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Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.14 22:34:00 - [1] I will finance a War against SNIGG (S******dly Corp). 100 million isk will be paid to finance this war. I want no fewer than 20 frozen corpses from SNIGG members however 5 of each MUST come from Tomar Lyonsbane and Amos Sommers each. Those of you who have the means and wish to take this contract can eve-mail me in-game to make arrangements for the pay-off upon receipt of the aforementioned frozen corpses. Look at this as an excuse to attack SNIGG as often as possible in order to collect the required number of frozen corpses. This offer expires within 30 days.
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 01:12:00 - [2] Okay then if there are no takers at 100 mil isk then how much would this little adventure cost ? So far I am NOT at all impressed with the responses I have read. Everyone is giving excuses or reasons why taking action would be expensive. Everyone is too afraid of suffering a loss and this is why the folks at SNIGG are simply laughing their arses off over this one to be sure. Well let's all huggle close to them starbases in 1.0 space and remain unganked shall we ? - LOL
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 01:36:00 - [3] Originally by: Necrologic I actually have the corpses you want. Do i qualify for this contract? Sure, meet me alone so I can add YOUR frozen hide to the list ! - LOL
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 01:38:00 - [4] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Declaring war only makes our job easier Also, based on Tomar's history, I think it'll take about 3 more years to get 5 of his corpses Good luck with the revenge business. Shamis You SNIGG lamers completely failed to take the 1 billion isk worth of morphite I was guarding when you found me. - LOL And I thought you thieves and ganksters were smart. - LOL Now I know I was completely wrong about you...
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 01:45:00 - [5] Eve as a game needs a serious contract-to-kill features to allow peeps who get ganked to issue globally available kill contracts. The bounty system was flawed from the beginning. I would like to be able to put 1 billion isk on a kill-contract available to all collectable by groups so that those who gank me can be killed using a verifiable system. This kill-contract system should disallow members of the target's corp from being elligible. It should notify the person who sanctioned the contract when the deed is done. It should allow a bonus to be paid if the kill is performed during some period of time, say 10 days or 30 days or whatever. Come on Eve Developers - give us this type of contract-to-kill system.
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 01:47:00 - [6] Originally by: Rasitiln you had 3 giant cans with passwords and they are anchored. More than likely you are just lieing. if you had a billion isk worth of morphite I would think you could hire mercs at a decent rate Yesh, this is what you were supposed to think. There is no better place to hide valuables than in plain sight for all to see in such a manner so as to make would-be thieves conclude exactly what you concluded. "There is nothing valuable here."
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 02:20:00 - [7] Originally by: Pat Lepak I thought you couldnt claim bounty for Corp memmbers ? Bounty system has been flawed from the beginning of EVE because a Bounty can be claimed by anyone; a corp mate, an alt char or anyone. Bounty system "should have" been crafted to keep alt chars or corp mates from claiming a bounty. Alt chars are easy to detect because the Subscriber's database links one's alt chars to the human that owns them. One little SQL Query behind the scenes would have allowed the EVE Dev to craft a suitably secure unexploitable Bounty system that Eve lacks. The other way to detect an alt char is to check the IP address at runtime because most people who play alts have broadband which means a single IP address is being played by more than one account at a time. Some people may have dedicated IP addresses which means the alt char detection would need to be tied to a broader range of IP addresses. Another way to detect alts is to check when commands are sent from the EVE client. People who use alts to collect their own Bounties do so by coordinating their alts closely to the actions of the character they are killing for the money. Bottom line is the Bounty System is flawed and is therefore useless for obtaining retribution for crimes. The other thing EVE needs is an NPC or gang of NPC's that can be hired to track down and kill players for a cost. Pay enough isk and you should be able to buy a fleet of NPC's to take retribution. The next thing EVE needs is the ability to hire NPC haulers to aid small mining corps. Pay enough isk and it should be possible to hire a bunch of haulers to help one mine.
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 02:36:00 - [8] Edited by: Jacque Sparrow on 15/04/2006 02:39:10 Originally by: Deja Thoris Edited by: Deja Thoris on 15/04/2006 02:22:59 Shamis admitted to me in private convo hes scared and thinking about leaving. Deja Thoris> You know some random dude is offering 100mill for a war against your corp? Shamis> Holy ****! I'm screwed. I may have to hide in a noob corp till this blows over He's since left to join Snigwaffe. This is undeniable evidence of his cowardice. I suggest you submit an exploit petition using the convo snippet as evidence. Good luck! After reading this I was tempted to begin believing in the Easter Bunny again - LOL. I will say, if there were a contract-to-kill system in EVE right now I would have dropped 400 mil isk on a contract to kill Tomar Lyonsbane - just for the entertainment value of doing so. But as it is there is no sure way to get retribution in EVE and so doing so is worthless.
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 03:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Necrologic Originally by: Jacque Sparrow Originally by: Rasitiln you had 3 giant cans with passwords and they are anchored. More than likely you are just lieing. if you had a billion isk worth of morphite I would think you could hire mercs at a decent rate Yesh, this is what you were supposed to think. There is no better place to hide valuables than in plain sight for all to see in such a manner so as to make would-be thieves conclude exactly what you concluded. "There is nothing valuable here." I usually hide my valuables in my hanger where nobody can get it. Heh, remind me to create an alt char so i can get into your good graces and steal all your vluables from your corp hangars. - LOL
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 04:14:00 - [10] Originally by: Spyres I'll do it. Just need to go through some calculations. 100m won't buy a HAC I can fly. Hmmm. Could get a BS I suppose - have to be tier 1 though. Let's say a Domi. They're about 60 right? Let's go with insurance aswell, be a shame to waste all the money. That leaves me about 20 to fit it and buy drones and whatnot. Better stick with cheapish NOS, and regulation tanking gear, can't afford much else. Tech 1 drones aswell. Ok, I'm ready. And did you employer in real life have to buy you a car you could drive to work each day or were you expected to cover the cost of your own transportation to get to and from work each day ? Personally, I have never been in an employment situation in real life where an employer could be coerced into buying me a car just in case I happened to wreck my car on my way to or from work each day. Nobody pays people based on their expectations of loss. People are paid based on the work to be done. 100 mil isk in EVE should be more than enough to cover the AMMO a medium sized corporation might expend during a single battle. Unless those of you who have the manpower are so afraid of loss than you cannot take on this task unless you are assured of not losing your nice shiney ships in the process. Heck ship insurance pays for the replacement of your ship. I lost my Scorp and hopped right into my Dom then paid my ship insurance and had 10 mil isk left over. So I had 2 BS's - doesn't everyone ? I would have to be podded about 8 times before I'd have to stop to rebuild a new BS. Had I managed to lose 8 BS's I would be assured of having at least one new BS for FREE as long as I remembered to pay for the insurance before hopping into my next BS. Ships in EVE are virtually FREE and still peeps are crying about losing ships ?!? Can we get a grip here folks ? 3 peeps attacked me - it took that many to do the job. 100 mil isk pays premium BS insurance for something like 4 BS's. 100 mil isk also pays for 2 BS's insurance along with 2-3 T2 friggies and 2-3 Battlecruisers all with premium ship insurance. Once the job is done even if everyone loses their ships there would still be ample isk left over to help ease the loss and everyone gets a new ship virtually for FREE just because that's the way EVE is for all us players who pay to play. Heck, if I had a small corporation of 8 players suitably equip'd I would have no problem collecting this 100 mil isk. Of course I would use 2-3 Stealth Friggies to help nail down the targets before bringing the rest of the fleet to attack. Send in Stealth Friggies nice and cloaked. Scope out the battle and get warp-in points. Warp in the T2 attack friggies to begin the battle. Warp in the BattleCruisers to block and lock-down the targets. Warp in the BS's to blast from afar. Before you know it the targets are dead and no friendly ships lost. Anyone care to tell me how wrong I am about all this ? Because I would be using the exact tactics that were used on me in reverse so I know these tactics work.
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 05:24:00 - [11] Originally by: Spyres Edited by: Spyres on 15/04/2006 04:53:49 Originally by: Jacque Sparrow Originally by: Spyres I'll do it. Just need to go through some calculations. 100m won't buy a HAC I can fly. Hmmm. Could get a BS I suppose - have to be tier 1 though. Let's say a Domi. They're about 60 right? Let's go with insurance aswell, be a shame to waste all the money. That leaves me about 20 to fit it and buy drones and whatnot. Better stick with cheapish NOS, and regulation tanking gear, can't afford much else. Tech 1 drones aswell. Ok, I'm ready. And did you employer in real life have to buy you a car you could drive to work each day or were you expected to cover the cost of your own transportation to get to and from work each day ? Personally, I have never been in an employment situation in real life where an employer could be coerced into buying me a car just in case I happened to wreck my car on my way to or from work each day. Nobody pays people based on their expectations of loss. People are paid based on the work to be done. Um, company car? But hey man, apologies for my misunderstanding, it's just you said you would 'finance the war', and I'd have to buy a new ship, 'cos I only fly mining barges. EDIT - gl with the war though buddy. I know heaps of corps that would jump at the chance to have their ammo paid for. Obviously none of the corps that would "jump" at the chance to have their AMMO paid for read the Forums. 100 mil isk pays for the AMMO, pays for the ship insurance and pays a nice bonus for completing the task. Look at it this way folks, if those of us who got ganked were to become just a little organized we might be able to band together and all declare war on the offenders and then proceed to hunt down the offenders and bring law and order to the universe of EVE. Now wouldn't that be a fun game to play ? Apparently not, huh ? yawn
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 05:55:00 - [12] Originally by: Beastor Love is in teh air ! Btw dude ... just let it go ... not a single player has said that 100mil isk is enough ... so if ur serious ... then why not raise the stakes ... we need more people to kill anyways I am beginning to realize I would have to pay the alts of the offenders just to get this done. So what's the point of any of this anyway ? I guess I'll just have to silently suck-up my own losses and keep my money anyway. Afterall, I lost nothing. I already had a 2nd BS sitting in my hangar. I have 10 mil isk after paying my ship insurance on my Dom. No harm, no foul. BS BPC's are pathetically cheap. Ship insurance pays for the expensive minerals. Alts supply the rest. Before you can say, "pod me", I got back into another BS. Thanks for the lesson in futility.
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:01:00 - [13] Tell you what folks, let's fire all the police and give the criminals the really bad parts of town and then let's setup up gun turrets to keep them out of the nice parts of town and as a society we will save billions of $$ per year. Law Enforcement is highly overrated, according to what most people have posted in this thread. "Declaring war on -10 corps is pointless, because they can shoot back..." It seems to me -10 players have declared war on the rest of us without so much as having to pay the war fees. By compensation, EVE as a game should allow war to be declared on -10 corps without the -10 corps players being able to take advantage of the fact that a war even exists - meaning criminal corps should not be able to attack in high sec space (0.5 >) once a declared war has commenced. This would even out the fact that the lawless are in-fact lawless.
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 16:38:00 - [14] Originally by: Rasitiln dont I get a mention I was there in my shuttle ramming you should you could not warp off. I was hopeing that on the kill mail it would say ship: gallente shuttle weapon: ramming speed but sadly ccp doesnt put ramming shuttles on killmails Then you found a way to exploit game mechanics and you should be banned for cheating ! IMHO
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.15 21:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Masta Killa Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Declaring war only makes our job easier Also, based on Tomar's history, I think it'll take about 3 more years to get 5 of his corpses Good luck with the revenge business. Shamis Nice corp.. gonna recruit 600 noobs and conquer the world? Pirates in EVE ar just too cowardly to PvP one on one ! This is a fact !
Jacque Sparrow	Posted - 2006.04.16 03:48:00 - [16] Originally by: Mr Floppyknickers This has to be the worst case of a bruised ego I've ever witnessed. You were caught napping, knuckle up man, and fight back or pay a decent sum. If you honestly believe that you're gonna issue some call to arms for the greater good, you're only fooling yourself, especially when you come across as a nutter on the forums. So pay more or rub some ice on your bruise and let it go. Stick and stones... but you have neither to fight with - only photons and bits and little of anything else. - LOL For being such a "nutter", as you say, I have captivated some small interest and no few posts for this thread. Who is nuttier ? The nutter who acts as a nutter of the fools who listen to him ? I lost my Scorp to SNIGG because I chose to. SNIGG failed to gank me when they cam upon me napping and they allowed me to warp away undamaged. I chose to warp back and thus lost my ship. I call that entertainment - not nearly as entertaining as this forum thread however. - LOL

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