They're trying to make every player the 'chosen one' in TES tradition yet they forgot that something like that doesn't work in an MMO setting. Voiceovers are great, but the story itself is crap.

On the plus side, the Khajit characters looked awesome.
But everything else was so generic I got bored within the first hour or so...

So what is Ripard on about the? http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2014/02/i-stereotype-its-faster.html

Think of the MMOs you've played with a main storyline. Do any of those storylines even acknowledge the existence of the other players ?

Because I can't think of any. All the storylines I know don't. There are always named NPCs that you have to kill off, then the story treats them as permanently dead. You are the one who killed them. As far as the storyline is concerned, other players don't exist.

I've seen MMOs that don't even acknowledge the existence of other party members. For example, one storyline mission in GW2 has you getting into a duel with an NPC. If you go into the mission with other players in your party, then all the NPCs still think this is a 1v1 dual even when the other players are assisting you.

1. Doesn't feel like a elderscrolls game at all, it's more of a WOW clone with elderscrolls artwork and lore. (Not that anyone really expected it to be anything different.)

I think this is the game's saving grace and biggest problem. It'll sell well and live on because the series' name alone carries so much weight, but at the same time the series is a lot more than just a name. I think a ton of people are going to go in expecting a "traditional" Elder Scrolls game set in an persistent, online experience, but leave disappointed when all they get is this thing that desperately wants to be Elder Scrolls game, but sadly isn't.

3. There are no "working" pure classes, you are forced to multi-class or be gimped into oblivion (No pun intended.) This is due to VERY low stat caps and armor caps. A pure tank for example is impossible, that guy who is half mage dps, and half tank is every bit as much a tank as you while also being a dps mage.

This is probably the best feature with the entire game. So much customization that many other games have failed to deliver. It is not wow where you go cookie cutter spec and do exactly the same thing as the player besides you.
The ESO class system is more like eve's char progression. Which I think is awesome.

This is probably the best feature with the entire game. So much customization that many other games have failed to deliver. It is not wow where you go cookie cutter spec and do exactly the same thing as the player besides you.
The ESO class system is more like eve's char progression. Which I think is awesome.

EVE character system has very little to do with any MMO class system. The equivalent of that in EVE would be ship types. The idea is to allow people to gain access to every "class", but still limit their abilities to a somewhat predictable set each time they undock and specialization is certainly awarded. It also guarantees a large variation in ship types and fits from an overall perspective. ESO will have this too whether it wants to or not. It'll just be achieved through optimal equipment set requirements found through experimentation and not on character abilities. You can opt not to do it like you can opt to dual tank your ships or fit close and long range weapons on the same hull, but in reality some things will just work better and the mass will always move towards that. It's not a bad thing either. Either you have builds or equipment sets that are simply better at a job or your entire system is basically meaningless and everyone is the same as everyone else.

TESO just seems like it'll be the first game in the series that I'll take a pass on. It's a shame too because once this inevitably flops after a couple of months or so we might just never see another proper single-player TES game.

This is being made by a different studio than the one who does the main entries so if this flops, only this studio will get canned. Either way, the mainline Elder Scrolls games are such huge moneymakers that even if this did turn out to be a colossal flop and was being made by the same studio that makes the main games, they still wouldn't stop making Elder Scrolls games. Waaaaaay too much money to walk away from.

5. Is a triple wallet dipper. Box price + sub fee + cash shop after launch.

Will expansions have to be paid for as well?

Instead we get a game that wanted to be called DAoC2 but got a TES title forced on it.

I'd say the only MMO to get it right in the last few years is The Secret World.

ESO wants.

imo, all they had to do, was to release the next game in the series with added
co-op mode for up to 8 players.

Instead of going all out developing a brand new mmo.

I had a hard time getting over the character animation and the way clothing wears on the character. I had just come from playing Rift which had awesome character animation and the clothing loked like clothing, not spandex metal plate.

Looks like they didnt even bother with motion capture for the character animations.

Another thing..you cant swim underwater.

So overall "meh."

Let's also consider a moment the timing of the comments made in this thread. Reviews based on a beta... The game has not even released yet and people are calling it a flop. Gamers are literally the worst people in the history of humanity I swear.

ESO release date is less than a month away (April 4th.) There's not a lot that can be changed before release.

]WoW - sub fee and wildly successful.
Eve - sub fee and mildly successful and growing.

Let's also consider a moment the timing of the comments made in this thread. Reviews based on a beta... The game has not even released yet and people are calling it a flop. Gamers are literally the worst people in the history of humanity I swear.