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Hugo Kaviene	Posted - 2006.04.16 02:39:00 - [1] Edited by: Hugo Kaviene on 16/04/2006 02:40:36 Greetings from Red Alliance. Red Alliance Diplomatic Team Russian - Komolov French - Evelyne DeBoissiere English - Hugo Kaviene Red Alliance General Information Red Alliance is a multi-lingual, multi-timezone alliance located in geographic South-East of Eve universe. History of Red Alliance is a history of heroic resistance and struggle. RA was formed in the aftermath of Curse Alliance's demise. Since then Red Alliance has fought many regional neighbors. Through all, the real heroes of Red Alliance, the fighting men and women in pod-fitted ships, perservered. Their contribution to the preservation of values and culture of cooperation that exists within the alliance is immense. We are currently at war with various powers in the Southern clusters of regions. The war rages on from Curse to Cache, and as always, the struggle continues. ---------------------------- I'm Deng Xiaoping for your Mao Zedong
Joycalyn	Posted - 2006.04.16 03:30:00 - [2] Originally by: Hugo Kaviene The war rages on from Curse to Cache, and as always, the struggle continues. signed, Joycalyn And that's the way the cookie crumbles.
Decia	Posted - 2006.04.16 04:27:00 - [3] Edited by: Decia on 16/04/2006 04:28:24 I started playing EvE right after CA died. Tell us more about RA Hugo!! edit'd to add: I've been reading histoical threads and im drunk....need something in the morning for the hangover :P
Touk	Posted - 2006.04.16 05:48:00 - [4] point?
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.16 07:40:00 - [5] Originally by: Touk point? Recruitment propoganda. Think they are saying, no matter what. RA will live and will fight for whatever they think should be theirs. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Touk	Posted - 2006.04.16 17:23:00 - [6] ahhh ok.....well good job some ppl think otherwise :D
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.04.16 19:52:00 - [7] Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 16/04/2006 19:51:54 You see? Even our enemies love us so much that they just can't stop themselves from posting in our threads so much :P
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.16 20:36:00 - [8] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 16/04/2006 19:51:54 You see? Even our enemies love us so much that they just can't stop themselves from posting in our threads so much :P ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Hugo Kaviene	Posted - 2006.04.17 01:26:00 - [9] Like I said, RA's struggle continues, even in GalNet. ---------------------------- I'm Deng Xiaoping for your Mao Zedong
Louis DelaBlanche	Posted - 2006.04.17 09:50:00 - [10] Trying to postpone your seemingly fast approching demise? From the sounds of things RA are gonna end up going the same way as Phoenix (remember them?. What happened to them anyway after loosing all their systems?). _______________________________________________ I am what I am & more besides that which makes me me
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.17 09:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche Trying to postpone your seemingly fast approching demise? From the sounds of things RA are gonna end up going the same way as Phoenix (remember them?. What happened to them anyway after loosing all their systems?). Many PA became Ghosts of Retribution, I think. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:34:00 - [12] Indeed. Regions are nothing for us.
Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:35:00 - [13] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Indeed. Regions are nothing for us. Thats handy then. Rovers Chronicles
G'ulSera	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:53:00 - [14] Originally by: Rover Vitesse Originally by: Beyond Horizon Indeed. Regions are nothing for us. Thats handy then. indeed :) RA move out then if regions are nothing to you ;) For Blood and Honour The difference between a killer and a soldier is a question of loyalty
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.17 14:10:00 - [15] Originally by: G'ulSera RA move out then if regions are nothing to you ;) So you guys can have your "stable south" (ie: everyone blue so you can carebear it up in peace)? Uh, no.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.17 14:43:00 - [16] Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Originally by: G'ulSera RA move out then if regions are nothing to you ;) So you guys can have your "stable south" (ie: everyone blue so you can carebear it up in peace)? Uh, no. Indeed. We will be the new RA. Carebearing and prospering until next campaign for world domination. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
D75485	Posted - 2006.04.17 16:35:00 - [17] RED Alliance 80% alts and 10% miners 5% spys 5% pvpers
Mitawyn	Posted - 2006.04.17 17:30:00 - [18] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Indeed. Regions are nothing for us. Good thing.
G'ulSera	Posted - 2006.04.17 17:51:00 - [19] Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Originally by: G'ulSera RA move out then if regions are nothing to you ;) So you guys can have your "stable south" (ie: everyone blue so you can carebear it up in peace)? Uh, no. Neh... we'll just call you from time to time for arranged battles somewhere in space. ;) For Blood and Honour The difference between a killer and a soldier is a question of loyalty
Touk	Posted - 2006.04.17 19:03:00 - [20] i wuv RA....the have been a major part in my eve life for the last year or more.
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.04.17 19:27:00 - [21] Originally by: Touk i wuv RA....the have been a major part in my eve life for the last year or more. If I didn't know better - I would have thought you are uber :P
JGR Guinevere	Posted - 2006.04.17 21:16:00 - [22] PLEASE join RA. Getting harder to find targets all the time. If this continues I will have to start shooting Touk =) JGR Guinevere Proud To Be a CHIMP @(^_^)@
Hugo Kaviene	Posted - 2006.04.18 04:14:00 - [23] Edited by: Hugo Kaviene on 18/04/2006 04:18:13 OOC: I am going to speak out here. I DON'T NEED TO HEAR YOUR SMACK HERE. Why is that when V posts their contact info in in-character galnet that no one smacks? And why on Earth it is suddenly acceptable that CHIMP and V start hijacking the thread? I am really getting sick and tired of smart-ass comments that spills even over to simple "RA is multi-lingual alliance" postings. Even when the general information about RA has been NOTHING if not factual. In fact, I even didn't put any comments about how and why the war began. WHY is there a constant barrage of smack about how "oh you don't have any regions" and such? And Touk, I am especially surprised at your less than civil display of "And the point is?" comment. Even when everyone at CWRA still doesn't smack at your posts even in the other Corporations and Alliances forum. You don't like RA, FINE, don't come to a simple diplomatic contact postings and blab about your uberness. edit: spellings and such ---------------------------- I'm Deng Xiaoping for your Mao Zedong
Haldane IV	Posted - 2006.04.18 07:06:00 - [24] I think a part of your "General information" section did/does veer slightly towards propaganda (you have edited the original post) and the comments you object to here are mild in comparison to what some other threads have degenerated into, but I can well understand your annoyance and sympathise and I just want to say that if it is any comfort to you, the kind of people you address this kind of post to are not going to take any notice at all of any childish comments, and if anything posted is actually humourous they will read that for what it is and that won't detract from what you want to say.
Lord Wibblywobbly	Posted - 2006.04.18 08:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche Trying to postpone your seemingly fast approching demise? From the sounds of things RA are gonna end up going the same way as Phoenix (remember them?. What happened to them anyway after loosing all their systems?). Many PA became Ghosts of Retribution, I think. Ebil lies spread to confuse the general populous, GHOST are a completely serarate entity and have nothing whatsoever to do with an alliance that can't keep its own systems, oh wait a minute, where are we going after CACHE now ?
Lord Wimbishi	Posted - 2006.04.18 08:51:00 - [26] Though we are now at war with Ra. I find Hugo's words warranted. There are a 'few' in RA that are respectful and honest folk, It is sad to see them with an alliance the leadership really doesn't care about as a community. Moderate respect to you Hugo since I haven't heard, seen nor witnessed you or a few others I've come to know in RA still respecting. RA hides behind a type of 'Iron Curtain' still and which there was more of a open strong quality in RA. I will always blame leadership for any failing that causes empires to go to war and getting membership caught up into fights and causes they might not believe in. Even I am at fault with things like these but unlike some I at least try to fix the issues.
Katya Detia	Posted - 2006.04.18 09:00:00 - [27] Hey Hugo.. I thought I would add my perspective of RA... My corporation has been shooting at RA since, well.. a very long time.. We've had a lot of good battles, some bad, some very silly, badly thought out fights on both sides.. But it has been fun. Everyone needs to remember, over 2000 pilots are fighting, there will be smack. With the amount of pilots fighting on an alliance level, harsh words will be exchanged. ItÆs a fact of life. Overall, in the grand scale, it isn't that bad. I have a lot of respect for RA. They are fighting 3 alliances. Granted they are losing ground, but they are fighting and trying. They offer fights all of the time, gank my megaT when my screen has frozen and generally fight back. RA is making LV, Chimp and -V- fight for there space. How many alliances can say they have truly done the same? If RA recruits people from this thread, so be it. More targets for me to shoot. GL to you, see you in the field.
Uggster	Posted - 2006.04.18 11:31:00 - [28] Arhhhh.... Bless 'im Makes me almost feel sorry for sending CPWA to NPC stations. Almost.
extravag	Posted - 2006.04.18 12:11:00 - [29] Can the author of the topic please give more precise and comprehendable (for general public) information, like 1. What are the wars the Alliance fought in during its history? What are the results? 2. What's the core idea,priciples behind the alliance? (like nationality, roleplaying, moneymaking-) etc) 3. What are the friends, allies and enemies of yours and why? 4. Is it true that territory-claiming isn't important for the Reds and why? 5. Sometimes The Red Alliance is perceived in the community both as an Alliance of Russians and the only Alliance for Russians wishing to be involved in Alliances. Do you uphold this image? And why? My best intentions were to keep this topic informative and useful both for the Alliance and players seeking the info from the source. best regards
heilio	Posted - 2006.04.18 12:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Originally by: G'ulSera RA move out then if regions are nothing to you ;) So you guys can have your "stable south" (ie: everyone blue so you can carebear it up in peace)? Uh, no. Indeed. We will be the new RA. Carebearing and prospering until next campaign for world domination. Until the time the other powers turn their attentions to you :)
Touk	Posted - 2006.04.18 15:44:00 - [31] Originally by: Hugo Kaviene Edited by: Hugo Kaviene on 18/04/2006 04:18:13 OOC: I am going to speak out here. I DON'T NEED TO HEAR YOUR SMACK HERE. Why is that when V posts their contact info in in-character galnet that no one smacks? And why on Earth it is suddenly acceptable that CHIMP and V start hijacking the thread? I am really getting sick and tired of smart-ass comments that spills even over to simple "RA is multi-lingual alliance" postings. Even when the general information about RA has been NOTHING if not factual. In fact, I even didn't put any comments about how and why the war began. WHY is there a constant barrage of smack about how "oh you don't have any regions" and such? And Touk, I am especially surprised at your less than civil display of "And the point is?" comment. Even when everyone at CWRA still doesn't smack at your posts even in the other Corporations and Alliances forum. You don't like RA, FINE, don't come to a simple diplomatic contact postings and blab about your uberness. edit: spellings and such erm.....i never said i was uber.....i never intended to say i was uber...im not uber....in fact this is the first time iver ever used the word 'uber' in any sentence, thread or in anyway. Anyway....i apoligise Hugo....if i could find the edit button on my post i would remove it. Iwas under the influence of beer and other substances and should never have let my intoxicated brain get the better of me. Im ashamed that i dislike pointless posts and have some how become apart of that through my own stupidty. So please consider this an official apology from me to CWRA. Ya know i love you guys :D
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.18 16:35:00 - [32] Originally by: Touk Ya know i love you guys :D You should come back Touk, you'll have more targets.
Jago Kain	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:26:00 - [33] Edited by: Jago Kain on 18/04/2006 21:52:11 Edited by: Jago Kain on 18/04/2006 21:33:11 Originally by: Hugo Kaviene Edited by: Hugo Kaviene on 18/04/2006 04:18:13 Why is that when V posts their contact info in in-character galnet that no one smacks? And why on Earth it is suddenly acceptable that CHIMP and V start hijacking the thread? If you post a puff-piece about RA on Alliances Summit, rather than in recruitment where it might be more at home, you have to expect that people are going to have a go at you. Couple of questions Hugo: Are you really that bothered? I can't see that your enemies trolling your thread is going to alter anyone's opinion of either RA or them. Also, did you honestly expect V and CHIMP to leave the thread alone after your members have been just as guilty of forum sniping in recent weeks? If you can't stand the heat, don't post flame-bait on the forums. Notice the complete lack of references to popular RA related jibes here; I'm not flaming, just expressing an opinion. Incidentally, I know it's not a popular opinion and I am risking being labelled a carebear, but the real heroes of any Alliance may well be those supplying the minerals and labour to build the infrastructure of your area. Any alliance without proper logistics support will run out of steam very quickly indeed. Fighting is not the be all and end all and they also serve who sit and mine.
Hugo Kaviene	Posted - 2006.04.19 04:23:00 - [34] I will reply in the same spirit and not be confrontational about it. "post a puff-piece about RA" 1. History of Red Alliance is a history of heroic resistance and struggle. True. Everyone can agree, though heroic may be debatable possibly but mild in comparison. 2. RA was formed in the aftermath of Curse Alliance's demise. True 3. Since then Red Alliance has fought many regional neighbors. True 4. Through all, the real heroes of Red Alliance, the fighting men and women in pod-fitted ships, perservered. Perservered. 5. Their contribution to the preservation of values and culture of cooperation that exists within the alliance is immense. True. Their contribution, such as when Goonies stayed up 2 days for an op, is examplary. "Also, did you honestly expect V and CHIMP to leave the thread alone..." Yes. I did, but not because I felt that I have some special previlege or anything. If anything was false in your eyes, I encourage that you call me on it. "...after your members have been just as guilty of forum sniping in recent weeks?" Not V or CHIMP's thread in IC forum in here. "If you can't stand the heat, don't post flame-bait on the forums." How was this topic a flame bait? Have I: 1. Insulted CHIMP, V, LV, KOS? 2. Insulted eve populace in general? 3. Posted outrageous accusations? 4. Have been personal in the original post directing it to individuals? 5. Cried foul about in-game mechanics? 6. Boasted over kills? Last one I agree with. But who says that miners/industrials never ever fighted? ---------------------------- I'm Deng Xiaoping for your Mao Zedong
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.19 08:43:00 - [35] Hugo, if you do care about your alliance as any good leader, why not you guys just sign a treaty to your current enemies and get permission to stay and prosper in Cache? Under the surrender terms, you could, 1. Pay a monthly regional rent of billions to allied forces for war damage and campaign bills. 2. Allow allied forces to do contraband checks on Cache choke points. 3. Allow allied forces to do military embargo/sanction on RA military wing so the region can be stable. 4. Allow allied forces to be stationed in Cache to ensure peace and prosperity of RA. In return, allied forces can help RA to rebuild an empire and have a peaceful Cache. An example of offical terms of surrender can lead to a) Everybody wants a peaceful region. b) Allied forces have a say who RA can NAP and can not NAP with. c) Giving some % of ISKs per month as a tribute. Does not need billions but maybe 500M and above. This is better to see a good use of ISKs than RA rebuilding 20 Dreads, Motherships or Titans. d) Allied forces will not seize loot. Just checking what is being moved to Cache. I am sure, nobody wants to see a few Titans growing behind our backyard. Wink e) RA not dissolving military forces. It is called population control or imposing a quota on military strengths so RA can not organise a suprise attack of 1600 BSes in Cache. Wink Like I said, I do not think allied forces are bad or evil. I am sure allied forces will help RA to prosper and rebuild if RA help themselves. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Trembler	Posted - 2006.04.19 09:58:00 - [36] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Hugo, if you do care about your alliance as any good leader, why not you guys just sign a treaty to your current enemies and get permission to stay and prosper in Cache? ... blah-blah snipped. ... Ease up on Vitox.
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.19 12:23:00 - [37] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire blah Didn't you already tell this joke in another thread? Get some new material, and get out of Hugo's thread. PS: shouldn't you be buying more wcs for your ravens?
HeadHunta II	Posted - 2006.04.19 12:47:00 - [38] Originally by: Hugo Kaviene Edited by: Hugo Kaviene on 18/04/2006 04:18:13 OOC: I am going to speak out here. I DON'T NEED TO HEAR YOUR SMACK HERE. Why is that when V posts their contact info in in-character galnet that no one smacks? And why on Earth it is suddenly acceptable that CHIMP and V start hijacking the thread? I am really getting sick and tired of smart-ass comments that spills even over to simple "RA is multi-lingual alliance" postings. Even when the general information about RA has been NOTHING if not factual. In fact, I even didn't put any comments about how and why the war began. WHY is there a constant barrage of smack about how "oh you don't have any regions" and such? And Touk, I am especially surprised at your less than civil display of "And the point is?" comment. Even when everyone at CWRA still doesn't smack at your posts even in the other Corporations and Alliances forum. You don't like RA, FINE, don't come to a simple diplomatic contact postings and blab about your uberness. edit: spellings and such My 5 Cents to this reply Hugo: I saw now real smack from V-Members before your post, so i am wondering why you wrote this reply. And if you just wanted to show the community of eve your new Diplomats, then post the names and thats it. Your post sounded to me like a kind of recruitement post, and if you get comments into that direction this is no wonder. And the point of this post i still dont get, since a info post of your diplomats has been done before. "-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
Pastora	Posted - 2006.04.19 12:57:00 - [39] Originally by: HeadHunta II I saw now real smack from V-Members before your post, so i am wondering why you wrote this reply. And if you just wanted to show the community of eve your new Diplomats, then post the names and thats it. Your post sounded to me like a kind of recruitement post, and if you get comments into that direction this is no wonder. And the point of this post i still dont get, since a info post of your diplomats has been done before. And stop being paranoid. For me, it didn't sound as a recruitment post. Even if it did, what do you complain about? More targets for you to shot! Were you not (I don't mean you personally, but some members of your coallition) whining/crying on the forums that you don't get enough fights? Or are you too afraid there might be too many if we get more members? _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
G'ulSera	Posted - 2006.04.19 15:58:00 - [40] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: HeadHunta II I saw now real smack from V-Members before your post, so i am wondering why you wrote this reply. And if you just wanted to show the community of eve your new Diplomats, then post the names and thats it. Your post sounded to me like a kind of recruitement post, and if you get comments into that direction this is no wonder. And the point of this post i still dont get, since a info post of your diplomats has been done before. And stop being paranoid. For me, it didn't sound as a recruitment post. Even if it did, what do you complain about? More targets for you to shot! Were you not (I don't mean you personally, but some members of your coallition) whining/crying on the forums that you don't get enough fights? Or are you too afraid there might be too many if we get more members? It's a recruitment post inside an info post, that's why you get reactions... simple as that... And we don't complain, we just point it out... Let's just have fun and leave the smack in kindergarten or something. For Blood and Honour The difference between a killer and a soldier is a question of loyalty
Corak	Posted - 2006.04.19 16:01:00 - [41] to D75485 Gallente Underworld Zombies yes and this 5 % fight 3 months vs 5 aliances = 4000+ members :)
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.19 16:12:00 - [42] Originally by: G'ulSera It's a recruitment post inside an info post I didn't read it that way, but whatever. If the forum moderators feel this is a recruitment post they can lock it or move it themselves - i'm pretty sure they don't need your help. Btw if this were a recruitment post, so what? Does that threaten you? I mean, it wouldn't it be just terrible if the numbers in our little conflict were a bit more even?
G'ulSera	Posted - 2006.04.19 19:44:00 - [43] Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Originally by: G'ulSera It's a recruitment post inside an info post I didn't read it that way, but whatever. If the forum moderators feel this is a recruitment post they can lock it or move it themselves - i'm pretty sure they don't need your help. Btw if this were a recruitment post, so what? Does that threaten you? I mean, it wouldn't it be just terrible if the numbers in our little conflict were a bit more even? I'm just explaining WHY the reaction is that way. Not if YOU do/don't feel the same way. And like i said, i DON'T care if it's a recruitment post. But this is just discussion for the sake of discussion (don't really like the going round-and-round part) And we get the "you're big and i'm small, that's not fair"-thingy. That's your fault not ours, so drop it. For Blood and Honour The difference between a killer and a soldier is a question of loyalty
Touk	Posted - 2006.04.19 22:35:00 - [44] that part at least is true.... RA have few allies due o thier actions in the past....sure we have more pilots than you....and as you say we are 4 alliances.....you are 1 (maybe). CHIMP was formed thanks to RA....in responce to your taking over detorid and trying to inforce a tax system upon the residents or just plain kicking them out. You have alot of enemies due to your own actions...not ours.
Treebeard dk	Posted - 2006.04.20 13:43:00 - [45] You claim to be fighting from Curse to Cache, hmmm, thats odd, how come your main numbers are in Rens and surroundings + hanging around in Egbinger and the pipe down to E02? I know you have an empire war with V atm so that explains the GW part and partly Rens but not quite....and a gang of 20-40 every now and 2nd day does not count as "fighting from Curse to Cache" if you ask me. But maybe I am just not sane (which also explains what my friends have been telling me for ages )
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.04.20 19:38:00 - [46] RA 40 ppl gangs in Rens? Wow, that's something new you came up with - good for you, keep telling those little fairy tails of yours.
Treebeard dk	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:06:00 - [47] Originally by: Beyond Horizon RA 40 ppl gangs in Rens? Wow, that's something new you came up with - good for you, keep telling those little fairy tails of yours. Keep teeling yourself just that m8, when you are done with that, please read my post again and let me know when I said 40 ppl gangs in Rens, after that, wake up and run away from your comp please.
Trembler	Posted - 2006.04.21 01:44:00 - [48] First of all, I would like to point out that all our enemies suck! (of course ;) Chimps got what they earned. And now, stop hijackin Hugo's topic plz, fight us in-game instead. Thank you all (enemies). You are all lovely, although you do not all drop T2 loot :( Bye!
Lord Wimbishi	Posted - 2006.04.21 07:49:00 - [49] Well Hugo was posting out of honor and loyalty to his alliance and didn't start it as smack. As any respect his attempts should be honored and himself respected. I just wish RA had more such individuals higher up in the RA leadership in trying to provide a positive example. But I fear it is to late as the Red Alliance is/has fallen from grace and any attempt to reasablish it's honor will be largely wasted because so many voice a a negative weight against it. If RA is REALLY trying to reorganize its leadership I advise you open your arms to help write up a document and presentation to show just that without arrogance, pride or resentment to show a true professionalism that people will respect. Doing so will AT LEAST try to show a change of RA's diplomacy skills with a hope of changing itself and its stance towards its neighbors. But still I fear it is coming at a time to late to really save what is largely seen as a dishonorable alliance. I don't blame the pilots in RA largely for the failures of the RA community. I do blame the individuals the lead with more arrogance then a righteous leader should have since most of the past actions speak for RA's diplomatic attitude towards others. It just isn't tolerate and like everything in the game and world at large. things must adapt and change to be current with the present times and not so clinging to the past for strength and pride. If PA could do this RA can to. It only takes single strong leader to make it happen. One that all can look up to and depend on to make wise direct decisions for the benefit of all the members in your alliance and corporate community? It is a heavy burden to be the figurehead and reconised leader of an alliance or even just a key leader of an alliance. You must stand for something of strong moral unselfish value to serve the people you respresent. Are you such a leader Hugo?
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.21 12:41:00 - [50] Last post. Getting sick of these forums (and this game, tbh). I find it hilarious and ironic that a bunch of so-called "pvp alliances" are giving RA a hard time about being "undiplomatic" and not being nice to its neighbors. Until recently, I don't even know if we had any "diplomats" in the alliance. Of course the smack in the forums is that RA are just miners/npcers/complex****s/etc. Right. That's what we are, meanwhile the rest of you are all happily NAP'd with each other and singing kumbayah together. And when you state one of your goals as being a "stable south", its basically code for "No more mean RA people preventing us from carebearing it up in peace." If thats not what it means, then what exactly does* it mean? "Don't need Diplomats. f1,f2,f3.." kthxbuhbye
Treebeard dk	Posted - 2006.04.21 13:26:00 - [51] Edited by: Treebeard dk on 21/04/2006 13:26:15 Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil And when you state one of your goals as being a "stable south", its basically code for "No more mean RA people preventing us from carebearing it up in peace." If thats not what it means, then what exactly does it mean? "Don't need Diplomats. f1,f2,f3.." kthxbuhbye I can answer that one I believe. RA will, by no means negotiate with anyone that have enither made a mistake (in their eyes) or have friends that RA dont like so basicly it means that RA aint open to changes or to reach a hand out to create the peace that 3, maybe even all 4 alliances you are currently fighting, offered you along the road. SO you are trying to mine in peace while not wanting to offer any relations with our neighbours whatsoever, all because those alliances wont turn around and shoot at eachother as RA demands in return for peace. Suck up some of the pride of yours and the south would be a happy place for everyone living there. That answer enough?
Tassi	Posted - 2006.04.21 14:51:00 - [52] Altz left RA. Now RA has 1 last corp that gets some respect. XIII. Without them and without your small POS spammage you die. Natural selection will make you die RA.
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.04.21 14:58:00 - [53] That is a brave post for such an arrogant man.
Jago Kain	Posted - 2006.04.21 19:16:00 - [54] Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Last post. Getting sick of these forums (and this game, tbh). There is a simple solution; I should imagine you can figure it out for yourself. Whatever happens, it's a big universe and you won't be missed. Can I have your stuff btw? If the forums bother you so much, why do you keep posting on them? I've seen your ill-informed comments and smackky lies in a lot of threads recently and I find them tiresome. Please note, I have no problem with the rest of RA, other than the obvious one that our alliances are crossing swords, I just get sick of this muppet popping up in every thread with his flame-bait. If you fought half as hard in game as you do on forums, maybe you'd still have a region. It's over Ex, let it go and you'll feel a whole lot better. BTW I hear WoW are looking for "a few good men". Lots of potential for griefing and ninja looting; might be more up your street. Come back to us when you tire of all the 12 yr old Elf Ladyboys. Or not. Whatever.
Derrios	Posted - 2006.04.21 19:22:00 - [55] Edited by: Derrios on 21/04/2006 19:23:23 Edited by: Derrios on 21/04/2006 19:23:10 n/t misspost
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.04.21 22:39:00 - [56] Originally by: Jago Kain Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Last post. Getting sick of these forums (and this game, tbh). If you fought half as hard in game as you do on forums, maybe you'd still have a region. It's over Ex, let it go and you'll feel a whole lot better. But hey... we actually do have a region :)
Majikthize Vitesse	Posted - 2006.04.22 00:59:00 - [57] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: Jago Kain Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Last post. Getting sick of these forums (and this game, tbh). If you fought half as hard in game as you do on forums, maybe you'd still have a region. It's over Ex, let it go and you'll feel a whole lot better. But hey... we actually do have a region :) Don't want to fight smack with smack, but i can't help it... Everyshore?
Fojar	Posted - 2006.04.22 07:54:00 - [58] Originally by: Majikthize Vitesse Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: Jago Kain Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Last post. Getting sick of these forums (and this game, tbh). If you fought half as hard in game as you do on forums, maybe you'd still have a region. It's over Ex, let it go and you'll feel a whole lot better. But hey... we actually do have a region :) Don't want to fight smack with smack, but i can't help it... Everyshore? It's quite blatently Heimatar Don't speak Russian.....F1, F2, F3, F4, F5 etc.
Nork	Posted - 2006.04.22 16:59:00 - [59] Originally by: Tassi Altz left RA. Now RA has 1 last corp that gets some respect. XIII. Without them and without your small POS spammage you die. Natural selection will make you die RA. Correction: Section XIII left RA. Seems only the carebears and alts are left now.
Tassi	Posted - 2006.04.22 21:18:00 - [60] Originally by: Nork Correction: Section XIII left RA. Seems only the carebears and alts are left now. I need to correct myself than. RA is dead. No respect left. Go and mine veld in rens.
Iron MacWill Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.09 07:38:00 - [61] Originally by: Tassi Originally by: Nork Correction: Section XIII left RA. Seems only the carebears and alts are left now. I need to correct myself than. RA is dead. No respect left. Go and mine veld in rens. Too long agony, isn't it?
Tesarus Minmatar REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 07:47:00 - [62] Edited by: Tesarus on 09/08/2006 07:48:54 Edited by: Tesarus on 09/08/2006 07:48:39 Edited by: Tesarus on 09/08/2006 07:48:18 Originally by: Iron MacWill Originally by: Tassi Originally by: Nork Correction: Section XIII left RA. Seems only the carebears and alts are left now. I need to correct myself than. RA is dead. No respect left. Go and mine veld in rens. Too long agony, isn't it? As long as coalition loot supply us :) Jecky Chan san (с) BAD CARMA
Twilight Moon Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.09 08:35:00 - [63] You've got a nice alliance logo anyway. ...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
Din Grant Friends Corp	Posted - 2006.08.09 08:58:00 - [64] Originally by: Tassi Originally by: Nork Correction: Section XIII left RA. Seems only the carebears and alts are left now. I need to correct myself than. RA is dead. No respect left. Wow. For me it seems like "dead RA", where "only the carebears and alts are left now" is making a very tough time for Coalition. Who are the Coalition in this case? btw, isn't it time to stop hijacking the official RA information thread with this all smack and argument? Are topics like "New offensive against RA, etc" too tight to fit in them all the smack? ___________________________ The post above represents my personal opinion. It is just coincidence, if it's the same as any corp's or alliance's. =)
Phoenicia Lunar Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.09 11:43:00 - [65] RA may or may not be dead, but this thread sure 'was'... There is no peace, there is only BOOBIES!
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 13:22:00 - [66] Edited by: Komolov on 09/08/2006 13:22:49 Originally by: Phoenicia RA may or may not be dead, but this thread sure 'was'... No, hostiles in local constantly insisted they never user 'RA dead' sentence on forums. Also they (including mighty Velios) were trying to convince me that they never meant that. Thanks to MacWill for pointing out that they were lying (propably unintentionaly). Edit: And where your mighty stealth bomber gone from NRAEL? --------------------
Phoenicia Lunar Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.09 13:28:00 - [67] Edited by: Phoenicia on 09/08/2006 13:29:15 Originally by: Komolov Edited by: Komolov on 09/08/2006 13:22:49 Originally by: Phoenicia RA may or may not be dead, but this thread sure 'was'... No, hostiles in local constantly insisted they never user 'RA dead' sentence on forums. Also they (including mighty Velios) were trying to convince me that they never meant that. Thanks to MacWill for pointing out that they were lying (propably unintentionaly). Edit: And where your mighty stealth bomber gone from NRAEL? I was more referring to the thread which seems to have come back after 4 months of no-posts. As for my bomber, RA are no longer my nearest enemy. The current enemies don't have the balls to sit around and wait for the 'pop' like you guys though There is no peace, there is only BOOBIES!
dralid Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 14:40:00 - [68] So who is now diplomatic contact for english in R.A.? Please EVEmail me! -- Do YOU know, the Whirlwind? HERE
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.09 14:52:00 - [69] Edited by: Komolov on 09/08/2006 14:52:00 Originally by: Phoenicia I was more referring to the thread which seems to have come back after 4 months of no-posts. I suspect MacWill intentionally searched for that one --------------------
Myal Terego PAX Interstellar Services Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.10 03:41:00 - [70] Edited by: Myal Terego on 10/08/2006 03:42:12 Reason thier post is full of garbage is because of very few people actually like RA. They crap in almost everyones backyards with thier 24/7 complex accounts, and take advantage of every possible "Game Mechanic" they can to win, regardless of how lame/boring/ridiculous it is. And then they come on the forums, and act like " Heroes" , and you are wondering why? Also wtf does Axiom empire have any business in the matter? I havent even seen you on the battlefield but there is a crapload of smack coming from you guys, are you trolling for a wardec? Trust me alot of us would welcome someone fresh to fight. edit: I have to admit for a guerilla fighting alliance, they do very well. They deserve some credit, as its mostly ccps fault that half the crap they pull is allowed, or not fixed in game.
Phoenicia Lunar Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.10 05:05:00 - [71] Originally by: Myal Terego Edited by: Myal Terego on 10/08/2006 03:42:12 Reason thier post is full of garbage is because of very few people actually like RA. They crap in almost everyones backyards with thier 24/7 complex accounts, and take advantage of every possible "Game Mechanic" they can to win, regardless of how lame/boring/ridiculous it is. And then they come on the forums, and act like " Heroes" , and you are wondering why? Also wtf does Axiom empire have any business in the matter? I havent even seen you on the battlefield but there is a crapload of smack coming from you guys, are you trolling for a wardec? Trust me alot of us would welcome someone fresh to fight. edit: I have to admit for a guerilla fighting alliance, they do very well. They deserve some credit, as its mostly ccps fault that half the crap they pull is allowed, or not fixed in game. You may want to take a look at the dates in the second page there sport. This thread has ceased to be, until a certain .-A-. pilot decided to return it from the dead. Trust me, Exaali wasn't Axiom Empire when she posted what she posted. She was RA back then. Kinda my 'evil counterpart'... Who apparently left the game? Guess I won There is no peace, there is only BOOBIES!
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.08.10 11:09:00 - [72] Originally by: D75485 RED Alliance 80% alts and 10% miners 5% spys 5% pvpers well if your stats are true how come RA still hold territory after so many alliances have fought them. They lose alot of ships and POS's but they always seem to bring more. Very frustrating tactic, tactics that were never available to the PA back in the day. They are using whatever means they can to stay alive, respect to them for that.
Myal Terego PAX Interstellar Services Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.11 14:52:00 - [73] Edited by: Myal Terego on 11/08/2006 14:53:26 thanks m8, your right i made a mistake and will edit that out of my last post.
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.08.11 17:51:00 - [74] Shouldn't the OP have the post edited? I thought there was a rule about having to display your corporation and/or alliance underneath your name?
Phoenicia Lunar Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.11 21:41:00 - [75] Apparently some people dont grasp the subtle yet humorous way in which I tried to prove my earlier point. I'll spell it out: THIS THREAD IS FOUR MONTHS OLD! There is no peace, there is only BOOBIES!
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:20:00 - [76] Originally by: Phoenicia THIS THREAD IS FOUR MONTHS OLD! All Coalition posts about RA are having same smell no matter of age. So who cares where to smack. --------------------
Phoenicia Lunar Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.14 12:53:00 - [77] Originally by: Komolov All Coalition posts about RA are having same smell no matter of age. So who cares where to smack. Whereas the smell of RA arrogance has become rather overripe. Let the thread die. There is no peace, there is only BOOBIES!
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.14 14:23:00 - [78] Originally by: Phoenicia Let the thread die. As girl said --------------------
Yakti	Posted - 2006.08.14 17:21:00 - [79] No I want to have last word! "da vodka ebay logoffski"

Eshtir Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.08.14 21:28:00 - [80] Thread Locked for Necromancy and getting off topic. -Eshtir forum rules \| [email protected] Yulai, we have a problem!


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