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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mak'shar Karrde
Originally by: Arele [snip...] but if they're having fun at the end of the day, who the hell cares what they are doing.
I only care if someone tries to enforce their prejudices on me.
I have no problem at all with someone declaring that they're afraid of entering low security space. They can stay in high security and I will think no less of them. It's only when they try and change the mechanics of the game, to suit their playstyle, that I will get frustrated.
Basically... Play however you wish, but understand the limitations of your playstyle choice beforehand and don't try and change things to your benefit afterwards. If you need the Devs to change the game before you can have fun; you should just accept that EVE is not the game for you. Otherwise: Have fun, good luck and happy hunting.
But why would you play that way? Why limit your self. Why play a game when so much of the content occurs in areas you won't go. Heck why play a game, in which you will never reach the 'top levels' because you won't risk participating in a core element of the game?
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: djNME Do me a favour, leave real life out of this you punk.If we broguht real life into it, after taking your order i would make you my *****.
Ah, so I was right! Still, don't fool yourself on that last part. I'm not just all brains, you know. 
Quote: You know I bet I make more money in one year than you do in ten my friend.
What burger joint pays 10 times more than a dialysis technician makes?
Quote: See i'm not on forums trying ot win arguments with makling fun of grammar.
Then why did you feel a need to correct the spelling of another poster? You're clearly not trying to win arguments with reason or coherent thought, either... so one wonders: What, exactly, are you doing here?
Quote: So back on topic, nice picking a game that is made for PVP..that revolves around PVP.Everything in this game represents PVP in some way.
Way to miss the point of the entire thread. Sadly, you're wrong. Care to tell me how agent missions, for instance, "represent PvP"? You'd really have to reach to answer that one adequately. - - - - - "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown |

djNME
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
what he said
Just like the asshat said lorth... If he went to buffet does he have to try everything?..no.Then like I said he brings in the gheyest real world things into this game.
If you went to same buffet every day, had the same exact thing then yes!!!Your limiting yourself in many ways.Can you seem to grasp this concept mr uber smart?
I bet not, lets hear how somethign else in RL pertains to this game... lol.
djNME
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth Heck why play a game, in which you will never reach the 'top levels' because you won't risk participating in a core element of the game?
Who appointed those accomplishments as the "top levels"? They're only the pinnacle of achievement to those who play a particular way. To the rest of us, they're not the be-all and end-all of EVE. - - - - - "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown |

Lorth
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Corunna ElMan
What burger joint pays 10 times more than a dialysis technician makes?
Back to winning arguments through insults and flames I see. You've even insulted him in RL good job, no one can ever win against supperiour logic such as that.
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: djNME Then like I said he brings in the gheyest real world things into this game.
Hey, I'm not the one who wants to make other men my *****. 
How much "gheyer" can you get than that? - - - - - "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown |

Mak'shar Karrde
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:19:00 -
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Quote: But why would you play that way? Why limit your self. Why play a game when so much of the content occurs in areas you won't go. Heck why play a game, in which you will never reach the 'top levels' because you won't risk participating in a core element of the game?
That was merely my stance on people choosing to play the game a certain way. I can't answer your specific question because that's not how I play the game. I spend a lot of my time in low sec. I'm a proud member of UKC and LV, I love the alliance game.
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth Back to winning arguments through insults and flames I see.
You still haven't told me about any one of those "many" games that offer everything EVE does, without the PvP.
- - - - - "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown |

djNME
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:22:00 -
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Originally by: Corunna ElMan
I'm a noobie
Agent mission who do you think they sell their loot to most of the time?lol. very simple really.Missions drop bpo's....tech II.Those are used for...faction ships.. do I need to go on noobie?
If you want to throw around assumptions go ahead.It only makes you look like an asshat.I make mroe money than you do per year and again I bet you failt o make what I do every ten.Anyone that knows me knows this, but I don't have to prove it to a ***** like you.
Though there is something I would like to prove to snotty little *****s like you.Though I think I have proven that point many times over in life.
So again your lame, your in GAME that revolves around PVP.. so do me favour. quote some more and try to be witty..at least you seem to impress yourself.Most the rest of us your just annoying and showing your true colors.
djNME
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Corunna ElMan
Originally by: Lorth Heck why play a game, in which you will never reach the 'top levels' because you won't risk participating in a core element of the game?
Who appointed those accomplishments as the "top levels"? They're only the pinnacle of achievement to those who play a particular way. To the rest of us, they're not the be-all and end-all of EVE.
Accepting that the top levels are only availible in 'risky' ares should be self explaintory. You make more isk, take greater risks. And considering the focus of the game is player compitition, one would assume that the high levels of the game, are found, generally, in areas where that happens the most, namely low sec, and to a greater extent 0.0. While the content availible in high sec, generally is focused around PVE, which is developed much more in other games, and has not been on the same level as player content according to CCP.
They are not achievment for only certain play styles. I'm hard pressed to think of a career in eve, that isn't done at a higher level, with more reward, and risk, outside of hgih security space
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: djNME Agent mission who do you think they sell their loot to most of the time?
What I can't use, I can always reprocess to use for building ships.
Quote: I make mroe money than you do per year and again I bet you failt o make what I do every ten.
OK, if you say so. How about you spend a little of that vast fortune on learning to read and write?
Can you imagine how much more money you could make if your writing didn't give the impression that you're recovering from a serious head injury?
Quote: Though there is something I would like to prove to snotty little *****s like you.
Oh yes, I remember that part. Is that the part where you make other men your *****es?  - - - - - "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown |

Lorth
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Corunna ElMan
Originally by: Lorth Back to winning arguments through insults and flames I see.
You still haven't told me about any one of those "many" games that offer everything EVE does, without the PvP.
I offered two. Which provide simular content to whats availible in high sec, in EVE> If you are asking for an exact clone of EVE, with out the PVP then I'm afraid your out of luck, though you know this as well as I do.
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djNME
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:32:00 -
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this guys is lame.. and is going to keep using the lamest excuse for amounting to nothing in EVE.As on poster said he can run around knifing people in CS getting shyt for a kill to loss ratio...maybe thats his fun.I wouldn't say he is playing the game..but in a way he still would be.1 kill vs 50 deaths i guess can be fun?Thats what this guy is like in EVE. 1 kill 50 losses.So much he has to try and insult someone that makes more money than him with fast food jokes.
You know Though I figure even a muppet once asked 10 times could tell us why he likes to knife only in CS.The difference is this muppet one can't answer us.
Your not in the news for CCP, you suck.No one has ever heard of you.The list goes on about why your having no impact or not going to ever WIN anything in EVE really.So sit in your station and spin your ship little man..i hope you enjoy ever last minute of it.
djNME
p.s. If I find your in noobie corp when I get in game i'll be dissapointed.
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth [I'm hard pressed to think of a career in eve, that isn't done at a higher level, with more reward, and risk, outside of hgih security space
I won't disagree with that. I will simply state that some people don't feel a need to go that far and are capable of having a great time without it.
It's the difference between a pastime and an obsession, basically. My satisfaction in the game is based on my own accomplishments, not on being better than someone else.
Is it possible that I might accomplish more if I ventured into low-sec? Without a doubt. But as long as low-sec is populated by people like djNME who feel a need to turn a game into an e-p33n measuring contest, I can do without it. People who lack the basic characteristic of sporting conduct in a game do not enhance my enjoyment, they diminish it. And I think that is what the original poster was trying to get at.
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Montague Zooma
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
But why would you play that way? Why limit your self. Why play a game when so much of the content occurs in areas you won't go. Heck why play a game, in which you will never reach the 'top levels' because you won't risk participating in a core element of the game?
Why play a game when you don't experience all of it? That's easy...because you found the part that you enjoy. I've mostly just trained combat skills...I've never researched or built anything in game and doubt I ever will. Do I feel like I'm missing something important? Hell no. Do I think someone who spends all their time building things to be an inferior player? Of course not.
I don't like to mine, either. And I don't feel like I'm missing anything by not doing it.
I don't like being podded, but I risk it. If someone is entertained by not taking that risk, more power to 'em.
I suppose there are some people who use Eve primarily for cyborz and selling smut like that article in Wired mentioned. It doesn't make sense to me, but hey, whatever floats yer boat.... ____________________________________________________________________
Open skies policies are signs of strength and courage, not weakness. |

Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth I offered two.
EQ and WoW are not science-fiction games, therefore they cannot offer what EVE gives me.
It's funny how, after all this time of you saying we're playing the wrong game because we're only experiencing 25% of it, you offer as substitutes games that would give even less.
Quote: If you are asking for an exact clone of EVE, with out the PVP then I'm afraid your out of luck, though you know this as well as I do.
If you truly knew that as well as I do, you wouldn't have claimed that there are games out there that could do it. - - - - - "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown |

Lorth
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Corunna ElMan
Originally by: Lorth I offered two.
EQ and WoW are not science-fiction games, therefore they cannot offer what EVE gives me.
It's funny how, after all this time of you saying we're playing the wrong game because we're only experiencing 25% of it, you offer as substitutes games that would give even less.
Quote: If you are asking for an exact clone of EVE, with out the PVP then I'm afraid your out of luck, though you know this as well as I do.
If you truly knew that as well as I do, you wouldn't have claimed that there are games out there that could do it.
I offered game which gave simular content, as eve does in highsecurity space. I'm going to bed, though if you would really like I'm sure there's a sci-fi game based largely around PVE content, in which you can play to its highest levels without engaging in PVP ever.
Though I suspect your going to challenge me to find an almost exact clone of eve, withouth PVP. In which case you win, though I susspect thats exactly why you said what you did. Because you know as well as I do that game with never exist unless CCP makes a non-PVP server. Though its a poor subistute for an argument, and you glossed over the 'simular' part of it.
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djNME
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:43:00 -
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So bascily you like the challenge of playing this game vs sub par A.I. of npc's.Constant repetition of the same missions and rewards.
See I'm starting to see a pattern here.You try to pick on my typing/grammar skills and fight one of the easiest things in the game to compete with.I see you trying to find something with any flaw and ofc you not having any balls going for that as much as possible to make it seem like you won..in some way.
wow.. what a indepth person.
djNME
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth I offered game which gave simular content, as eve does in highsecurity space.
There's no similarity between EVE and WoW or EQ, except that they are all MMOs.
I enjoyed PvP in Planetside, I just don't need it in EVE. Some people feel a need to validate themselves by killing other players in an MMO, personally I don't feel a need to prove anything in that way. After all, as djNME shows, you can be good at PvP MMOs and still be illiterate. 
Quote: Though I suspect your going to challenge me to find an almost exact clone of eve, withouth PVP.
I merely challenged you to name a game that offers me "the content that is available in high-sec" of EVE.
Since EQ and WoW lack starship combat and the science-fiction setting I seek, neither one is remotely similar to EVE. - - - - - "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown |

Mak'shar Karrde
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Posted - 2006.04.12 06:58:00 -
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You can mine, trade, hunt, produce and manage ships and space stations in X4 (and X3). True, it's not an MMOG but it's PvE elements outstrip what EVE high security space has to offer.
(I don't have a problem with people avoiding low sec, I just felt like plugging X4)
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.12 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sarai Atvar Where are the forum rangers!?
asleep ffs. we have to too you knwo
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin Who pwned who? ~kieron |

djNME
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Posted - 2006.04.12 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: Corunna ElMan
i like men
EVE is un-like any other game and if your red th box it's there.You asked for other games like it..the similar etc.. but not good enough.The example lorth gave are similar to EVE and it's things to do in games.I don't matter how you want to flip it to keep posting.The rest don't matter, you were givin examples yet you stretch to tell him they are not good enough examples.I learn mroe about your personality every time you post noobie.
See maybe if you had fun in the game you would be playing in game..not on the forums spinning what people say.See.. while "flipping burgers" I get to do both.Yeah amazing what working fast food gives you.lol @ you and your lack of any clue.I think trying to talk shyt on forums all day, has giving you a flase sense of worth...or well what I can only imagine gets you some gradifaction.
Keep on talking like bad someone else's lack of keyboard use makes you something special in this game or life.I can just imagine what type of person you must be.Wallowing in your own self pity and filth.See i can tell just by this game the honor people have and the drive in life.You..have none.I bet you jsut love your job too eh..every day?I have friend that does the same...lol.the pity...
Have fun spinning your ship muppet boy.
djNME
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 07:29:00 -
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You misquoted me, there. You're the one who wanted to make another man his *****.
You don't understand sportsmanship, so what would you know of honor?
This is a game, as I've said before I don't feel some need to validate myself to others in it. I don't have any real-life inadequacies that must be compensated for in-game. I'm sorry that I seem to have struck a nerve by so accurately protraying your own situation - it's the only reason you'd have been so sensitive about it.
Quote: See maybe if you had fun in the game you would be playing in game..not on the forums spinning what people say. See.. while "flipping burgers" I get to do both.
Funny... you're not in-game right now, or else you'd see that I am.
Quote: Keep on talking like bad someone else's lack of keyboard use makes you something special in this game or life.
See, here's the thing - you can criticize the "sub-standard AI", but it's smarter than you. Your computer knows how to spell properly - you don't. How does it feel to be dumber than the computer you're currently using?
Quote: I bet you jsut love your job too eh..every day?
In fact, I do. I'm keeping people alive and healthy, it's a very rewarding profession. At the end of the day, I can say that I've helped to save lives - how about you? - - - - - "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown |

djNME
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Posted - 2006.04.12 07:56:00 -
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Assume all you want,again I'm also in game.So there you go with your assumptions. assume
I don't only save lifes, I change lifes and make dreams come true. how bout you? assume
There you go assuming more, the only thing I have said about my typing/spelling/grammar is that you keep trying to bring it up like it makes you feel better about your short comings.Your using just like lorth said to try and flame to win an arguement.In that alone you look like a idiot.I'm pointing that out to you..or you woudln't be so sensative about it.So if thats being sensative about my typing...then ok..lol @ you again. assume
hypocrite too are you??... ok Your not worth posting to anymore, all your doing is using the same dribble we heard in your first posts.
djNME
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:42:00 -
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You may aswell csncel your subscription now  I haven't got a new sig yet :)
http://triad.eve-killboard.net/
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Tremain
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
I may have dissected his post. but I'm still wondrign why someone whould ever pay for a game in which they dislike a large portion of the game play, and refuse to enage in most of the content because of that.
You pay to play a game purely centered around pvp (combat).
Yet you are infact playing a game where you are forced to make money, build ships, mine asteroids, play the market and run corporations.
If you are avoiding all the rest of the game and managing to make enough from loot to not have to ever trade or mine - then great.
But again, you are paying to play one small part of the game.
If you are a pirate you need these traders, miners and ratters to destroy and loot. If you are playing out in 0.0 you need them to make your alliance profitable and to build the ships you fly.
Just as they need you to defend their space and empire industrialists need you to generate some demand for ships and modules (and maybe to add a little spice to their trade runs ).
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: djNME Assume all you want,again I'm also in game.
No, you weren't. Unless you're posting with an alt. 
Quote: I don't only save lifes, I change lifes and make dreams come true.
What are you, a Miss America contestant? Sheesh, give me a break. The only way you "change lives" is to replace the 'v' with an 'f'.
I have a dream you could make come true: Take a minute to run your posts through a spell checker before you post here.
Quote: the only thing I have said about my typing/spelling/grammar is that you keep trying to bring it up like it makes you feel better about your short comings.
"Still=steal"? That was your comment, in case you forgot what started this little tangent.
You can't even communicate, don't go judging anyone else's intellectual ability. - - - - - "Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown |

xPreatorianx
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Posted - 2006.04.12 08:51:00 -
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LOL at this thread it was a great read tbh till some few people decided to throw real life Insults at each other. I do agree with lorth. Everything in this game eventually leads to pvp even manufacturing.Why do alot of people manufacture ships and ammo and guns...For pvpers, and yes some mission runners. But what are the new command ships, titans, mother ships,and dreads for? PVP Not mining not mission running pvp. This game is mostly about pvp. Yes there are other aspects of this game but most eventually lead to PVP.
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Rimme Ettakar
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Posted - 2006.04.12 09:10:00 -
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IBTL !
.4 and below isn't really just about PVP and ganking. Well, maybe pwnenen. 0.0 is a nice place to be. So far ...
RE
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xPreatorianx
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Posted - 2006.04.12 09:20:00 -
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Quote: 0.0 is a nice place to be. So far ...
All i can say is good luck hope you dont get caught with your pants down.(Npcin in a belt with half cap or half sheilds/armor)But .0 is pretty safe if you are in an alliance but anyways thats another topic.
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