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Lidia Caderu
Harbingers of Chaos Inc The East India Co.
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Posted - 2014.02.16 17:24:00 -
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Currently we have ore holds and mineral holds in industrial ships its very nice.
How about adding hold for packed ships and drones. Approx capacity at L5 = 70k m3 = BS + BC |

Lakshata Chawla
Blue-Fire
90
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Posted - 2014.02.16 20:59:00 -
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Lidia Caderu wrote:Currently we have ore holds and mineral holds in industrial ships its very nice.
How about adding hold for packed ships and drones. Approx capacity at L5 = 70k m3 = BS + BC We have regular haulers for that, or SMA's in capitals. |

Lidia Caderu
Harbingers of Chaos Inc The East India Co.
24
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Posted - 2014.02.16 23:25:00 -
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Regular have too small hold, carriers not for hi-sec. |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
4889
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Posted - 2014.02.16 23:33:00 -
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Orca. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

Alundil
Sky Fighters
403
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Posted - 2014.02.17 03:01:00 -
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This
But support ops idea anyway because killmails. Clone mechanics enchancements Deep Space Probe Revival |

Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
127
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Posted - 2014.02.17 04:32:00 -
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Alundil wrote:This But support ops idea anyway because killmails.
Freighter. |

Crazy Dave
Nerotic Transport Corp
4
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Posted - 2014.02.17 04:58:00 -
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Lidia Caderu wrote:Regular have too small hold, carriers not for hi-sec.
An Orca carries ships nicely in highsec. |

Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
127
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Posted - 2014.02.17 05:52:00 -
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Kaerakh wrote:Alundil wrote:This But support ops idea anyway because killmails. Freighter.
Red Frog. |

Vesan Terakol
Sad Face Enterprises
38
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Posted - 2014.02.17 06:14:00 -
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There is a reason this is not allowed, which is related to getting battleships into smaller class wormholes too easily. A ship, which can enter a C1, should not be able to carry inside a battleship. |

Catherine Laartii
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
70
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Posted - 2014.02.17 07:24:00 -
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I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance? |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2472
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Posted - 2014.02.17 12:51:00 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance?
So an orca then. |

Claud Tiberius
Falcon United
8
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Posted - 2014.02.17 13:27:00 -
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I would love to be able to separate a part of the hold and designate it as 'ammo storage' (or any other storage type I want).
In other words, having separate windows for some item groups.
That way I won't accidentally sell the ammo...
I know its not changing space. Its just easier management. |

Gawain Edmond
Angry Mustellid
55
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Posted - 2014.02.17 13:43:00 -
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but the orca is a ship used by pirates so they don't have to dock up to re-ship to gank people it needs to be like the orca have half the bass twice the agility a tenth of the cost and twice the size of hold and you can't fit ships in it if you're in a gang with someone who's ever had a negative sec status change cause pirates are bad oh and it needs to have the tank of a carrier |

Kasife Vynneve
Nourwolf Corporation Fortis Et Certus
17
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Posted - 2014.02.17 13:45:00 -
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I carry small crates around for things like that in addition to the other fittings that I use on the ship at any given time |

Lidia Caderu
Harbingers of Chaos Inc The East India Co.
24
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Posted - 2014.02.17 14:01:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance? So an orca then.
Too expansive, too slow, need lots of skills, same for freighter. |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2473
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Posted - 2014.02.17 14:20:00 -
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Lidia Caderu wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance? So an orca then. Too expansive, too slow, need lots of skills, same for freighter.
So you want something that does what an orca does, with no training or cost involved, and you think this is balanced because...? |

Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
163
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Posted - 2014.02.17 15:12:00 -
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17 Days to get into an orca.
It's a substantial investment (isk wise), but it's also a risk to fly - so, theoretically you don't have a bunch of new players jumping into them and hauling obscene amounts of ISK through space and getting blapped.
I'm not seeing the need you've outlined. |

Lidia Caderu
Harbingers of Chaos Inc The East India Co.
24
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Posted - 2014.02.17 21:24:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Lidia Caderu wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance? So an orca then. Too expansive, too slow, need lots of skills, same for freighter. So you want something that does what an orca does, with no training or cost involved, and you think this is balanced because...?
well for some reason CCP made all those specific Holds in indy ships, and that made life MUCH easier. Everything can potencially be carried in orca or in freighter... |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1794
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Posted - 2014.02.17 21:38:00 -
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OP is asking for packed ships.
Industrials are large enough for that. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Catherine Laartii
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
72
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Posted - 2014.02.17 21:52:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:I would be amenable to that, with the exception that the mass and material cost for the 'Hauler' type industrials to be a bit closer to battlecruisers, including hull hp. Separating the gap between the fast couriers and the heavy haulers would be ideal indeed. Perhaps they could set this up in conjunction with the t2 indy rebalance? So an orca then.
Orca has its own roles that it fills quite nicely. For the rest of us that don't feel like shelling out over half a billion isk to move our stuff, this thread is discussing balance changes to ships you might have flown. They're called industrials, and while their rebalance was nice, they could still use a little work. |
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