
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O'Sirius
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Posted - 2006.04.11 16:14:00 -
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I'm not sure why everyone likes the Amarr one so much. To me it seems like its... not Golden enough.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2006.04.11 16:15:00 -
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OOO and take a look at 8/15 the thantos art.
at the bottom there is a ship for scale.
can't say i recognise it, maybe the caldari BS?
looks caldari
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Talren
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Posted - 2006.04.11 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Talren on 11/04/2006 16:32:50
No it is just the Gal Carrier from front and from right side.
My contribution:
Amarr: omg looks pretty good but not goldy enough :(
Gallente: could look good without the freaking "ring" in the middle.
Minmatar: omg so ugly :/ It looks as it was stolen from one of the very first James Bond movies a few decades ago :(
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.04.11 17:11:00 -
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Outstanding design Love the amarr and the matari ships, gallente tier3 battleship on the other hand, looks like a buttplug 
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.04.11 17:41:00 -
[70]
The Gall one does kinda look like a snake that ate a dinner plate.
PRoposal to fix blobbing and make Charisma useful.
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.04.11 17:48:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Epsilon 1
Outstanding design Love the amarr and the matari ships, gallente tier3 battleship on the other hand, looks like a buttplug
Those with visions of buttplugs prolly need to reexamine their lifestyles.
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2006.04.11 18:10:00 -
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Minnie - cool
Gallente - I want to see another angle, but could look very cool.
Amarr - WTF!!! This thing IS the Amarr Freightor. There isn't enough armor. Arbitrator, Curse, Geddon. THAT's what it should look like - lots of armor.
I have to agree with DC 110%. The Providence model should be the new Amarr BS while this thing should be the Amarr Freightr. Providence looks armored to the teeth. Thats what the new BS should look like too. It just doesn't look......defensible enough. I do like the solid feel of the craft though.
But if it's a drone boat that can tracking disrupt out to 200km....I will be flying it.
Nyxus
Macgyver can build an airplane out of gum and paper clips, but Chuck Norris can kill him and take it.
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.04.11 18:40:00 -
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That minnie seems to be too solid.
You need to make it more wispy.
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pyr8t
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Posted - 2006.04.11 18:40:00 -
[74]
My 2 cents...
AMARR ship looks awsome. I quite like the short stockyness of it. It's a departure from the rest of the 'thin' amarr battleships. If this design sticks i'll train Amarr I think, I like it that much.
MINMATAR ship is dissapointing. Which is a big let down since i've been hoping they would do something really cool and instead we got a long poll with an engine at the back. I truthfully hate it. I think they should have gone more in line with the AMMAR design, only more 'minmatary' in design (yeah I just made that word up).
GALLENTE ship, well I don't really care about gallente because I think all of their ships are ugly, except for the brutix. In any event, even with the huge disk in the middle this ship looks like the best one in Gallaente's fleet.
At this point, i'm jealous of both AMARR, GALLANTE and CALADARI (and we haven't even seen theirs yet).
The minmatar ships are pretty ulgy, but the ones that look cool are really really awsome, like the TYPHOON and the FENIR, and maybe tempest. If this design makes it into the game i'll be dissapointed.... maybe I should just start teching up ammar now?
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pyr8t
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Posted - 2006.04.11 18:43:00 -
[75]
.... oh, and I think these concept sketches are all pretty final. If you look at the rest of his sketches they are all very accurate of what the other ships look like in the game.
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Rosalina Sarinna
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Posted - 2006.04.11 18:46:00 -
[76]
Im in love with the Amarr BS 
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.04.11 18:50:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Ruah Piskonit
Originally by: Dario Wall
The Amarr one almost looks like it might be a drone carrier...
That would be very nice.
I would cry... since my plan is to train up to use the Dominix, and then train for my geddon and apoc.
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pyr8t
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Posted - 2006.04.11 19:14:00 -
[78]
I just wanted to add that we should probably add our comments to the sketches on the artists site. It's easy to do, so drop him your thoughts/likes/dislikes on these designs. It's early enough it might make a difference.
My guess is he added these sketches as he did them, and he is probably working on the caldari one now which is why it's not there.
I still can't help but get the impression of 'strength' and 'power' when looking at the Amarr and Gallente battleships, but the Minmatar one just looks like a...a sissy... I can't think of any other word for it really. I just don't get the impression that it's 'mean'. And minmatar ships are supposed to be mean. If it gets the shaft on the fitting and bonuses then the playerbase is going to revolt.
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Itzena
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Posted - 2006.04.11 20:17:00 -
[79]
Minmatars revolt?
Surely not!
*starts saving for the new Amarr BS*
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Posted - 2006.04.11 20:26:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Boonaki
With the Trinity upgrade the graphics should blow every other game away, when eve first came out it killed all the other MMOGs away.
Lets hope they can do it again.
I just wish they made Widescreen rosolution option.
I saw the WOW on a DELL 20" widescreen at 1600x1xxx something like that . IT looked very sweet.
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Forsch
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Posted - 2006.04.11 20:34:00 -
[81]
Doesn't EVE run on any resolution?
Forsch
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.11 20:39:00 -
[82]
the amarr design and minmatar design look almost like they switched engineers...
I'm already not a fan of the need for certain amarr ships to have metal "framework" sticking out (executioner, apocalypse), but I am a big fan of long swooping sections of armor... this new design makes me kinda glad that I don't fly BSs... I like the overall areas where the armor is, I think that is a cool shape, but I think that the inner sections need to be a little more armored as well... reminds me of the Fifth Element Gun
the minmatar one does nothing for me... but neither do most other minmatar designs (except the slasher, stabber, and rifter)
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.11 20:44:00 -
[83]
"Doesn't EVE run on any resolution?"
Think it does... it works for me at least, can select modes like 1280 x 7xx which are widescreen ratio... and it works fine o.O;
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pyr8t
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Posted - 2006.04.11 20:58:00 -
[84]
Another point I want to make is that of the 3 ships, the minmatar has the least ammount of detail. It looks like it was designed in a rush and little to no thought went into it. Like he didn't care.
Because seriously the other 2 ships there have enourmous amounts of detail in the drawing and you can tell alot more attention and care was used in making them.
Here's how he made this....
Designer:
"hrmmmm" ::draws straight line::
"ummhrmmm" ::adds sails to straight line::
"Perfect!"
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hired goon
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Posted - 2006.04.11 21:01:00 -
[85]
All these designs are bad, very bad.
-omg-
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Exelsior
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Posted - 2006.04.11 21:54:00 -
[86]
Originally by: hired goon
All these designs are bad, very bad.
Why do you say so?
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Rosalina Sarinna
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Posted - 2006.04.11 21:58:00 -
[87]
Originally by: hired goon
All these designs are bad, very bad.
Thats not fair to say unless you can give detail as to why they dont suit their faction / role or whatever.
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Timberjack
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Posted - 2006.04.11 22:04:00 -
[88]
mmmm i hope thats not the Final Concept.
Amarr -Wheres the Front??
Minmatar-looks like a Robotics Dog
Gallente -is ok but why so big in the middle?
I hope
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Meridius
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Posted - 2006.04.11 22:17:00 -
[89]
I like the 8 turret points on the Amarr one
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Dynast
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Posted - 2006.04.11 22:31:00 -
[90]
I rather like the looks of all three, though I certainly hope there's a bit more to the Gallente design than we can see from that angle. It does look suspiciously like something you'd buy at an Adult store.
The partial armor on the Amarr design almost makes me think it's being designed around med slots for shield tanking or something wierd like that, with the armor it has being vestigial and more to maintain a somewhat traditional appearance.
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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.04.11 22:34:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Scalor Valentis
Originally by: Litus Arowar
Edited by: Litus Arowar on 11/04/2006 08:10:54
well speaking of symmetry we haven't seen the caldari design, and the amarr, gallente, and minmatar designs are largely symmetric
orly?
obviesly you dont fly Minmatar very often.
Minmatars got
2 symmetrcal frigates from old designer
3 symetrical cruiser from old designer
zero symetrical BS's from old designer
1 symmetric destr and *gasp* 1 symetrical BC from new designer
Galentte got:
1 symetrical figate from old designer
Zero symetrical cruisers (no vexor is not symmetrical)
1 symetrical BS ..¿
so symmetry away!
This isn't exactly accurate.
Most ships bar caldari are mostly symmetrical, with minor differences; take for instance the Megathron, it's symmetrical, but with minor doodads on each side; ditto for Vexor, tristan, incursus, etc.
Symmetry - sure. But not 100% symmetry.
Utterly asymmetrical ships are cool, so are almost symmetrical ones - and completely symmetrical ones, when used in moderation.
Respect the Domi. Or else.
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Posted - 2006.04.11 22:51:00 -
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That Amarr looks so sinister and threatening and suits the role perfectly, a name such as "Decimator" would go quite well. The Minmatar battleship is very similar to the Bellicose in a sense it doesnÆt look sturdy and isn't meant for close range combat, and with the long sweeping bays on the sideÆs looks like drone bays, could this be a Minmatar drone carrier?
The Gallente I look at with confusion, I presume the small raised part of the design behind the disc is the 'Bridge' or Command Deck so to speak, with the disc being the engines, but without knowing the role, I cant think what would suite its design. The Megathron features a sweeping design for its indication of speed for its close range blasters, and the Dominix with its centralising design as it holds a large drone bay and improved tanking ability.
But I always admire Concept art and they are extremely impressive, and with artwork form the Asian characters, I hope these designs are used on the final production.
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Jared VonBargen
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Posted - 2006.04.11 23:06:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Mjala
THE CALDARI TIER3 BS!!!!!!11111
see, bandwidth blocks views now.....it was a hoax, caldari wont ever get a non-missile BS :(
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shaqarava
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Posted - 2006.04.11 23:14:00 -
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Edited by: shaqarava on 11/04/2006 23:15:36
The Amarrian one is great, looks like an Amarrian/Caldari hybrid; with Caldari style crude utilitarian inner structure and Amarrian style grandios plating. Maybe it can be of Khanid origin.
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pyr8t
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Posted - 2006.04.11 23:57:00 -
[95]
I've heard of 'navy' versions of ships.... but there's 'pirate' versions? This is the first i've heard of this.
How do you get them... and how do they look differently?
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.04.12 00:07:00 -
[96]
Originally by: j0sephine
"Doesn't EVE run on any resolution?"
Think it does... it works for me at least, can select modes like 1280 x 7xx which are widescreen ratio... and it works fine o.O;
Except for the (sometimes severe) distortion at the edges. Though I don't know if that is what Glarion Garnier was talking about.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.12 00:13:00 -
[97]
Edited by: j0sephine on 12/04/2006 00:14:08
"Except for the (sometimes severe) distortion at the edges. Though I don't know if that is what Glarion Garnier was talking about."
Edge distortion is a pretty normal effect of perspective used in game -- the camera 'sees' 60+ degree field, but this field is drawn on flat monitor screen which often covers smaller area of space in real world than these 60+ degrees in front of you, to boot... can't do really much about it short of narrowing the field of view (which would actually have nice side-effect of making your ship appear 'bigger)
It's possible game engine scales the field of vision to screen aspect ratio -- i.e. the wider the screen, the larger is field camera renders at once ... which in turn makes this distortion more pronounced.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2006.04.12 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rosalina Sarinna
Originally by: hired goon
All these designs are bad, very bad.
Thats not fair to say unless you can give detail as to why they dont suit their faction / role or whatever.
Well, I feel they are not very representative of the respective races styles. Discorporation pretty much brought up the points I'd say.
The ship designer interviewed in EON sounded like he knew what he was talking about. He stated how you can't simply design a ship then make it bigger and blam - titan. You have to take the scale into consideration.
For example the 'fish fins' on a tempest are also present on Naglfars and Sandcrawlers. They're just smaller and less noticable.
And look at the titans as the extreme example. They could all just be similar looking blobs - one brown, one yellow, one grey and one green. But zoom in and the racial details become apparent.
-omg-
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Orree
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Posted - 2006.04.12 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Just saw these earlier today, geez, links spread fast on irc.
They all look cool, admittedly, but I have a few things I'd like to say.. maybe the artist is reading.
Amarr - too little armor plating, especially in the front.. its also my opinion that the providence would make a better tier 3 battlship, and this could become a better freighter. But hey, providence looks like it could destroy a planet :|
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Totally agree. I always said it was a crime there are no guns on the providence. I love that model.
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Lorette
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Posted - 2006.04.12 01:00:00 -
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I think they all have promise, gallente is a bit naff but most things do when you can only see a fully 2d version. One thing ive noticed is all 3 have 8 turret hardpoints (amarr and minmatar evenly along the sides, and gall 4 on each side of the front/back i assume). Possibly so devs can subtract them if they need to when they finalise the slot layouts.
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.04.12 01:22:00 -
[101]
Of course theres always the possibility that they may be Battlecruiser models.
Cus were getting new BC's.
SO I don't know if these are all bS or if they are all BC's, or if theres some of each.
PRoposal to fix blobbing and make Charisma useful.
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Kernel Sander
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Posted - 2006.04.12 01:29:00 -
[102]
Is it just me or does the Gallente one look like it is in the act of putting on a giant condom?
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Meridius
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:15:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Gierling
Of course theres always the possibility that they may be Battlecruiser models.
Cus were getting new BC's.
SO I don't know if these are all bS or if they are all BC's, or if theres some of each.
They are labelled as battleships. Even if they were not, the scale implied by window size would definetly suggest something battleship size.
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:22:00 -
[104]
Fair nuff Meridius, but the artist may not know the difference between a BC and a BS and even if he does theres no gauruntees till its on Tranq.
Remember the Mammoth was originally a minnie Battleship as well.
I just wish sisi was up with these suckers on them
PRoposal to fix blobbing and make Charisma useful.
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Krulla
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:34:00 -
[105]
Since the new minnie BS seems to be the bellicose's bigger brother... I can't belive anyone hasn't pointed this out..
Target painter bonus?
Respect the Domi. Or else.
SIG HIJACK!!11 RAWRR!!1- IMMY
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Franky B
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:39:00 -
[106]
anyone else see the resemblance of the minny BS frontend with the egyptian god anubis?
http://www.linsdomain.com/gods&goddesses/pictures/relief-anubis.jpg
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Lefia
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:42:00 -
[107]
If the minmatar battleship is gonna look like that I better start training up my projectile skills.
Originally by: hired goon
I agree with every point and counter point that has been brought up in this and every other argument ever had.
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.12 02:46:00 -
[108]
Originally by: shaqarava
Edited by: shaqarava on 11/04/2006 23:17:42
The Amarrian one is great, looks like an Amarrian/Caldari hybrid; with Caldari style crude, utilitarian inner structure and Amarrian style grandiose plating. Maybe it can be of Khanid origin.
Now to wait for the navy and/or pirate versions of these ships to come out
I believe I've just documented the only time someone used "great" and "Khanid" in the same sentence... god I hope it's not gonna be a khanid BS, cause if it is, the complaints will never stop
but I think we're safe cause Khanid does tech2... so, it's more likely that it won't be Khanid (ie: split slots, split hitpoints, split bonuses)
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kessah
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Posted - 2006.04.12 03:29:00 -
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i duno i think the matari one looks very similar to the geddon.
the amarr one isnt typical amarr really, amarr are very stream line with more curves and what can only be explained as aerodynamic, but this is clearly not.
The Gallente one i feel needs something more that 'disk' in the middle needs to go.
They are all wonderfully detailed tho. But there not typical for there race.
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Posted - 2006.04.12 04:09:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Johnny Twoshoe
Nine times out of ten the concept art for a ship or ships is far more badass than the final ship model.
Just look at the concept for "Amarr Fighter", which seems to be the Executioner.
That Amarr BS concept is stunning, though.
No, thats the Templar.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.04.12 04:16:00 -
[111]
Wow love the look of the Minmatar ships. Would definatly stop the snickering.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
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Posted - 2006.04.12 05:46:00 -
[112]
can the minnie ship be a close up specialist with some structural integrity?
100% projectile fitting for high-slots
Better tanking
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:12:00 -
[113]
Those are looking neat, except the Gallente one is a side view so you really can't say what it acctually looks like.
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Tiridus
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Posted - 2006.04.12 07:28:00 -
[114]
I like the gallente BS, its cool, probably better without the disk... maybe some thorax like winglets instead.. but i'd still buy one...
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Tarri
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Posted - 2006.04.12 07:42:00 -
[115]
I love the minmatar one, i hoped it would be the same colour as the stiletto and it got it And silver and red is imo even better on a bs then silver and blue. I don't see why minnie ships must all look the same, their old BS where build with what they had at that time but now with more ressources why shouldnt their new bs be all streamlined and good looking .
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Linavin
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Posted - 2006.04.12 07:52:00 -
[116]
The Minmatar design is, in my opinion, a better theme than the heavily deconstructed look currently. The sleek look, the same style of the vigil, conveys the sense of minmatar speed much better than the 'scrapheap' look does.
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:05:00 -
[117]
I want the wings on the minnie BS to be angled backwards. Would look more dangerous then.
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:16:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Nifel
I want the wings on the minnie BS to be angled backwards. Would look more dangerous then.
I agree, it'd look like a sweet metal shark that way :)
as for the "old look" matar vs the "new look" matar, I think they might update all the ships to look less scrapheap with the graphical overhaul that's coming soon™... it'd make a lot of sense, as matar are well past the whole "fledgling rebellion" and are a real powerhouse now... ships being overhauled to look more in line with this concept art would make sense... I personally don't like the particular design, but I do like the "look", and could see all matar ships being overhauled into a more polished, industrial look...
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:17:00 -
[119]
The Gallentean "disk": I sort of like it, and to be honest it's needed to take away from the whole ***** and buttplug references. I honestly think there should be more disks (and other protrusions). Not necessarily pi*r^2 disks, but they could be deformed to let engine exhausts from engines located on other disks infront through, etc.
Also, I'm really missing a ship that'd imply good old-fashioned artificial gravity through rotation.
Arkanor > Gallente missileboat might be cool.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:48:00 -
[120]
<3
cool
where caldari ?
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sonho
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Posted - 2006.04.12 09:12:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Krulla
Since the new minnie BS seems to be the bellicose's bigger brother... I can't belive anyone hasn't pointed this out..
Target painter bonus?
Just pod yourself till you have no skills.
P.s:I Know you are joking ;)
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eLLioTT wave
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Posted - 2006.04.12 09:17:00 -
[122]
CCP HIRE THIS MAN!!!!!!!
get him to redo all the current designs also!
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Anatole Faucet
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Posted - 2006.04.12 09:49:00 -
[123]
The Minmatar one doesn't look... well like a scrapheap... IMO it's not that much in line wiht all the other minnie ships...
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Lorette
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Posted - 2006.04.12 09:58:00 -
[124]
If you look closely the minmatar ones 4 front 'fins' all look like they have a movable base (like a hinge). I would literally have an orgasm (ok slightly overstated) if they moved to that 'shown' position while at speed, and moved into a more X type shape when it slows down.
Dynamic models 4tw, i can always dream 
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StarLite
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Posted - 2006.04.12 10:33:00 -
[125]
The amarr one looks like a phoon collided with an apoc :D
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2006.04.12 10:49:00 -
[126]
Man I hope that Amarr one will really be like that. Those 8 turrets in one line remind me of the old ships of the line. Broadside 4tw! So don't move those turrets!
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Posted - 2006.04.12 11:38:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Talren on 12/04/2006 11:37:47
Quote:
CCP HIRE THIS MAN!!!!!!!
get him to redo all the current designs also!
Asgeir is already an employee of CCP.
Check the gallery info, and his mail ([email protected]).
So all those designs are actually "true", but nothing tells us if they are the actual Tier3 BSs or just old designs.
Btw, even if I don't like the Minma and if I have some serious doubt on the Gall one, I must admit Asgeir is a really good painter/designer/whateveryouwant.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.12 12:10:00 -
[128]
Edited by: j0sephine on 12/04/2006 12:11:27
"So all those designs are actually "true", but nothing tells us if they are the actual Tier3 BSs or just old designs."
Well, pretty much all other designs from that portfolio did make it into game and were used for quite recent ships (carriers, titans, fighters) ... so would say a fair chance these battleships designs are for tier.3 ships. The signature on Amarr ship drawing makes it clear it was made in 2006, too ^^;
(and the more i keep looking at that Gallente battleship, the more it makes me want to train for it >.< Caldari battleship better look damn good...)
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Xerxes X
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Posted - 2006.04.12 12:12:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Why the hell don't you want symmetry?
Because symmetry gets boring when always employed. The Caldari lack of symmetry adds a legitimate racial signature to the design.
Xerxes X
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2006.04.12 14:04:00 -
[130]
Originally by: j0
The signature on Amarr ship drawing makes it clear it was made in 2006, too ^^;
In the immortal words of Vader;
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
It's a freightor FFS! It hasn't enough armor. It's shaped like a flying brick. Where is the sleek panache of the geddon, arbie, apoc, or providence? Where is the omgplatingeverywhere style that we Amarr so love? How can an Amarr exude the arrogance and extremes of righteousness required by our blood if we are flying around in a ship that looks NAKED for all intents and purposes?
I mean really it's quite obscene!
Nyxus
Macgyver can build an airplane out of gum and paper clips, but Chuck Norris can kill him and take it.
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Overlord Agnew
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Posted - 2006.04.12 14:13:00 -
[131]
I don't like the minmatar one really... it should look more like the cyclone so jide won't fly it. The gallente one kinda looks like a wet seal. Amarr one is HOT. I will never fly anything else again if that is the final ship. I mean... SEEEEEXXXXYYYYYY. And to the sayers that it has not enough armor plating... hopefully it has enough firepower that it needs to expose more ship to keep it from going nuclear!
Can't wait to see the Caldari one and PLEASE DEVS please make that amarr ship final!
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.12 14:13:00 -
[132]
"How can an Amarr exude the arrogance and extremes of righteousness required by our blood if we are flying around in a ship that looks NAKED for all intents and purposes?
I mean really it's quite obscene!"
Well, now that you mention it, Apocalypse prances around showing quite a bit of unarmoured skin on the bottom, too -.o
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2006.04.12 15:10:00 -
[133]
The Minmatar are described in the chronicles somewhere (can never find it when I want to post referencing it :P) as being a race just starting to reach for the stars, but exhibiting the best engineering skills seen in the eve galaxy.
They were then reduced practically to rubble by the amarr (who also took a lot of the population for there slave labour) the result was the early minmatar ship designs being made from whatever low-tech parts the matari could scrounge together or build.
It has now been, reportedly over a century since the minmatar rebel forces (combined with the amarr empires defeat at the hands of the jovian directorate) forced the amarr to retreat from what is now known as minmatar space and the matari were able to start rebuilding.
In short, it makes sense that newer ship designs should be a lot cleaner and built in a more orderly fashion, note that they still can't afford to splash out on fancy exteriors, massively thick armour plate and so on .. I personally feel that the new battleship fits fine with all this.
As to what it actually looks like, I think its a bit hard to tell from that picture.
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Posted - 2006.04.12 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: eLLioTT wave
CCP HIRE THIS MAN!!!!!!!
get him to redo all the current designs also!
He's the CCP lead concept artist...soooo...yeah.
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2006.04.12 15:47:00 -
[135]
Originally by: j0sephine
"How can an Amarr exude the arrogance and extremes of righteousness required by our blood if we are flying around in a ship that looks NAKED for all intents and purposes?
I mean really it's quite obscene!"
Well, now that you mention it, Apocalypse prances around showing quite a bit of unarmoured skin on the bottom, too -.o
Yes but the Apoc is kind of like a mullet - business in the front, party in the back.
Now I must flog myself and repent that I have ever compared the gracefull powerhouse of the Imperial Navy to a hillbilly haircut.
<walks towards the punishment chambers>
Nyxus
Macgyver can build an airplane out of gum and paper clips, but Chuck Norris can kill him and take it.
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.04.12 17:25:00 -
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Need I point out that its entirely possible that the Amarr ship has internal armour belts.
This is not an unknown practice, Indeed slathering armour to only the outside of a ship is actually one of the least effective ways of designing an armour system.
PRoposal to fix blobbing and make Charisma useful.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.04.12 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 12/04/2006 18:15:17
The amarr BS in that picture is simply teh best looking ship EVE would have to offer me besides the Nidhoggur, Hel and Naglfar. Its simply sexy plain and simple. I'd finally have a ship to fit the mighty Tach too and be able to sleep at night.
As for the minmatar... I think I'd like it after a few beers. Edit : It still looks to me like a doberman.
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2006.04.12 18:20:00 -
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the Raven actually looks like a raven the Scorp looks like a scorp, i sure hope the tier 3 will actually look like the predator as well otherwise it would be pretty lame.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.04.12 18:35:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
the Raven actually looks like a raven the Scorp looks like a scorp, i sure hope the tier 3 will actually look like the predator as well otherwise it would be pretty lame.
With or without the mask on is the only question I have for you?
Originally by: "Oveur"
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.12 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 12/04/2006 18:39:49
"Yes but the Apoc is kind of like a mullet - business in the front, party in the back."
... And suddenly, it makes perfect sense. So that's why so many Amarr wears hoods in public.
to hide that haircut which reflects their life philosophy... o,o
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Corphus
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Posted - 2006.04.12 18:39:00 -
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finally someone cares more about the looks of ships than the stats .
i like the artist's web page. its cool if freelancers work with ccp and bringin new and fresh ideas into the game.
the minmatar ships is looking too disciplined, it should have more of the the trashy looks.
the amarr bs has a wide opening on the front making it carrier-like. i dont think that amarr should have a bulky bs since the geddon and apoc are more a kind of golden ram then a golden ...ya know..post wagon mixed with trash can.
the gallente one has that organic looks which imo arent bad at all. but the long (looooong) proportions arent the strenght of a gallente bs imo. gallente ships should be a kind of pseudo-bulky. it makes gal ships look a bit unmaneuverable, yet agil due to jet engines at the right places.
ok here somert i made while supposed to be workin : Annihilation Tier 3 BS
ms paint ftw !
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Fatima Nefestis
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:28:00 -
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Now I'm rather liking these designs, oh yes I am.
Amarr: Am I alone in seeing something of an Amarr/Minmatar hybrid in all that exposed internal structure? Maybe the design originated from the desk of some engineer in the Ammatar Mandate... all those engines imply some serious speed, so I can kind of see this as a fast-moving, close-range formation shredder, with, as has been mentioned, a significant dronebay.
Minmatar: I'll echo earlier sentiments that this seems to have sprung from the same engineers responsible for the Thrasher and Cyclone. It definitely has the look of a full-fledged warship, a complete concept, to it, rather than the raider look of the Tempest or the chunky turtle that is the Typhoon. Highly balanced all-round capabilities, with a significant dronebay? It definitely speaks of versatility rather than lending itself to overspecialisation or any particular role on the battlefield.
Gallente: Assuming that's a single hull rather than a split hull like the Megathron, I'm liking this design; it's definitely a big brother to the Thorax. I'd agree that the engines on the disk need to be beefed up a little, even it it does look as though they're merely channelling thrust from chambers somewhere in the mail hull. I for one would love to see turrets spaced along the rim of the disc, as well as the fore and aft clusters.
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MrFu
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:39:00 -
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I suddenly feel the urge to self destruct my tempest,hit my head against a wall and wake up tomorrow and find out al was a dream,and all my skills are at gallente or something
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:12:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Corphus
ok here somert i made while supposed to be workin : Annihilation Tier 3 BS
as much as I like the sketch, the fricking stats make me vomit blood... I don't mean make me WANT to vomit blood, I mean I'm currently covered in my own blood which burst forth from my mouth...
if the tier 3 BS goes on this "khanid innovation" idea, it'll be completely and entirely useless
seriously, I'm thinking you might be kidding and I'm overreacting
shield tank with 4 mid slots? missile boat with only 4 launchers? 4 turret mounts with no turret bonuses? holy mother of god, it sure is true to khanid design, IE frickin useless... how you figure that ship could be used is beyond me, other than being fodder for the real ships
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K1K1R1K1
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:19:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Litus Arowar
Originally by: Corphus
ok here somert i made while supposed to be workin : Annihilation Tier 3 BS
as much as I like the sketch, the fricking stats make me vomit blood... I don't mean make me WANT to vomit blood, I mean I'm currently covered in my own blood which burst forth from my mouth...
if the tier 3 BS goes on this "khanid innovation" idea, it'll be completely and entirely useless
seriously, I'm thinking you might be kidding and I'm overreacting
shield tank with 4 mid slots? missile boat with only 4 launchers? 4 turret mounts with no turret bonuses? holy mother of god, it sure is true to khanid design, IE frickin useless... how you figure that ship could be used is beyond me, other than being fodder for the real ships
Why does Typhoon come to mind?
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:39:00 -
[146]
The Amarr BS looks like a freaking Hotdog ! Without the Ketchup though.
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Posted - 2006.04.13 00:15:00 -
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The new Amarr desighn rocks. Something that doesn't look like a bannana, including being all yellow. =) Overall it does give the feeling of a carrier, rather Galactica like. And that belt of weapon emplacements along the side is just dead sexy.
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Shanid
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Posted - 2006.04.13 00:37:00 -
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I dont know if anyone has asked yet, cant be bothered to read all of it, but do we have any idea of the fittings or anything on them? |
Shanid
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Posted - 2006.04.13 00:40:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Shanid
I dont know if anyone has asked yet, cant be bothered to read all of it, but do we have any idea of the fittings or anything on them?
P.S. dosent that minmatar one make ya think of starwars hehe
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Kayl Breinhar
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Posted - 2006.04.13 00:55:00 -
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The Amarr looks like the Kilrathi "Snak-ir" Battleship from the awful Wing Commander movie.
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Leshrac Shepherd
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Posted - 2006.04.13 03:15:00 -
[151]
Originally by: MrFu
I suddenly feel the urge to self destruct my tempest,hit my head against a wall and wake up tomorrow and find out al was a dream,and all my skills are at gallente or something
I feel your pain.
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Posted - 2006.04.13 04:13:00 -
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The Minmitar design is very reminescent of the Stabber. I like it.
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Alekzander
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Posted - 2006.04.13 05:29:00 -
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I think the caldari one is going to be along the lines of how the cormorant, ferox and phoenix look, long and stalky but not too asymetric. We already have the scorp and raven being extremly asymetric so I can easily see the new ship being more like a flying brick.
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Cassie Anderson
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Posted - 2006.04.13 05:34:00 -
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I think the teir 3 Caldari BS, is going be made out of the missing parts from the Raven and Scorpion. might look kinda funky
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Major Reeves
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Posted - 2006.04.13 06:02:00 -
[155]
I looked though the book. I have actually seen the Mim Dread in game and it looks very much like the artwork.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.04.13 07:39:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 13/04/2006 07:39:32
Originally by: Morgana Janan
The Minmitar design is very reminescent of the Stabber. I like it.
Looks more like a Bellicose to me. I like the fuselage but dislike the huge fins. If it goes ingame as is... I will fly the Amarr one and keep to phoons and pests.
Originally by: "Oveur"
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Hayabusa Fury
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Posted - 2006.04.13 07:44:00 -
[157]
Everyone keeps saying the minni one doesn't look crappy enough. Since the crappiness of minni ships comes from low resources of recently being oppressed, I would think enough time has passed and the empire has grown enough that a "NEW" Battleship would appear nicer than the others.
I dunno...
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Hayabusa Fury
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Posted - 2006.04.13 07:48:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Cassie Anderson
I think the teir 3 Caldari BS, is going be made out of the missing parts from the Raven and Scorpion. might look kinda funky
The secret is, that once the Tier 3 Caldari ship is released we will find out that all the Caldari BS's connect to form a super sexy happy mega fun wtf pwnmobile!!!!
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Posted - 2006.04.13 08:05:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
Everyone keeps saying the minni one doesn't look crappy enough. Since the crappiness of minni ships comes from low resources of recently being oppressed, I would think enough time has passed and the empire has grown enough that a "NEW" Battleship would appear nicer than the others.
I dunno...
I like the idea of the ship... but the fins are just a bit too much. It looks like a doberman in space.
Originally by: "Oveur"
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Kai Jyokoroi
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Posted - 2006.04.13 08:17:00 -
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Are we looking at the same Minnie battleship here?!
That thing looks ACE!
I started flying a 'phoon for fun recently, and if this is what the final tier 3 Minnie BS design will look like - well, that sells it.
Minmatar skill tree, here I come!
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Chi Prime
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Posted - 2006.04.13 09:20:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Corphus
here somert i made while supposed to be workin : Annihilation Tier 3 BS
those bonuses are sacriledge
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Hutchins
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Posted - 2006.04.13 09:58:00 -
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I really like the Amarr design, and I'm abivalent about the Gallente design. I take issue with the Minmatar design though. Please, give us just one downright scary looking battleship. We've got a tattered steel sailfish and a hollowed out spacelog right now. I'd prefer it to be as utilitarian and ugly as possible. Don't give us Mataris something that could grace the cover of EON. Give us something that will have hostile pilots saying in gang 'God that thing is hideous. Oh, and make sure to stay out of it's targetting range unless you like being in a pod.'
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Posted - 2006.04.13 10:21:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm
The Minmatar are described in the chronicles somewhere (can never find it when I want to post referencing it :P) as being a race just starting to reach for the stars, but exhibiting the best engineering skills seen in the eve galaxy.
They were then reduced practically to rubble by the amarr (who also took a lot of the population for there slave labour) the result was the early minmatar ship designs being made from whatever low-tech parts the matari could scrounge together or build.
It has now been, reportedly over a century since the minmatar rebel forces (combined with the amarr empires defeat at the hands of the jovian directorate) forced the amarr to retreat from what is now known as minmatar space and the matari were able to start rebuilding.
In short, it makes sense that newer ship designs should be a lot cleaner and built in a more orderly fashion, note that they still can't afford to splash out on fancy exteriors, massively thick armour plate and so on .. I personally feel that the new battleship fits fine with all this.
As to what it actually looks like, I think its a bit hard to tell from that picture.
i totally agree, the new BS is the next step in the evolution of Minmatar design and construction, better designed, better built and still showing its Minnie heritage, i love it.
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Corphus
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Posted - 2006.04.13 13:43:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Litus Arowar
Originally by: Corphus
ok here somert i made while supposed to be workin : Annihilation Tier 3 BS
as much as I like the sketch, the fricking stats make me vomit blood... I don't mean make me WANT to vomit blood, I mean I'm currently covered in my own blood which burst forth from my mouth...
if the tier 3 BS goes on this "khanid innovation" idea, it'll be completely and entirely useless
seriously, I'm thinking you might be kidding and I'm overreacting
shield tank with 4 mid slots? missile boat with only 4 launchers? 4 turret mounts with no turret bonuses? holy mother of god, it sure is true to khanid design, IE frickin useless... how you figure that ship could be used is beyond me, other than being fodder for the real ships
em dmg is highly underestimated. another point is that this ship isnt supposed to use a heavy tank like apoc or raven. however u can always switch to armor or even hull tanking via dmg control.
its faster and lighter than all amarr ships making it good for ab/mwd use. u got a rof bonus of 10% making it spam torps and cruise 50% faster at lvl 5. tbh torps at that rof are deadly especially since there only a small amout of ppl who actively tank their armor against EM dmg.
my idea was to create a smaller and more agile skirmish warfare vessel for the amarr which usually use to outtank/ outdmg their enemies. anyway i never flew an amarr ship and therefore this is only an idea to bring in some variation. however the initial idea was not to create a ship which would make the tier 1 and 2 bs lookin weak vs the new tier 3 one.
imo eve should be more tactical and implement all kinds of strategic ideas to make a race good in combat than simply build bigger and stronger ships with more deadly bonuses for their primary weapons.
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.13 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Litus Arowar on 13/04/2006 22:13:10
Corphus, the only reason I'm so against that set of stats is cause such ships exist already... the vengeance and the malediction (AF and inty) most notably... the malediction is useful cause it's the 3-slot inty for amarr, but the vengeance is a paperweight...
now, granted, the speed and agility of your design is a bonus, and it could be effective in combat with short range ammo in the lasers and 4 torp launchers, but generally speaking a split shield/armour design means a ship can do neither tank well... this means that even if your damage is outstanding (especially if your damage is outstanding actually) you'll be called primary and your tank will be tested before your damage really starts to shine
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Kai Jyokoroi
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Posted - 2006.04.14 08:02:00 -
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So totally disappointed at the Gallente design. Instead of making a decent actual ship-shaped design, we get something that looks like it was thrown together in 5 minutes using Bryce. 
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Posted - 2006.04.14 10:26:00 -
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The amarrian one looks sweet as hell. It looks more like a really functional and brutally powerful warship than a symbol of imperial might. It also looks more high-tech, as befits a ship that is presumably a far more recent design than the geddon and the apoc.
Likewise, I love the look of the minmatar ship - it looks sleek and dangerous, like some kind of enormous multi-finned space shark. I'm also loving how it looks that little bit more professionally done than other Minnie ships - as if the Republic's finally got some kind of a centralised and dedicated ship design board set up, and are looking to create something that, despite beind all modern and high-tech, still looks undeniably Minmatar.
Not so keen on the gallente one, but then, I never have like the gallente look quite as much (except in space stations). I reckon it'd look better without the disk in the middle, but with the engines rising out of low-slung blisters on the hull instead.
When do we get to see the Caldari concept? That's the one I'm most interested in.
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Corphus
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Posted - 2006.04.14 12:31:00 -
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ok since work is so boring and the boss isnt around me presses the ms paint activation icon once again ...
i know that ccp will most likely think im an idiot but if the minmatar get one of those ill train minmatar bs to 5 for sure
imo matari ships should look somert like this !
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Jerick Ludhowe
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Posted - 2006.04.14 14:20:00 -
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Wow Corphus, I really like the look of that concept. Has a somewhat streamlined look to it but retains the ruggedness of the minmatar ship design. Reminds me of the Matari Carrier and to a lesser extent the cyclone. With anyluck all future Matari ships will follow this design style. Good work man, that ship looks hot
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Zoon
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Posted - 2006.04.14 14:38:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Corphus
ok since work is so boring and the boss isnt around me presses the ms paint activation icon once again ...
i know that ccp will most likely think im an idiot but if the minmatar get one of those ill train minmatar bs to 5 for sure
imo matari ships should look somert like this !
Me likey
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Posted - 2006.04.14 15:14:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Corphus
ok since work is so boring and the boss isnt around me presses the ms paint activation icon once again ...
i know that ccp will most likely think im an idiot but if the minmatar get one of those ill train minmatar bs to 5 for sure
imo matari ships should look somert like this !
That reminds me of the Battlecruiser from Starcraft.
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Posted - 2006.04.14 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 14/04/2006 15:51:15
Actually, the Minnie BS is growing on me. It's Retro in a way, which is a bit of a step forward technogically speaking that the heavy industrial look they currently have... which makes sense I suppose. Sort of the "futuristic" look you would see on appliances in the 50's and 60's when they were trying to give things a high tech look. All it would need is a bit of chrome thrown on there.
It suggests technological advances for the Matari, but still looks "old school" compared to the other races. Interesting.
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Posted - 2006.04.14 21:27:00 -
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I love the new designs. It will definantly be breath of fresh air seeing more than just the raven and the 3-4 other usual battleships ingame.
I hate to judge the artwork especially since I am no where near able to design something as fancy or originaly as these works of art. In my opinion the gallente BS looks a little bland and/or is missing something. Also I quite dislike the huge fins/solar panels on the minmatar tier 3 battleship. Besides that, they are excellent. The designs surpassed all my hopes for all the new Battleships. Lets just hope the tier 2 battlecruisers and the caldari battleship looks just as great.
Btw I don't see whats all the fuss about the amarr Battleship looking like a freighter and about all the exposed hull.
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Posted - 2006.04.14 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: ZuN3 on 14/04/2006 21:51:19
Edited by: ZuN3 on 14/04/2006 21:50:27
Edited by: ZuN3 on 14/04/2006 21:49:21
Originally by: Corphus
ok since work is so boring and the boss isnt around me presses the ms paint activation icon once again ...
i know that ccp will most likely think im an idiot but if the minmatar get one of those ill train minmatar bs to 5 for sure
imo matari ships should look somert like this !
Nice!
CCP please think about a change of concept artist for the minmmatar tier 3 BS! Or even just give the current one that design, and let him work with that, drawn in more detail, maybe slight tweaks here and there, etc
it incorporates elements of the stabber and other minmatar ships, with a slightly sleeker look, but still with traditional minmatar features, definetly how an 'evolved' modern minmie ship should look.
/me starts a petition to get this design into the game.
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Redmond Fiur
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Posted - 2006.04.14 21:52:00 -
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Amarr: It really is a nice design, though very much like a hotdog.
Minmatar: I love it, I love my bellicose to death and this thing really is what I have always believed the belli shouldve looked like.
Gallente: Very nice, organic feel to it. It remind me alot of some kind of interstellar research vessel, but thats just me. And don't touch that ring! It's the best part of that ship.
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Kadrush
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Posted - 2006.04.18 11:57:00 -
[176]
ETA for Kali? Anyone?
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Chedburn
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Posted - 2006.04.18 12:56:00 -
[177]
Amarr looks kind of like something i saw in starwars - Hmmm.
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Synapse Archae
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Posted - 2006.04.18 14:17:00 -
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I think I'm the only one who doesnt think the amarr one looks amarrian. Amarr ships have always been totally covered in that nice gold armor plating. This one looks like somone gave an apoc to the minmatars, so they just stripped the armor off one of their stations, cut the apoc in 5 pieces and glued them onto the station.
Honestly, more gold armor for the amarr one.
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Posted - 2006.04.18 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Synapse Archae
I think I'm the only one who doesnt think the amarr one looks amarrian. Amarr ships have always been totally covered in that nice gold armor plating. This one looks like somone gave an apoc to the minmatars, so they just stripped the armor off one of their stations, cut the apoc in 5 pieces and glued them onto the station.
Honestly, more gold armor for the amarr one.
You need to expose the power system to space to vent heat from 8 Tacks with 3 Faction Heatsinks while Armor Tanking like a terror. Or do you want to become an boiled egg inside your pod?
Originally by: "Oveur"
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.18 16:14:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Synapse Archae
I think I'm the only one who doesnt think the amarr one looks amarrian. Amarr ships have always been totally covered in that nice gold armor plating. This one looks like somone gave an apoc to the minmatars, so they just stripped the armor off one of their stations, cut the apoc in 5 pieces and glued them onto the station.
Honestly, more gold armor for the amarr one.
You need to expose the power system to space to vent heat from 8 Tacks with 3 Faction Heatsinks while Armor Tanking like a terror. Or do you want to become an boiled egg inside your pod?
or you know, maybe exposing your piping to no atmosphere and only solar radiation would actually heat your ship more than it would cool it? but I suspect you're merely kidding...
still, the amarr design does look wrong, it looks like an open toolbox or something
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Laughlyn Vaughns
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:25:00 -
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i love the minmaatr one, i really hope this will be a final design of it, its nic eto see a ship based around the bellicose and with any luck this could be the type that was talked about for the phoon changes (missile and turret bonii)
u could have it
Hislots 8 - 5turret, 5 missile
Mids- 5
Lo's 5
Drones 100m3
Bonni Range of turrets, missile velocity/flight time
make it a great sniper since bellicose is a longrange type ship.
the fitting was just off my head so dont flame too badly i was just beefing up the bells fittings lol
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Rayzr
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Posted - 2006.04.19 21:11:00 -
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Looking at these ships, I must say that the AMARR tier-3 bs looks awesome. I think the minmatar fits the category quite nicely, especially with the wings/sails all over the place
BUT, when I saw the Gallente bs, I got damn disappointed. I am Gallente pilot specialized in Megathron and would gladly go for the tier-3bs aswell. However, the Gallente tier-3 bs looks terrible, and does not fit the typical "beautiful" design that Gallente ships are known for. If you ask me I would rather have the GALLENTE tier-3 battleship look more like this one:
http://www.asgeirjon.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=8
I think it looks way cooler, and fits the category for gallente briliantly(It would almost be like a giant version of the taranis). So from a very active gallente pilot, I BEG YOU CCP, do not make the gallente tier-3 bs look like it did in that picture.
(I must say, so far, I think several of them had pretty much the same form. the minmatar one looks a little like amarr one, just it's thinner and with wings. and stuff like that. Not as big a difference as f.ex, Megathron/Raven, where megathron is more smoother, longer and not as wide, and where the Raven is whider, with wings to each side and looks more lumpy.)
This is ofc all just my opinions, but I strongly hope someone uses their veto vote to vote against that gal design on the link Gierling put out.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 21:34:00 -
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I like all of these ship designs. The amarr one looks like it is going to fill a role that the current amarr bs' do not, this could be ew or a drone carrier (similar to the domi but much prettier) as others have stated.
The minmatar ship looks exactly like what a brand new bs fresh off the lines from an empire that is now a legitimate power that has the time and resources to build a new bs. That design reflects the minmatar engineering style but appears to have been more carefully desinged and possibly with a bigger budget.
I'm not as much of a fan of the gallente one yet, mostly because I can only see it in this 2D form so far. After looking at the engine array for a bit, it appears that there are four oval engines spread around the center of the ship in a cross like pattern. When we get a better view of this ship I'll be able to form a better opinion of it.
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Posted - 2006.04.19 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rayzr
If you ask me I would rather have the GALLENTE tier-3 battleship look more like this one:
http://www.asgeirjon.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=8
I think it looks way cooler, and fits the category for gallente briliantly(It would almost be like a giant version of the taranis).
if i am not mistaken i believe that is the concept art for the gallente fighter drone called "firbolg" so i dont see that becoming the design for the tier 3 bs anytime soon
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Posted - 2006.04.20 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Litus Arowar
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Synapse Archae
I think I'm the only one who doesnt think the amarr one looks amarrian. Amarr ships have always been totally covered in that nice gold armor plating. This one looks like somone gave an apoc to the minmatars, so they just stripped the armor off one of their stations, cut the apoc in 5 pieces and glued them onto the station.
Honestly, more gold armor for the amarr one.
You need to expose the power system to space to vent heat from 8 Tacks with 3 Faction Heatsinks while Armor Tanking like a terror. Or do you want to become an boiled egg inside your pod?
or you know, maybe exposing your piping to no atmosphere and only solar radiation would actually heat your ship more than it would cool it? but I suspect you're merely kidding...
still, the amarr design does look wrong, it looks like an open toolbox or something
dont need air for cooling, the space shuttle for example uses its cargo bay doors as heat exchangers when in orbit(one of the reasons they are allways open during a mission).
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Posted - 2006.04.21 00:15:00 -
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all great modules, hope they are released soon.
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Posted - 2006.04.25 14:27:00 -
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The Gallente Tier 3 BS looks like a butt plug
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Andrea Jaruwalski
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Posted - 2006.04.25 19:57:00 -
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Yawn.
Caldari Battleship - Added lately.
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Mierella
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:03:00 -
[189]
http://index.echostation.com/frigate.jpg
Minmatar battleship much? O.o
And interesting look on the caldari one.
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Pesadel0
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski
Yawn.
Caldari Battleship - Added lately.
Damm that is one good looking BS there.
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Litus Arowar
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:18:00 -
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the caldari BS looks like a gallente BS more than the gallente one
I guess they're sort of trying to sho an "evolution in design" with the new battleships... the amarr one has a less armoured, more open design, the minmatar is sleeker and less trash-like, the gallente is sprawling rather than looking like a magma blob, and the caldari is more rounded and streamlined
I don't really mind this, if the other models are brought in line with the graphics overhaul, but as is, they'll stick out like sore thumbs
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:29:00 -
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omg <3 amarr one
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: t0bor
Originally by: Rayzr
If you ask me I would rather have the GALLENTE tier-3 battleship look more like this one:
http://www.asgeirjon.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=8
I think it looks way cooler, and fits the category for gallente briliantly(It would almost be like a giant version of the taranis).
if i am not mistaken i believe that is the concept art for the gallente fighter drone called "firbolg" so i dont see that becoming the design for the tier 3 bs anytime soon
Obviously, as the picture says, its the Gallente Carrier, the Thanatos. 
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: CptEagle
Originally by: t0bor
Originally by: Rayzr
If you ask me I would rather have the GALLENTE tier-3 battleship look more like this one:
http://www.asgeirjon.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=8
I think it looks way cooler, and fits the category for gallente briliantly(It would almost be like a giant version of the taranis).
if i am not mistaken i believe that is the concept art for the gallente fighter drone called "firbolg" so i dont see that becoming the design for the tier 3 bs anytime soon
Obviously, as the picture says, its the Gallente Carrier, the Thanatos.
that link used to point to the firbolg, I think something's weird with the sketchbook
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.04.25 21:54:00 -
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Wow, the caldari one is hawt. If something like that comes in game ill be wishing i flew battleships... and caldari ones at that 
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Posted - 2006.04.25 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Pesadel0
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski
Yawn.
Caldari Battleship - Added lately.
Damm that is one good looking BS there.
YES! I was hoping for a design like this with a tall frontage
Excellent job!
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Posted - 2006.04.25 22:55:00 -
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Is it just me or does the Minmattar BS look like their dread?
you have to love the amarr one!
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Aion Amarra
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Posted - 2006.04.26 00:22:00 -
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Someone needs to edit all the link previous to the caldari ones. Since the Caldari BS Concept Art was added at place six, and not at the end of the album, most of the other links now link to another pic, as the numbers are different. Leads to confusion.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 01:46:00 -
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I'm glad I'm training caldari BS 5 now....w00 h000
/laughs at everyone not training caldari BS 5
//apologizes for being rude but continues laughing anyhow
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Redmond Fiur
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Posted - 2006.04.26 01:50:00 -
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mmmm...new caldari ship looks quite nice
Though I would take the new Min BS over any of the others any day.
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Andreask14
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Posted - 2006.04.26 01:52:00 -
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Take a closer look at the caldari one !
MUAHAHAHHA !
Its going to be a rail-boat !
You see all these turrets ?
Lol, ppl will just continue to fly the raven.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 01:58:00 -
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Edited by: keepiru on 26/04/2006 01:58:30
Rail-boats ftw. Thats exactly why I want one.
Missiles have the same effect as valium on me.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 02:50:00 -
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I don't think I care much for the Caldari one, it uh.. I dunno kinda boring, the Minmatar one looks cool. The Amarr one looks weird.. sorta like a huge Auguor. The Gallente looks a lot like the Exequror to me.
A rail caldari battleship might be cool but I'm sure it won't get a damage bonus, optimal + hybrid damage would be cool, but I bet it gets something retarded like optimal + shield resists or something.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 02:59:00 -
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The Caldari battleship looks like an uninspired brick. Where's the demented almost Kilrathi angularity to their ships, where's the asymmetry?
Very depressing.
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.04.26 03:06:00 -
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Seriously Optimal IS a damage bonus, the best one actually.
Antimatter with an optimal of 78 is far more then 25% more damage then the ammo that youd otherwise have to use at that range.
IT will probably be 6 turrets, 7 would be overpowered.
PRoposal to fix blobbing and make Charisma useful.
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Insomnium
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Posted - 2006.04.26 03:10:00 -
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The Minmatar battleship you see there is fresh out the factory, the Minmatar battleships you see flying around have been subjected to countless random collisions in space with 1. Asteroids, 2. other ships, 3. Frozen corpses, and 4. Concord Billboards.
As for it's looks, someone please take out the nerf bat and give it a few ole' whacks? Crap it up. Give it the rugged "Floating Junkyard with Guns" look. Y'know what this does? It inspires me to redesign the Minmatar battleship. I'll post my own design soon.
His concept for the new battleship is still kick @$$ awesome. Props to you.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 03:37:00 -
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The caldari BS looks like a concrete brick. And if its a rail bot i say f*ck it ill just fly my raven.
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Niques Leutre
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Posted - 2006.04.26 04:05:00 -
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Yeah. Caldari ships are more thin and sleek and jaggedy. That concept just looks too blocky, like a Gallente ship but slightly more rectangular.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 04:17:00 -
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Edited by: NoDachi Q on 26/04/2006 04:18:51
Edited by: NoDachi Q on 26/04/2006 04:17:52
The caldari BS looks like... a carrier. Note the flight deck and conning tower? From what I can see, I am thinking a big drone bay, 8 rails, and a hooolllle can of whooparse.
From my point of view, the ship is not symetrical. It looks more like a "T" put on its side than a "+"
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.04.26 04:26:00 -
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Caldari one looks very good, they all do actually. They just don't follow with traditional design very well.. but then again, why would they? Its new technology.
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.04.26 05:45:00 -
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It appears that the gallente battleship link is broken. It is sending me to the gallente carrier concept art.
I remember seeing the Gallente battleship concept, and... fugly.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2006.04.26 06:25:00 -
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The new Caldari railboat looks sweet
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.04.26 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
It appears that the gallente battleship link is broken. It is sending me to the gallente carrier concept art.
I remember seeing the Gallente battleship concept, and... fugly.
The link is to page 8, but instead sends you to image 9. Just use the arrows above the image to go to image 8 (at page 7).
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Posted - 2006.04.26 09:39:00 -
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Wow a Minmartar ship that doesnt look like a pile of junk.
Good work!
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Astrum Ludus
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Posted - 2006.04.26 10:21:00 -
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Caldari finally get a decent looking BS then
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Antaran Karsh
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Posted - 2006.04.26 13:25:00 -
[216]
The Caldari is boxy and symmetric. I LOVE it
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Waut
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Posted - 2006.04.26 13:26:00 -
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Edited by: Waut on 26/04/2006 13:27:22
Wow, the Caldari one looks awesome.
No reason not to train for 425 II's now
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Posted - 2006.04.26 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: Dawson on 26/04/2006 13:42:01
LMAO, thats exactly wot ive started doing was a waste of time till now. Best be a bloody railboat after all the training iam doing now, else i'll have a fit.
Any idea on another requirements for these tier 3 ships?
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Posted - 2006.04.26 15:31:00 -
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What kind of role will the amarr ship have I wonder? I trained some drone skills a long time ago and maybe I can finally put them to use after going Amarr . Maybe it will get Nos bonuses too? muhahahaha!!!
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.04.26 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
It appears that the gallente battleship link is broken. It is sending me to the gallente carrier concept art.
I remember seeing the Gallente battleship concept, and... fugly.
The link is to page 8, but instead sends you to image 9. Just use the arrows above the image to go to image 8 (at page 7).
In fact, theyre on page 1,2,3,4 now.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 15:53:00 -
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looks like the Caldari BS has 8 turrets... peow peow peow PEW PEW PEW!
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:07:00 -
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They *ALL* have 8 turret hardpoints. It probably wont be so once in-game - prelim tier-3 bs data at least has the amarr and caldari ones as 7-turret - but they all look sweet nonetheless, even though id like more angles on the gallente an amarr one... and a little more armor plating on the amarr one :)
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Posted - 2006.04.26 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
They *ALL* have 8 turret hardpoints. It probably wont be so once in-game - prelim tier-3 bs data at least has the amarr and caldari ones as 7-turret - but they all look sweet nonetheless, even though id like more angles on the gallente an amarr one... and a little more armor plating on the amarr one :)
That's odd, because the database dump on current built shows Caldari Tier 3 as a 7 turret ship. Same for the Amarr one.
Where do you get your source to say they're *ALL* 8 turret hardpoints.
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.04.26 18:39:00 -
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..reading comprehension ftw, man... read my post again :)
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Posted - 2006.04.26 18:49:00 -
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caldari one looks so sexy :) despite that ill have phoenix i'm gonna get it :) so it's a railboat, but for blasters or rails :) ?
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Posted - 2006.04.26 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dragy
caldari one looks so sexy :) despite that ill have phoenix i'm gonna get it :) so it's a railboat, but for blasters or rails :) ?
Good question actually, I just assummed a sniper...
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Posted - 2006.04.26 19:23:00 -
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Some thing tells me flying a box like the caldari BS would be a bit square it would be cool if they inverted it and threw the brige to the front
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.26 20:27:00 -
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why is the gal one so fugly
Originally by: Tamora
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StarLite
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Posted - 2006.04.26 20:43:00 -
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The Caldari Tier3 looks like the carrier, you sure it isn't?
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Posted - 2006.04.26 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Waut
Edited by: Waut on 26/04/2006 13:27:22
Wow, the Caldari one looks awesome.
No reason not to train for 425 II's now
funny, i made same decission soon as i saw the pic 
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Posted - 2006.04.26 21:16:00 -
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wonder how will be with cpu with new caldari bs ... heard that its pain for mega to fit blasters so what will be with caldari bs which shield tanks ?
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Twin blade
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Posted - 2006.04.26 21:26:00 -
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OH man that Caldari Battleship pic is so sexy i love it i would delete my 7 month sold player just to be a caldari for that 1 ship alone.
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Morgana Janan
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Posted - 2006.04.26 21:28:00 -
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Anyone else notice how all the ships seem like they're designed for lateral combat? I'm just getting a whole "ships-of-the-line" vibe off the Amarr, Minmatar, and Caldari ships, like they're meant to be exchanging broadsides. Maybe it's just me, but I can see these guys forming into battle lines.
Incidently, the new Caldari ship isn't quite symatrical. Judging by it, it looks like that block is on the main line of the ship while some sort of platform or deck extends off one side (the side facing us in the picture) with the command tower. Still love it. It's big and monolithic. Almost makes me wish I'd decided to fly Caldari ships. :)
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Posted - 2006.04.26 21:29:00 -
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Caldari BS looks awesome. /starts training Caldari BS V
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Twin blade
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Posted - 2006.04.26 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Morgana Janan
Anyone else notice how all the ships seem like they're designed for lateral combat? I'm just getting a whole "ships-of-the-line" vibe off the Amarr, Minmatar, and Caldari ships, like they're meant to be exchanging broadsides. Maybe it's just me, but I can see these guys forming into battle lines.
Looked like there based on WW2 warships witch would go broadside and pound the hell out of the enemy.
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2006.04.26 21:46:00 -
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omfg caldari one looks like the ship of my DREAMS. I just hope that both bonuses will be for turrets and not one for shields.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: Krulla on 26/04/2006 21:54:12
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
omfg caldari one looks like the ship of my DREAMS. I just hope that both bonuses will be for turrets and not one for shields.
I'd put my money in 10% hybrid optimal and 5% shield resistance per level.. would follow the Merlin > Moa > Ferox > CaldariBslevel3 line, which would make the most sense.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 23:00:00 -
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The railboat looks great but there's one issue I'm worried about: Whatever bonuses the Caldari one gets will more than likely make it the ultimate blasterboat . . . Especially given that blasters are allegedly getting a tracking boost and reduced fittings.
I don't want the Megathron to be totally obsoslete
Ah well, we'll just have to see what they cook up.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 23:02:00 -
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Edited by: Thor Belfry on 26/04/2006 23:04:10
Originally by: Killer Dragon
Originally by: Krulla
Edited by: Krulla on 26/04/2006 21:54:12
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
omfg caldari one looks like the ship of my DREAMS. I just hope that both bonuses will be for turrets and not one for shields.
I'd put my money in 10% hybrid optimal and 5% shield resistance per level.. would follow the Merlin > Moa > Ferox > CaldariBslevel3 line, which would make the most sense.
Agrees.
It would be insane and the other Tier 3 BSs would have to compensate that =) Which would make them even more insane ^^ I don't like the way they have split the caldari race to 2 weapon systems which cant be combined properly. But I think I speak for everybody when I say that Missiles aren't really a viable fleet weapon system =) maybe if you can hold down your enemy all the time but current fleets don't allow for that in a sense. I look forward to Caldari Tier 3 =)
Caldari ships will never as it currently looks be ultimate blaster boat just look at the scorp and raven they are the heaviest and next to heaviest together with arma =) Don't think caldari will have the cap or the slots for a mwd + shield tank + webber + scrambler + injector :)
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Posted - 2006.04.27 21:14:00 -
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bump and question : when exactly will tier 3 bs's and tier 2 bc's come to tq ;P ? and when will we have that sisi server back :( ? maybe both at a same time ;P ?
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Posted - 2006.04.27 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Dragy
bump and question : when exactly will tier 3 bs's and tier 2 bc's come to tq ;P ? and when will we have that sisi server back :( ? maybe both at a same time ;P ?
keiron did say in some post that kali was slated for q2 of 2006 so thats april, may, june but nouthing officialy official yet.
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Posted - 2006.04.27 22:07:00 -
[242]
Originally by: DARTHMAUL sith
Originally by: Dragy
bump and question : when exactly will tier 3 bs's and tier 2 bc's come to tq ;P ? and when will we have that sisi server back :( ? maybe both at a same time ;P ?
keiron did say in some post that kali was slated for q2 of 2006 so thats april, may, june but nouthing officialy official yet.
darth
You won't see Kali until atleast Q3 I'd bet my bottom dollar. And that is if you are lucky. I'd say a september launch at minumum.
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Posted - 2006.04.27 23:35:00 -
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That Caldari BS is my new desktop :)
too bad I like beam lasers more than railguns...
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Caer Lakief
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Posted - 2006.04.28 01:21:00 -
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I don't know about the thruster ring on the Gallente ship. It doesn't seem appropriate right there, perhaps farther back then taking up the rest of the rear end of the ship with thrusters. However the others are spot on, they have a bit more of an interstellar battleship feel to them.
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Naskaya
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Posted - 2006.04.28 01:35:00 -
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\o/ great design for the naw caldari BS \o/
Now we have our sort of Tempest, too
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Sylaera Nightwish
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Posted - 2006.11.08 01:30:00 -
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I don't like the gallente design. Course i don't like most of the Gallente design ships. But as far as the Tier 3 BS's, the Gallente Concept doenst look that good.
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Posted - 2006.11.08 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sylaera Nightwish
I don't like the gallente design. Course i don't like most of the Gallente design ships. But as far as the Tier 3 BS's, the Gallente Concept doenst look that good.
Know what I don't like? Necros. The ships are in game, let this thread die.
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Posted - 2006.11.08 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: Sylaera Nightwish on 08/11/2006 02:16:57
Originally by: Dahak2150
Originally by: Sylaera Nightwish
I don't like the gallente design. Course i don't like most of the Gallente design ships. But as far as the Tier 3 BS's, the Gallente Concept doenst look that good.
Know what I don't like? Necros. The ships are in game, let this thread die.
The Hyperion isn't yet. They are still using the Megathron model till the new one is done.. so I'm told they are still working on it.
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