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Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:36:00 -
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I found some very interesting info on Somer Blink while browsing around. I'm sure a lot of you already know the dangers of Somer Blink, but for those that don't, you should really check out this site.
http://blinkexposed.blogspot.com/
Be sure to check out the links on "Shill Players" and ABSOLUTELY look at the "Explanations" link.
I wouldn't have thought much of it if i hadn't been browsing the winners section for some of the big wins and found a character only 25 days old winning a VERY lucrative blink and thought it odd.
The details you'll find on this site can be easily verified by searching the characters in-game yourself and if you do take a moment to check the details of some of these characters and their winnings on Somer Blink, you'll start to see some STRANGELY lucky new players and just odd facts that seem fortunately coincidental for these "lucky winners".
I'm 105% convinced that Somer Blink is a scam and i simply won't put any money into it and will try to raise awareness of EVE's longest lasting and most convincing ISK scam. |

Veritaal
Veri-Tech Tax Haven
44
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:41:00 -
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I think most people know that Somer Blink is a rigged game.
But regular players do win a LOT of stuff off of it as well, so I don't think you will be hurting their business anytime soon.
On the bright side though, Somer is helping EvE's inflation rate by keeping his zillions of ISK off the market. |

Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:45:00 -
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Well, you can't have everyone lose every time. Then nobody would play. But it's obvious that when it comes to the big prizes, the winners are rigged.
The "code" they use to determine winners can be manipulated on their side, which allows them to determine who wins.
This is how they keep making trillions while keeping people believing that they're a legit lottery.
And also, i really don't think most people know it's rigged. I've already spoken to over a dozen people who think it's legit., but in all factuality, it's not. |

Mac Tir
State War Academy Caldari State
133
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:47:00 -
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Enough already |

Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:49:00 -
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Mac Tir wrote:Enough already
Why? I'm not bothering you. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
256
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:53:00 -
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News Flash: Eve player scams other Eve players for ISK.
No way. I'm really shocked.
I think your about 6 months too late to whip up rage. Tired story is tired. |

Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:56:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:News Flash: Eve player scams other Eve players for ISK.
No way. I'm really shocked.
I think your about 6 months too late to whip up rage. Tired story is tired.
lol, you're not even a good troll.
The point isn't to "whip up rage" or be shocked that there are scams happening. The point is to raise awareness that it is a scam and deter players who think otherwise from dumping massive amounts of ISK into it thinking they stand a chance because they did the math to think they had the best probability to win. |

Mac Tir
State War Academy Caldari State
133
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:58:00 -
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Malphas Vynneve wrote:Mac Tir wrote:Enough already Why? I'm not bothering you.
For your next piece of groundbreaking research, please describe how Goons control Eve/CCP/The US Military |

Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:00:00 -
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Mac Tir wrote:Malphas Vynneve wrote:Mac Tir wrote:Enough already Why? I'm not bothering you. For your next piece of groundbreaking research, please describe how Goons control Eve/CCP/The US Military
lol, get back under your bridge. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
256
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:03:00 -
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[quote=Malphas Vynneve]lol. Your not even a good troll/quote]
No and I glad for it. You on the other hand aren't a good troll either, but a troll you still are.
This story is both obvious and very, very old and tired. The threadnaughts from just a few months ago are still fresh in everyone's minds. |

mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
605
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:05:00 -
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This sounds like the typical **** that gamblers and poker players come up with when they lose their money on a game designed to take all of your money with 100% certainty given enough time.
Maybe it's true, but regardless, anyone playing for anything more than a bit of fun needs to seriously re-evaluate their decisions. The prizes are worth less than the total sale price of the tickets, it's a losing game, every time. |

Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:08:00 -
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I've checked out all the current big winners in Somer Blink. Bloodraven22, Replacement 234 (who is also on the most blinks won AND most achievements), Featious (also on most blinks won and most achievements), Sho Mieyli, and DoomViper.
Most of them look like alts and half of them under a year old. Replacement22, who is under a year old, has a forum post about not having enough isk early on, then all the sudden, is rich via blink.
A lot of just strange looking stuff.
I wonder... How do i sign up to be a Blink shill player? lol |

Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:09:00 -
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mechtech wrote:This sounds like the typical **** that gamblers and poker players come up with when they lose their money on a game designed to take all of your money with 100% certainty given enough time.
Maybe it's true, but regardless, anyone playing for anything more than a bit of fun needs to seriously re-evaluate their decisions. The prizes are worth less than the total sale price of the tickets, it's a losing game, every time.
lol, i knew someone like you would show up and try to tell me i lost all my money to blink and am now butthurt, but as this is not the case, i am just as quick to dismiss you.
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Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:11:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Malphas Vynneve wrote:lol. Your not even a good troll No and I glad for it. You on the other hand aren't a good troll either, but a troll you still are. This story is both obvious and very, very old and tired. The threadnaughts from just a few months ago are still fresh in everyone's minds. PS. Just because people have a different view doesn't make them a troll.
It's not even that i have a different opinion than you. You clearly have no opinion, except to come here and say i'm dragging on a worn out topic.
Sure, call me a troll, it's cool, but you can't stop me from trying to raise awareness about Somer Blink. You can only sit there and complain that i'm doing it.
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Isus Jarode
Sons of Ivaldi Zero Hour Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:13:00 -
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Wait: so you offer this evidence, but when people disagree with you or offer criticism you deadpan them as trolls in a condescending tone?
And I'm supposed to be persuaded by you?
Sorry, but you've already lost me. |

Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
120
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:18:00 -
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So you-Śre saying, when I gamble with money I will lose money and that the house always wins.
Thanks Captain! |

Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:20:00 -
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Isus Jarode wrote:Wait: so you offer this evidence, but when people disagree with you or offer criticism you deadpan them as trolls in a condescending tone?
And I'm supposed to be persuaded by you?
Sorry, but you've already lost me.
lol, ok first of all, how does one post a message in the form of words without speech... in a condescending tone?
Also, you miss EVERYTHING i'm saying entirely.
I offer you the tools to do your own research. I don't have to convince you of anything, except to rip off the mask of ignorance and investigate for yourself.
If you found undeniable evidence that it's not a scam, then by all means, prove me wrong. |

Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:22:00 -
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Charlie Firpol wrote:So you-Śre saying, when I gamble with money I will lose money and that the house always wins.
Thanks Captain!
lol, in general, that is quite true, but with Somer Blink, it's more than that. With these big blinks, people think they can buy a percentage of tickets to increase their probability of winning, when in fact, the code that determines winners are rigged on their side, so you actually just waste a lot of ISK to lose a lottery that by probability, you should have won. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
256
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:23:00 -
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Malphas Vynneve wrote:...but you can't stop me from trying to raise awareness about Somer Blink. You can only sit there and complain that i'm doing it.
Everyone who reads GD already had a high awareness of issues around SomerBLINK. This has been covered in great depth recently.
So as soon as this thread falls off the first page your attempt to raise awareness will fade and people will have to us the search function to find relevant entries. As soon as they do, your thread will be lost amongst the much more detailed and entertaining threads we had through the recent summer.
So unless you plan to keep this thread on the front page forever, you are doing little to add to the mountain of discussion already present. If you want to drive traffic to your blog, go write something new rather than just rehashing obvious stories.
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Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
10
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:27:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Malphas Vynneve wrote:...but you can't stop me from trying to raise awareness about Somer Blink. You can only sit there and complain that i'm doing it.
Everyone who reads GD already had a high awareness of issues around SomerBLINK. This has been covered in great depth recently. So as soon as this thread falls off the first page your attempt to raise awareness will fade and people will have to us the search function to find relevant entries. As soon as they do, your thread will be lost amongst the much more detailed and entertaining threads we had through the recent summer. So unless you plan to keep this thread on the front page forever, you are doing little to add to the mountain of discussion already present. If you want to drive traffic to your blog, go write something new rather than just rehashing obvious stories.
I see that you're quite upset with me, lol.
Honestly, i don't care about what you find amusing or entertaining. It doesn't affect you at all to see this thread on the first page and i have no interest in "driving traffic" to my blog.
Again, all you can do is sit there and complain about my presence. Keep in mind, this isn't about you. It's about all the people who would otherwise be wise in strategically purchasing lottery tickets in order to have probability on their side. |

Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
759
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:33:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:News Flash: Eve player scams other Eve players for ISK.
No way. I'm really shocked.
I think your about 6 months too late to whip up rage. Tired story is tired.
It doesn't hurt to repeat rigged game is rigged for the benefit of new players every now and then.
Also a good place for players to learn about all the reasons why if they get hooked on things like blink, to not subsequently go do similar things with not-simulated money.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
256
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:35:00 -
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Malphas Vynneve wrote:I see that you're quite upset with me, lol.
No, not upset by you specifically at all. The Somer issue however reached saturation in GD some time ago. There was no need for a new thread on this topic (CCP really should make that "New Topic" button less visible) when there are a mountain of existing threads that contain the same information.
Quote:It's about all the people who would otherwise be wise in strategically purchasing lottery tickets in order to have probability on their side.
What? "people who would otherwise be wise in strategically purchasing lottery tickets". Maybe it's the wording, but that is difficult to make sense of and I'm a native English speaker. I suspect that people who read this forum with English as a second language will be totally lost by that sentence. |

Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
10
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:40:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Malphas Vynneve wrote:I see that you're quite upset with me, lol. No, not upset by you specifically at all. The Somer issue however reached saturation in GD some time ago. There was no need for a new thread on this topic (CCP really should make that "New Topic" button less visible) when there are a mountain of existing threads that contain the same information. Quote:It's about all the people who would otherwise be wise in strategically purchasing lottery tickets in order to have probability on their side. What? "people who would otherwise be wise in strategically purchasing lottery tickets". Maybe it's the wording, but that is difficult to make sense of and I'm a native English speaker. I suspect that people who read this forum with English as a second language will be totally lost by that sentence.
Tauranon's comment completely covers what i would have said about the first part of that.
Secondly, let me rephrase, even though i'm pretty sure this sentence was constructed correctly. -It's about all the people who, in any legitimate lottery, would be wise to buy a percentage of the available tickets so that they would have the probability of winning.
Did i make that easier for you? |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
256
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:48:00 -
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Malphas Vynneve wrote:Did i make that easier for you?
Sure, but for people with English as a second language, it's probably better and simpler to write:
"This is for players who might buy lots of tickets to give themselves the best chance of winning. Really, they have almost no chance of winning the major draws and are wasting money. My article explains why."
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Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
6165
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:50:00 -
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Malphas Vynneve wrote: stuff.
I wonder... How do i sign up to be a Blink shill player? lol
Send me Cake, Bacon and 2billion isk.
I like Battleships. Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Carmen Electra - You are also on my block list. |

Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
11
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:50:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Malphas Vynneve wrote:Did i make that easier for you? Sure, but for people with English as a second language, it's probably better and simpler to write: "This is for players who might buy lots of tickets to give themselves the best chance of winning. Really, they have almost no chance of winning the major draws and are wasting money. My article explains why."
Thank you for assisting me with being more communicable with non-english speaking patrons of EVE. I'm glad we're on the same side now.
I don't have enough fuel for these drama cynos.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:51:00 -
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Well....
I've won more than I've lost, so I don't care... |

Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
11
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:52:00 -
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Tollen Gallen wrote:Malphas Vynneve wrote: stuff.
I wonder... How do i sign up to be a Blink shill player? lol Send me Cake, Bacon and 2billion isk. I like Battleships.
Mmmm, cake and bacon. Sounds like my usual saturday nights, except there's usually a bear wandering around and someone's missing a hand.
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Malphas Vynneve
The New Gallentean Combine Brave Collective
11
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Posted - 2014.02.16 22:54:00 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:Well....
I've won more than I've lost, so I don't care...
Surprisingly enough, so have i, but then, i've only played the blinks for the cheapest frigs in order to get promo blinks. I'd just about have to say that the only legit blinks are the super cheap ones, because they probably don't care about those.
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Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
759
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Posted - 2014.02.16 23:25:00 -
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Malphas Vynneve wrote:BrundleMeth wrote:Well....
I've won more than I've lost, so I don't care... Surprisingly enough, so have i, but then, i've only played the blinks for the cheapest frigs in order to get promo blinks. I'd just about have to say that the only legit blinks are the super cheap ones, because they probably don't care about those.
Blink prices include a house margin. ie it is possible to "win more than you lost", and still have lost.
I randomly glanced over their current offerings, fleet pest offered at 391 on blink, where best sell order is 343, and even jita is only 373. Firetail, up for 13.7 when sell orders in jita are 10.9 etc.
ie their margins run from 5% to 25% on jita prices, and probably reliably above 10% given they have sufficient buying and delivering volume to justify buying from all hubs.
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