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Marine03112	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:13:00 - [1] I have found that folks i used to talk too that we now shoot cant keep the game in perspective. I think Molle did the best thing that he could have done to keep the game interesting and fun. Its fun to pvp and such well for me. I respect the folks in ascn and ts even though we shoot them. I guess someone who has seen real combat just doesnt take a game that seriously. Well we should enjoy a game that we play for leisure and keep the serious in RL. Thats my take on it. WOndering what other folks think?
Recluse Viramor	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:17:00 - [2] Because EVE isnt a game for somepeople, it is a virtual reality that they escape to and pirate, wage war, build stuff, etc.. CHSN killboard
Razor Jaxx	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:18:00 - [3] Hey Marine, long time no see m8 Agreed of course, though I have to say, a little less ego tripping would make for a little less hostility in return. People talk a lot about 'respect' in these forums, but in my world, 'respect' begins with a bit of common courtesy. But meh, really, I couldn't care less, personally I'm like you, I don't let it affect me much. Ta ta o/ Originally by: Shin Ra They are playing on "I'm too young to die!"
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:19:00 - [4] Eve = game, but people, who playing Eve is real. "If we`d met in RL - i`d buy you a beer. But now i`ll do my best" (c) ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:22:00 - [5] Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:23:00 - [6] a lot of ppl take this game very seriously cause its more then a game to them ;p come to think of it in some ways its more than just a game to me too ;p btw long time no see ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Mr SunTzu	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:24:00 - [7] Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp hyporcrite.
Saal Iverson	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:25:00 - [8] most people just tend to lose it with time wasters or general bs like that. most people who really get pi%&ed off, are those who have a limited time to play when they can.and can obviously get irate when that time is spent doing stuff they really dont enjoy doing. course this being with eve. we all here and there gott do the crp we dont like doing to do the stuff we do like. give and take sitation. just one of those things which is abit of a sham ethat happens. tis a game but its peoples real life they spend playing it. the whole debate whether its right or wrong to get really****ed or not really can grey out. because of the different situations.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:26:00 - [9] Originally by: Mr SunTzu Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp hyporcrite. Seriously, you don't know me at all because otherwise you wouldn't post that. Just because I put up a certain front on the forums doesn't mean I am actually like that ingame or on irc. But hey, keep flaming me, it's just proving the OP's point ;) dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Amataras	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:30:00 - [10] True, it's a game, but it also involves real people. Sometimes things happen which have a real effect on people. But yes, some people are too highly strung ------- The Eve Diplomacy Table

Shittake	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:35:00 - [11] It seems to me that some people take this game too seriously because of time investment. Other games like UT2K4 you kills things until you die and respawn with no real penalty. In Eve, some people spend lotsa time accumulating ISK to buy things, and since time = ISK in a way, when their things get blown up they get mad because it was a waste of tiem in their minds. I don't know, that's one of the things I think that get people steamed and take thigns too seriously.
magickangaroo	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:41:00 - [12] game??? what is this game u speak of? (GAL11) Brigadier General yay
Avon	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:42:00 - [13] I think it is only a tiny minority who take it personally. I had some pretty light hearted chats at the London meet with people who's corpses I have in my hangar. I can't think of anyone there who was (overtly) holding any personal grudges from ingame events. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Aliksr	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:45:00 - [14] EVE isn't just a game, it's a social game. Humans are social animals, human nature in all its ugliness sometimes comes out even in a game like this (or especially?). The thing that keeps me positive (and keeps me reading the eve-o forums ;p) is the fact that bad people who can't control themselves usually lose. EVE punishes social ineptitude.
K5K AnimalMother	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:47:00 - [15] If I wanted to play a game for craps and giggles I would have picked something less demanding than EvE. I would be playing GuildWars or WoW where you can run around stroking Elves and dance like retards and mouth off to anyone you see and not have to worry about the consequences. You really don't have to worry about losing anything that you've worked for in those games. Anything could be Items, Money, Reputation,.. etc. Now I'm not saying run around wetting your pants when you lose something, but just illustrating on why someone might get a tad upset or bothered when they DO. So..EvE isn't a game to me persay. Requires a lot of time building relations, building your character, building wealth, etc.... I feel that those that say that it is just a game have played since Beta, and have accomplished whatever objectives or goals that they set forth, and there are the handful that really don't care I suppose. EvE doesn't compare to anything that I've ever played before, so I can't seem to shake it. It...well it has it all for me, and I can run around as a hot Amarrian beauty...woohoo
Ripline	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:49:00 - [16] Comes down to competetiveness in large part. Decent part of people just loathe losing to anyone and for any reason, even if it's sapping the fun out of a game. Ie, only good game is a winning one, rest be damned. Goes a long way towards explaining the smacktalk and inane debates (together with internet anonomity).
PriceChker	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:51:00 - [17] Yes i can see how folks can get very irrate about the game. You have to invest alot of time to get something out of the game. Hours upon hours. I myself personally reflect and see that its part of the game and once u log off that RL is where u should be concerned with. I myself for 2years had my priorities abit poxed up. All i can say is take a deep breathe if your plans get messed up in game and think think think. This game is very tactical. I lost a pod due to the fact i didnt scout a grp that had a fly catcher lol. Lucky i had on implants. Well folks Peace out. Marine. Semper FI.
K5K AnimalMother	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:57:00 - [18] Some afterthoughts ... The variety of ppl that play EvE make it interesting too. I suppose if everyone was uptight about the game it wouldn't be that fun, and if everyone didn't care and ran around shooty shooty it would get old too. The same scenario that Predators need Prey, and Prey need Predators. IMO
xenorx	Posted - 2006.04.18 20:59:00 - [19] Hard to say why ppl take it all to heart. I have found my self taking it way to seriously at times as well. When that happens I find my self having to just step away and take a break from the game. Sometimes takes a day sometimes a week to get my perspective back. Of course this game is nothing like any other. This game in some respects is almost like a second job at times. (Im sure there are some CEO's out there that can relate to that.) To get ahead in this game take real work and real time and a lot of real planning. All that can go out the window very fast though and that can take a toll on someone regardless of game time or real life time. No one can hear you scream in space, so just shut up and die already.
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:00:00 - [20] Edited by: j0sephine on 18/04/2006 21:01:02 "hyporcrite." Look up "primary tank" and "holding aggro" concepts from the other games. Then you'll know what dbp is about... ;s

Beringe	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:02:00 - [21] You take that back! randomly flames the wrong person for an imagined slight, managing to bring several inappropriate RL analogies into the flame at the same time ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
wierchas noobhunter	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:04:00 - [22] Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp wierchas 4tw
Imran	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:04:00 - [23] Originally by: Razor Jaxx Hey Marine, long time no see m8 Agreed of course, though I have to say, a little less ego tripping would make for a little less hostility in return. People talk a lot about 'respect' in these forums, but in my world, 'respect' begins with a bit of common courtesy. But meh, really, I couldn't care less, personally I'm like you, I don't let it affect me much. Ta ta o/ Dont let if affect you PFFT, dont make me post your death threats agianst me on the forums. Hes EVIL!!1!! they keep me locked in a clos...noooo EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
CLEISTHENES2	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:07:00 - [24] End of the day this is a game, what we do in game, the hatred and all the rest stays in game tbh. If i met you in rl i would most definetly buy you a drink . Just like the eve radio event this year, god i met so many peeps which included alot of enemies for in game, but i had a great laugh and a chuckle about it with everyone, and i think i bought em a pint, who knows i was plastered
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:09:00 - [25] Can someone please help me escort Marine back to HQ to get properly checked out, he seems to have blown a fuse or something Eve Blacklight Style
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:14:00 - [26] I love the people that are "rolling" their eyes at db preacher, you're proving the ops point by a country mile. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:15:00 - [27] I'd buy none of you a drink tbh. You'd have to buy me one, i have no money.
Kai'Lee	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:16:00 - [28] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
sidthesexist	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:16:00 - [29] Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp I agree with the alt to be honest, you do take it seriously some times DBP and it shows in a few of your posts, you can lie and say it doesnt or you can admit it and just be human, its ok to admit it. I take it too seriously sometimes, doesnt mean its wrong, just means we'r human. ________
Rytir	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:23:00 - [30] Edited by: Rytir on 18/04/2006 21:25:13 Originally by: Darko1107 I'd buy none of you a drink tbh. You'd have to buy me one, i have no money. darko stole..... i mean borrowed all mine Originally by: Imran ........ Dont let if affect you PFFT, dont make me post your death threats agianst me on the forums. Hes EVIL!!1!! they keep me locked in a clos...noooo Immy i'm omw to save you <3 Originally by: TheJay I went to MLM and all I got was this lousy alliance

Bedrock	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:25:00 - [31] lol you're all losers tbh ;) ------------------ Frustrated:
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:30:00 - [32] Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/04/2006 21:31:44 Originally by: sidthesexist Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp I agree with the alt to be honest, you do take it seriously some times DBP and it shows in a few of your posts, you can lie and say it doesnt or you can admit it and just be human, its ok to admit it. I take it too seriously sometimes, doesnt mean its wrong, just means we'r human. As I said to him, you can all think what you want. This is a big game, if it wasn't then I wouldn't be able to step away from it. The forums don't make me upset, they don't make me angry, all my posts are tongue in cheek and are done for a very specific couple of reasons. I like winding people up on the forums because it's funny watching them blowing a gasket and making complete idiots out of themselves and this has it's tactical advantages. But 30 seconds after I've posted I'll be paying attention to something else. It's nothing but fun. Now, fanboi's, I know you all love me and want a piece of me but seriously, move the thread on to what YOU think, not what you think of me. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Marine03112	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:35:00 - [33] I agree that sometimes this game can feel like a job. I dont envy the CEOs of this game. It would be to much of a job for me to do what they do. I can say though that our CEOs do a outstanding job and work hard at the game. We all play to win but when we have a setback some of us including myself neeed to chill! i wish u all the best of luck in game and out of game but if we shoot eachother in game dont take it to personally. Marine.
sidthesexist	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:40:00 - [34] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/04/2006 21:31:44 Originally by: sidthesexist Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp I agree with the alt to be honest, you do take it seriously some times DBP and it shows in a few of your posts, you can lie and say it doesnt or you can admit it and just be human, its ok to admit it. I take it too seriously sometimes, doesnt mean its wrong, just means we'r human. As I said to him, you can all think what you want. This is a big game, if it wasn't then I wouldn't be able to step away from it. The forums don't make me upset, they don't make me angry, all my posts are tongue in cheek and are done for a very specific couple of reasons. I like winding people up on the forums because it's funny watching them blowing a gasket and making complete idiots out of themselves and this has it's tactical advantages. But 30 seconds after I've posted I'll be paying attention to something else. It's nothing but fun. Now, fanboi's, I know you all love me and want a piece of me but seriously, move the thread on to what YOU think, not what you think of me. dbp You know im going to call you a lier so lets just agree to disagree then shall we? ________
Johnny Johnny	Posted - 2006.04.18 21:48:00 - [35] Originally by: Aliksr EVE isn't just a game, it's a social game. Humans are social animals, human nature in all its ugliness sometimes comes out even in a game like this (or especially?). The thing that keeps me positive (and keeps me reading the eve-o forums ;p) is the fact that bad people who can't control themselves usually lose. EVE punishes social ineptitude. QFT evolution in action, tbh. ------------- Johnny Johnny ------------- Some people are like a Slinky.....not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.
Lord Violent	Posted - 2006.04.18 22:05:00 - [36] There would be no risk and reward if when that risk goes south you didnt feel it. Some people move on, others take it personally.
Lorth	Posted - 2006.04.18 22:20:00 - [37] I've never understood someone who would play a game that they could actually become upset over, or that would ever make the guy behind the keyboard mad, or angry. Well to a point at least, I've become a little upset over doing something stupid, like lossing a HAC to a 3 cruiser spawn because of lag. But 30 seconds later its gone, and I'm back to the game. But I've never been angry, or really upset over anouther persons actions in game. I may say that I am, or type something as such, but thats always in-charactor, and never ever reflects to views of the guy behind the keyboard. But meh, its a game, I play for fun, and if I ever get to attached to this charactor, to the point where the things that happen, affect the emotions of the person behind the keyboard I'll quit that day. I'm fair forthcomeing about my opinion. Its no secret that I dislike Burn Eden for example. But should I ever meet one of them in person, I'll sit down, have a good laugh, and talk about the game. Though the next day I'll come back, and still dislike them as much and post the same. The one person I knew in real life, who played this game, we used to have some of the biggest flame war's and smack in local. Though we were good friends, in real life. There's nothing you could do to this charactor that would make me upset. (game mechanics wise, hacking accounts and what not aside) Pod Lorth back into a tech 1 frig, steal every single one of his assets, do what ever you want. This game always has risks of bad things happening, truth be told, thats why I play it. Why become upset over it? Play anouther game if something like that would bother you.
Hast	Posted - 2006.04.18 22:56:00 - [38] I would buy you all a drink, except Darko, cos he's underage I cheat in poker
Zigadenus	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:02:00 - [39] The only actual player-person in this game to have ever made me angry is me. ________________________________________________ Kyle > Why do you have to ask me all these complicated questions? Zerodragon > Dude, IÆm trying to save your setup from complete suckage.
Shai Faetal	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:09:00 - [40] Edited by: Shai Faetal on 18/04/2006 23:10:22 i don't remember a time where i got mad at someone in this game, sure i get frustrated when some ppl do some things but not like i actually hate them, like camp you 24/7 or follow you with alts everywhere you go. i get frustrated at bedrock for the sigs he posts on our forum (not the eve-o forums but "our" forum), cuz then i can't watch the forums in public places without turning of all the images. edit: dbp is a nub --- ^_^ my sig is better then urs, damn right! ^_^ CCP FTW

Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:09:00 - [41] Edited by: Exaali Vendraxxil on 18/04/2006 23:09:23 Hast's bald head makes me angry. On the other hand, of Lorth's bald head, I feel nothing. EDIT: Apologies Lorth, I zoomed in and you've got a little tuft up on top after all.
Imran	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:12:00 - [42] Originally by: Hast I would buy you all a drink, except Darko, cos he's underage I LOVE U EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:13:00 - [43] Originally by: j0sephine Edited by: j0sephine on 18/04/2006 21:01:02 "hyporcrite." Look up "primary tank" and "holding aggro" concepts from the other games. Then you'll know what dbp is about... ;s I thought that was usually Blacklight... "The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer
Hast	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:14:00 - [44] Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil Edited by: Exaali Vendraxxil on 18/04/2006 23:09:23 Hast's bald head makes me angry. On the other hand, of Lorth's bald head, I feel nothing. EDIT: Apologies Lorth, I zoomed in and you've got a little tuft up on top after all. you can say I suck, that I lie, smack, log, wear stabs, only gank, never fights, always safespots, mine to much, complex ***** all day, never get within 200km of a enemy fleet, carebear in empire, but NEVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MY BALD HEAD! I cheat in poker
Dreez	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:17:00 - [45] Edited by: Dreez on 18/04/2006 23:17:39 There was a few occations back in the old days when i used to wish death & decay to TomB, for obvious reasons. Hope he dont bann my arse now . But yes. This game tends to affect the RL mood sometimes. Current Location: After chasing TomB for 2 years, at the pub, getting a cold beer.
Zembla	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:22:00 - [46] I agree with the OP. No matter how fun this game is, it can't (realistically) pay for the bills etc. There's enough emotions, hatred and the likes in real life to try 'n keep the game as fun as can be. To me, a kill is a kill, and a loss a loss, it ain't exactly fun to lose, but there's no fun in getting a kill if there's no risk of sustaining a loss as well. <Z> Spread the Z
Ikarushka	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:24:00 - [47] but then again sometimes when `ingame` smack starts on the forum/local I wish people would handle it like RL man... ie simply take their pants off and check who's is larger
slip66	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:42:00 - [48] Tt is a game, I can admit I get worked up at times. Mostly when I read something that is just plain wrong from the actual truth. Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
fisty	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:55:00 - [49] Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp signed ciao
SunWuKong	Posted - 2006.04.18 23:55:00 - [50] I think some of that grows on the player. The longer you play the game, this less irritating situations become. Sometime I get upset and have to remind myself just that: "it's a game". Not because I take something personally per say, more that this game is so GREAT that it's easy to get completely immersed. I forget where I'm at sometimes while playing. j/k Also, that most glorious adrenaline rush that this game makes possible, naturally hinders a persons developed self-control. p.s. (no matter how mad you are, anyone that smacks seriously over the game out of anger, only makes themself look ridiculous)

j0sephine	Posted - 2006.04.19 00:02:00 - [51] "I thought that was usually Blacklight..." Blacklight gets to play the good cop, though... :<
Genyosha Akura	Posted - 2006.04.19 00:08:00 - [52] Originally by: Beringe You take that back! randomly flames the wrong person for an imagined slight, managing to bring several inappropriate RL analogies into the flame at the same time Man you're hanging with nerds!
Baun	Posted - 2006.04.19 00:15:00 - [53] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Mr SunTzu Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp hyporcrite. Seriously, you don't know me at all because otherwise you wouldn't post that. Just because I put up a certain front on the forums doesn't mean I am actually like that ingame or on irc. But hey, keep flaming me, it's just proving the OP's point ;) dbp The reverse also applies DBP. Just because some (or I guess it would be more accurate, in this case, to say many) people really dislike how you present yourself both on the forum and in game it doesn't mean that they would try to hurt you if they saw you in person. People can certainly react adversely without them "taking the game too seriously". The op's point has more to do with divorcing in game political changes from personal relationshops than it does acting like an ******* on the forum because you think its funny. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Sun Ra	Posted - 2006.04.19 00:18:00 - [54] Originally by: Mr SunTzu Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp hyporcrite. Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas'
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.04.19 01:32:00 - [55] For me EvE is not "just a game". EvE is my hobby. EvE is the mates i play with and like so very much. --------------------------------
Plim	Posted - 2006.04.19 01:56:00 - [56] Because of moomins. And how could you not take moomins seriously? You would have to be some kind of uber clown. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
Kinsy	Posted - 2006.04.19 02:33:00 - [57] ...like b00gie. He's the clown on stilts, only he doesnt wear any cos he's too tall! Seriously, and although i may regret the usage of this example, i have been exploding BoB for a fair old while, yet 2 weekends ago i was sharing fight stories and drinks with them while simultaneously being ransomed by Shin Ra for more booze
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.04.19 02:39:00 - [58] Eve is not a game. Its a way of life.
Kinsy	Posted - 2006.04.19 02:43:00 - [59] Originally by: Shin Ra Eve is not a game. Its a way of life. Just like pink ties and hair products.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.04.19 03:00:00 - [60] Originally by: Kinsy Originally by: Shin Ra Eve is not a game. Its a way of life. Just like pink ties and hair products. Na, thats just cool.

Plutoinum	Posted - 2006.04.19 03:21:00 - [61] Edited by: Plutoinum on 19/04/2006 03:24:05 I'd say I usually play seriously, but I don't take things in-game too seriously or personally. Perhaps a bit like sports. I always prefered a serious match over playing 'just for fun'. I can joke during a match, but the match itself has to be hard, a fight, otherwise I don't enjoy it this much. And in EVE I strongly distinguish between in-game and out-of-game. I can like someone out-of-game, nevertheless I want to fight/beat/defeat him in-game. E.g. a corp mate has joined ATUK a few months ago. I like him, we had good fun. Now he's DICE and after BoB reset the standings, I was wondering, when I meet this old mate in the first battle and thought that it will be fun, when we shoot eachother e.g. in a fleet fight. I start to 'grin', when I just think about it. If I get the chance I'll pod kill him and he surely will do so, too. edit ok, perhaps not, seeing him floating in an egg would be fun enough and allow us to talk a bit.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2006.04.19 04:08:00 - [62] From my perspective there are some people that can't separate 'alliances' and 'friendships' into two different things. They take a change of goals (usually followed by standings) as some form of backstabbing, even when fair warning is given. It really is interesting to get hate mail from somebody who I've never met, seen or spoken to over the fact that my leaders no longer sleep with their leaders. Usually fades after a week, because real hate isn't based on defense. Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame.
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.04.19 07:38:00 - [63] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Kinsy Originally by: Shin Ra Eve is not a game. Its a way of life. Just like pink ties and hair products. Na, thats just cool. It's possible that Shin Ra has been exposed to the Thrak strain. We must conduct tests... .... Real men use blasters
Beringe	Posted - 2006.04.19 08:07:00 - [64] Originally by: Genyosha Akura Man you're hanging with nerds! So you caught the reference? ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Intensity Green	Posted - 2006.04.19 08:18:00 - [65] Just because you share some hard words with someone here does not mean you take this game very seriously. I can easily flame someone on these boards simply because it would be in character for me to do so and I think the person I'm flaming has made it justified through his retardness. What you write on the forums is seldom indicative of how serious you take this game. What you seem to want is that every kiddie****wit in this game whose posts border on retardation be met with a shrug and a friendly pad on the shoulder. Sorry, not gonna happen.
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.04.19 08:42:00 - [66] Originally by: Hast I would buy you all a drink, except Darko, cos he's underage Im 18 u****! Thats legal in england!
Emno	Posted - 2006.04.19 08:43:00 - [67] Edited by: Emno on 19/04/2006 08:42:43 Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: Hast I would buy you all a drink, except Darko, cos he's underage Im 8 u****! Thats legal in england! i can't help myself ;s
Morela	Posted - 2006.04.19 08:45:00 - [68] Its natural for people to get ****ed off when someone comes in and destroys all there hard work.. :) To think otherwise is just being dense :) _________________________________________________________ "TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO" - Buddrow of EXO.
Alberta	Posted - 2006.04.19 08:52:00 - [69] Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: Hast I would buy you all a drink, except Darko, cos he's underage Im 18 u****! Thats legal in england! Awwwwww, look at ickle Darko. Isn't he cute? My Thoughts on Game Balance
Gyro DuAquin1	Posted - 2006.04.19 08:56:00 - [70] best part is where ppl who have no idea about the player dpb tell how is he is and what kind of guy he is, but only knwo dpb as a iga char - gj. And yes i got a lot of hatemails, mostly cause i blew someone up or he wasnt able to blew me up. But hopefully this ppl get over their lose and and as soon as the dt hits their in game live they calm down a bit.

Hermia	Posted - 2006.04.19 09:43:00 - [71] Where ever theres competition, theres going to be emotion - as if we can avoid it! Certainly the community has it's 'over excitable' people, but thats never really bothered me. Quite the contary, emotion behind words makes eve FAR more interesting. IMO its not unnatural as people would suggest to be pasionate/angry/bitter over a virtual world, whats important is the bit thats not virtual, the real competition between players that makes eve just another platform to pit human intelect against each other. Its never nice when ugly emotions infiltrate the mainstream atmosphere, but thats life and it happens in the majority of any club formed around a particular sport/interest/hobby. Ex-Northern Citizen please dont mail me ingame atm, returning to eve in June
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.04.19 09:46:00 - [72] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse For me EvE is not "just a game". EvE is my hobby. EvE is the mates i play with and like so very much. I've always called eve a hobby instead of a game. I've always thought that distractions turn into hobby's when they start costing money :)
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.04.19 09:46:00 - [73] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse For me EvE is not "just a game". EvE is my hobby. EvE is the mates i play with and like so very much. I've always called eve a hobby instead of a game. I've always thought that distractions turn into hobby's when they start costing money :)
Shimpu	Posted - 2006.04.19 10:16:00 - [74] Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp Interesting to read this from someone in your position. Maybe you are just very good at delegating stuff and don't spend so much time in the game. But I still doubt you wouldn't cry like a baby and create plans for vengeance if someone took RKK or NOL from you for instance. In short: To achieve the level of excellence you achieved you have to take this game very serious ;)
Shimpu	Posted - 2006.04.19 10:18:00 - [75] Originally by: Hermia Where ever theres competition, theres going to be emotion - as if we can avoid it! Certainly the community has it's 'over excitable' people, but thats never really bothered me. Quite the contary, emotion behind words makes eve FAR more interesting. IMO its not unnatural as people would suggest to be pasionate/angry/bitter over a virtual world, whats important is the bit thats not virtual, the real competition between players that makes eve just another platform to pit human intelect against each other. Its never nice when ugly emotions infiltrate the mainstream atmosphere, but thats life and it happens in the majority of any club formed around a particular sport/interest/hobby. You take the words out of my mouth :)
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.04.19 10:32:00 - [76] Originally by: Shimpu Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp Interesting to read this from someone in your position. Maybe you are just very good at delegating stuff and don't spend so much time in the game. But I still doubt you wouldn't cry like a baby and create plans for vengeance if someone took RKK or NOL from you for instance. In short: To achieve the level of excellence you achieved you have to take this game very serious ;) What do you think my position is? ;) dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.04.19 10:39:00 - [77] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Shimpu Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp Interesting to read this from someone in your position. Maybe you are just very good at delegating stuff and don't spend so much time in the game. But I still doubt you wouldn't cry like a baby and create plans for vengeance if someone took RKK or NOL from you for instance. In short: To achieve the level of excellence you achieved you have to take this game very serious ;) What do you think my position is? ;) dbp Oh, wait!!! I know this one!! Curtian Designer!! Or was it Fleet Commander? Ummm... No? Errr... Lead Diplomat?! Bah... I suck at this game. - Who is the MC? Watch!
Seleene	Posted - 2006.04.19 10:42:00 - [78] On a more serious note, I have noticed more than one person for whom this game goes beyond the boundries of GAME. When it's your only hobby and your only friends are the ones you know from EVE, etc... That kind of thing is a bit spooky. Like... go outside and look at the big ball of fire in the sky sometime, ya know? Go meet people who don't understand what the word "n00b" means. They actually exist. Honest. - Who is the MC? Watch!
Hast	Posted - 2006.04.19 11:20:00 - [79] Originally by: Seleene On a more serious note, I have noticed more than one person for whom this game goes beyond the boundries of GAME. When it's your only hobby and your only friends are the ones you know from EVE, etc... That kind of thing is a bit spooky. Like... go outside and look at the big ball of fire in the sky sometime, ya know? Go meet people who don't understand what the word "n00b" means. They actually exist. Honest. those people you talk about, them outside? all noobs... me dont like them I cheat in poker
Shariona	Posted - 2006.04.19 11:24:00 - [80] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Seleene On a more serious note, I have noticed more than one person for whom this game goes beyond the boundries of GAME. When it's your only hobby and your only friends are the ones you know from EVE, etc... That kind of thing is a bit spooky. Like... go outside and look at the big ball of fire in the sky sometime, ya know? Go meet people who don't understand what the word "n00b" means. They actually exist. Honest. those people you talk about, them outside? all noobs... me dont like them Beleive me when Hast calls somebody a noob , then he IS a noob. Lol GOD is busy Can i help you?

aggro	Posted - 2006.04.19 11:28:00 - [81] the reason people take this game seriously is there is consequence for dieing. in wow, guildwars you die you lose nothing eve you lose isk, ships, mods which take an age to aquire sometimes. this is whats gives eve the buzz when you are going down and into structure you pulse quickens etc. it is addictive. as with all addictions people come to involved and cant seperate rl from virtual. this is just my take on it Where there is trouble you will always find AGGRO
Shimpu	Posted - 2006.04.19 11:30:00 - [82] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Shimpu Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp Interesting to read this from someone in your position. Maybe you are just very good at delegating stuff and don't spend so much time in the game. But I still doubt you wouldn't cry like a baby and create plans for vengeance if someone took RKK or NOL from you for instance. In short: To achieve the level of excellence you achieved you have to take this game very serious ;) What do you think my position is? ;) dbp Since I don't use alt spies or anything and never joined RKK: + You are a founding member of RKK + You once were the official CEO of RKK + You are some kind of RKK spokesperson on the forum (aka Forum *****!) + You write all those stories about RKK history for the pleasure of your members I may be totally wrong, but I always thought you were and still are some kind of motivator and "father" for RKK. I don't want to be understood as a fanboi, but you earned my respect. And respect isn't earned without dedication and hard work. I just doubt you take this game not a itzy bitzi serious. But then again I don't know you ;)
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.04.19 11:30:00 - [83] Originally by: Seleene On a more serious note, I have noticed more than one person for whom this game goes beyond the boundries of GAME. When it's your only hobby and your only friends are the ones you know from EVE, etc... That kind of thing is a bit spooky. Like... go outside and look at the big ball of fire in the sky sometime, ya know? Go meet people who don't understand what the word "n00b" means. They actually exist. Honest. Back in ur box please. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
Mariko San	Posted - 2006.04.19 11:33:00 - [84] Originally by: Avon I had some pretty light hearted chats at the London meet with people who's corpses I have in my hangar. I can't think of anyone there who was (overtly) holding any personal grudges from ingame events. You didnt notice that the beers they were handing you were a little warmer than usual? (j/k)
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.04.19 11:35:00 - [85] "What do you think my position is? ;)" You're just trying to get the thread locked by bringing the sex stuff into it, don't you... ... on second thought, could be just me >>
Blockoindi	Posted - 2006.04.19 11:37:00 - [86] Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 Just like the eve radio event this year, god i met so many peeps which included alot of enemies for in game, but i had a great laugh and a chuckle about it with everyone, and i think i bought em a pint, who knows i was plastered OMG the lies, everytime i was close to you, there were several attempts to gank me and steal my pint!!
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.04.19 11:44:00 - [87] Originally by: Shimpu I just doubt you take this game not a itzy bitzi serious. But then again I don't know you ;) Aye but that's the point, last year I stopped playing eve for 4 months over the summer, I can walk away anytime I want and not have a hint of regret. ofc I love the game when I'm playing and have a lot of fun doing so but if it got to the stage where I was actually worried about anything in the game or getting seriously stressed about anything that happened in the game or hurt by the abuse I got from people on the forums then I would be pretty silly. Life is too short to worry about stuff like that, you just gotta enjoy yourself where you can. If peeps ain't enjoying something and are getting upset, hurt or unhappy then change it. The people I'm talking about are divided into two categories: Firstly there are the ones who take it too seriously on the forums, the ones like Pugwash, Baun, Aneu who sychophantly follow BoB around because we took away something they once had. Look at people like Halseth, Cochise, Persh. We destroyed the north but they move on, go past it and just keep playing the game, having fun and they don't follow us around like little doggies hoping to get one up one us on the forums. Looking for a little verbal slip or mistake. The second is the type of player who will smash up his kb when he loses something, or punch the wall or scream or cry. I laugh when I lose a ship then talk about it with the guys for a while then get back into another one and do it again. The ability to not get overworked by losses of any sort is what got RKK to this position, we get knocked down, we laugh it off and we get back on with the next bit. Anyway, you all keep dragging me back into this thread, marine was talking as a generalisation of eve so like I said above, leave me out of it and respond to the OP. cheers, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Boonaki	Posted - 2006.04.19 12:02:00 - [88] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 19/04/2006 11:48:17 oh yeah and as to my position, galavet, dian, lassie, haze, dmz on top with me underneath alongside the rest of the rkk dudes ;) Dian loves being "underneath" the rkk dudes, although he sometimes also likes to be on top. signature removed - please email us if you want to know why - Oldmailman([email protected]) Oldmailman? I want one of the known mods to edit my sig, not some nobody!
Alberta	Posted - 2006.04.19 12:10:00 - [89] Originally by: Shimpu Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Shimpu Originally by: DB Preacher Peeps forget it's a game and take everything waaaaay too seriously. I think it's hilarious :D dbp Interesting to read this from someone in your position. Maybe you are just very good at delegating stuff and don't spend so much time in the game. But I still doubt you wouldn't cry like a baby and create plans for vengeance if someone took RKK or NOL from you for instance. In short: To achieve the level of excellence you achieved you have to take this game very serious ;) What do you think my position is? ;) dbp Since I don't use alt spies or anything and never joined RKK: + You are a founding member of RKK + You once were the official CEO of RKK + You are some kind of RKK spokesperson on the forum (aka Forum *****!) + You write all those stories about RKK history for the pleasure of your members I may be totally wrong, but I always thought you were and still are some kind of motivator and "father" for RKK. I don't want to be understood as a fanboi, but you earned my respect. And respect isn't earned without dedication and hard work. I just doubt you take this game not a itzy bitzi serious. But then again I don't know you ;) The thing is, I think there's a big difference between taking your game/hobby or whatever seriously and taking actions carried out within the game personally. The sooner people learn to make that distinction the better imo. For characters to hold a grudge over an extended period of time is fine imo. When those characters players don't RP in general though, I find it a little worrying and wonder if maybe they're missing that distinction. My Thoughts on Game Balance
Voltron	Posted - 2006.04.19 12:14:00 - [90] /me puts another coat of wax on his fleet of pixels Volt

Ripp Tyde	Posted - 2006.04.19 13:08:00 - [91] Originally by: Marine03112 I have found that folks i used to talk too that we now shoot cant keep the game in perspective. I think Molle did the best thing that he could have done to keep the game interesting and fun. Its fun to pvp and such well for me. I respect the folks in ascn and ts even though we shoot them. I guess someone who has seen real combat just doesnt take a game that seriously. Well we should enjoy a game that we play for leisure and keep the serious in RL. Thats my take on it. WOndering what other folks think? I still love ya baby Ripp Tyde DingleBerry Bear
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.04.19 13:10:00 - [92] Its only the people that cant step back from eve when its needed to further improve thier real life that need to worry. You can take the game as serious as you like aslong as it doesnt affect your real life in a negative way. Ive taken eve quite seriously in the past (I really dont now), but ive never let it destroy my real life, like i know some people that have.
Smith	Posted - 2006.04.19 13:14:00 - [93] Flying with Shinra and ATuk and now DICE I have learnt that its fun whatever side you are on. I used to let smacktalk get to me and I would bite. I look back now and I chuckle at how little I understood what EvE was for. EvE is about having fun and making other players cry and send you death threats.
fisty	Posted - 2006.04.19 13:19:00 - [94] Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: Hast I would buy you all a drink, except Darko, cos he's underage Im 18 u****! Thats legal in england! little popet... ciao
Ripp Tyde	Posted - 2006.04.19 13:22:00 - [95] as for me, i prefer it when ppl hate me. why? because it shows i am able to get under thier skin by many different means. smack, skills, ok mostly smack but it works. id hate to be the guy everybody loves. Ripp Tyde DingleBerry Bear
Jade Alexandre	Posted - 2006.04.19 13:44:00 - [96] I remember reading a post a few months ago from some poor guy who was in a pirate corp and had podded someone, then the next day got a RL death threat phone call. The guy he had podded tracked his ingame character to a website then found out who owned the website and got the guys number. Now THAT is what I call a lack of perspective. I enjoy playing Eve and like getting involved in the in-game politics, but its just a form of escapism like anything else, even if it does involve a substantial time investment and more interaction than most other entertainment mediums. I can see how it could be very addictive if you let it, but I'd never let it interfere in anything I do in RL. There's enough things to get stressed, upset and angry about in RL without adding another layer onto it. Everything in moderation (including moderation)
VonKaplanek III	Posted - 2006.04.19 13:52:00 - [97] I would NOT classify EvE as a game..... Checkers is a game. Eve is a hobby that is 100 x's better than stamp colleting.
Bazman	Posted - 2006.04.19 13:58:00 - [98] Originally by: VonKaplanek III I would NOT classify EvE as a game..... Checkers is a game. Eve is a hobby that is 100 x's better than stamp colleting. Only 100? ----- Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.
Aleika	Posted - 2006.04.19 14:53:00 - [99] Edited by: Aleika on 19/04/2006 14:55:11 Edited by: Aleika on 19/04/2006 14:54:50 Originally by: DigitalCommunist From my perspective there are some people that can't separate 'alliances' and 'friendships' into two different things. They take a change of goals (usually followed by standings) as some form of backstabbing, even when fair warning is given. It really is interesting to get hate mail from somebody who I've never met, seen or spoken to over the fact that my leaders no longer sleep with their leaders. Usually fades after a week, because real hate isn't based on defense. If u place u ingame goals over u friends, u take this game too seriosly, isnt it? :) If some1 say me, we have another goals so we start shoot u and then after some time they want to come back to be a friends again, but i simple cant trust such ppl. I believe in such thing like friendship, trustworthy and so. ppl. who think its cool to say "dont take it personaly" should grow a bit :) PS. English is not my naitive language. Signature Removed, Signature rules are 400x120 pixels and 24000bytes filesize. More here. - Eshtir
Invisible Touch	Posted - 2006.04.19 16:47:00 - [100] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse For me EvE is not "just a game". EvE is my hobby. EvE is the mates i play with and like so very much. What the "enemy" said One of the hobbies for me. For many though its a job they make a living from, for some its a chance to lead when they are RL followers, for some its a long game of backgammon, for some its a chance to say Hi Mom!, for some its writing a thesis, for some its like CS. Be all you can be ...in Eve There is no black and white, good vs evil in Eve. Only shades of grey all coloured by self-interest.

Sunburn	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:53:00 - [101] I totally agree with you marine on this subject, this game has replaced real life for some, i know some people do it to escape from pressures, but it can change your personality. I seen people in real life, spending countless hours on games and forgetting who they sitting with at the time, even a person died from playing games for too long. Computer games after all little bits of code that some clever people have put together to entertain the world.
Lowa	Posted - 2006.04.19 20:59:00 - [102] There is a safe bet to say that there are people taking this game way to serious and no matter how they try and say they are not on this forum it shines through. And the fact the CCP have had to hire personal Security for some events prove this in a way that is not pleasant at all. Some, however, realized it was going downhill and tuned down a bit on the personal things. Remembering GNW we are quite a few that inofficially have agreed that it must not happen again (pretty sure its impossible as well). I only get **ed when loosing ships when I can not do anyting about it like lag, Scanner bugs, bad calls (on my part) but it normally goes away quite fast. Now, Console playing(NES, PS, Xbox etc), now THAT still makes me scream and throw stuff around when that frikkin "Snake P/Mario/soldier/race car" doesnt follow my commands. In short: when playing console games, its always** the console games fault that you die/fall/crash. 'nuff said! Cheers, LOWA NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
Blood Gutter	Posted - 2006.04.20 06:11:00 - [103] Edited by: Blood Gutter on 20/04/2006 06:12:37 Eve is much more of a hobby than a game. So we're like those people who build model trains, except we're building model nations. And we all know about the guy who locks himself in the basement for months at a time to work on his train set...
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.04.20 08:06:00 - [104] Edited by: Vishnej on 20/04/2006 08:12:38 Originally by: Blood Gutter Edited by: Blood Gutter on 20/04/2006 06:12:37 Eve is much more of a hobby than a game. So we're like those people who build model trains, except we're building model nations. And we all know about the guy who locks himself in the basement for months at a time to work on his train set... And our little people we position in the stations or lying bound on the tracks, are real people. It is not, and has never been "Just a game." Yes, it does qualify as a game under any number of definitions, but we all realize it is something more. A game becomes something more when someone is willing to play for hours at a time by themself or with people they don't know and don't care to interact with in order that they are able to perform better later on. It stops being just a game when people are willing to sacrifice parts of their offline lives - spouses, jobs, friends - for advancement. It stops being just a game when you can meet a future wife or someone you would hurt IRL (say, a corpthief) in it, when you can have an entire social life without leaving the confines of the game. It stops being just a game when your account being deleted is reason for a personal feeling of loss. Whether the defining qualities are fundamental (Would you be angered or pained by losing your character) quantitative (How many hours of the last week have you put in) or qualitative (How does your online social life compare to your offline social life) I don't think anyone can compare Eve to something like, say, Tetris. Whether or not you qualify for the above, you're playing against people that do - and so that is the definition that's used. Where the computer game ascended to something more can be pinpointed to hundreds of fundamental changes - the first person that was employed by playing a game, the first in-game marriage/funeral, the first time players had a persistent character and a persistent world to put him in. I like 'the first time someone would have become angry if they had to make a new account'. Contribute to the Eve Wiki
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.04.20 08:17:00 - [105] People point at "This dude died of dehydration because he wouldn't get up from his computer" and say that that's the point. Politics is just a game to see who gets to make decisions. A job is just a game that decides whether you have money (points) to put into things you enjoy. Literature is just a game to have more people reading your work than your peers. Science is just a game to discover principles that cooperate with other principles, before your peers. The first time a person died because of politics, their job, their writings, or their discoveries is not the first time those things became more than a mere game. Contribute to the Eve Wiki
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.04.20 08:23:00 - [106] To address the original point: People treat things seriously instead of laughing it off when they invest lots of time in seeing things succeed. Would you work at getting the money to buy say, a sculpture and then not care when a friend came over and bumped it off its pedestal and destroyed it? It's just a shape. A Picasso is just a doodle. A dollar bill is, at its heart, just a frame and series of pictures and words and numbers. But you'd be ****ed if someone stole it. If you coached a football team, would you "take it seriously" instead of "keeping it in perspective" if someone else was appointed as coach in the championship game? It's just a game. Contribute to the Eve Wiki
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2006.04.20 08:29:00 - [107] Originally by: Jade Alexandre I remember reading a post a few months ago from some poor guy who was in a pirate corp and had podded someone, then the next day got a RL death threat phone call. The guy he had podded tracked his ingame character to a website then found out who owned the website and got the guys number. Now THAT is what I call a lack of perspective. I enjoy playing Eve and like getting involved in the in-game politics, but its just a form of escapism like anything else, even if it does involve a substantial time investment and more interaction than most other entertainment mediums. I can see how it could be very addictive if you let it, but I'd never let it interfere in anything I do in RL. There's enough things to get stressed, upset and angry about in RL without adding another layer onto it. Everything in moderation (including moderation) It really sucks tbh,I have had similar things happen to me in the past year. And to be honest I have taken eve very serious actually to the point I am almost paranoid,because there are alot of really weird and creepy people out there. I mean when I am weird and creepy I try to do it as a joke and for a laugh but I have known several in game friends who have left due to harassment and on a couple ocassions I myself have nearly left because people have taken in game stuff to far. CCP can really only do so much. Secondly I think theres a differance between seriously and too seriously,serious is getting ticked off at losing a ship,to serious is having a mental breakdown over losing a badger full of trit then tracking the dude who poded u down irl.
Eskiban Vlasic	Posted - 2006.04.20 16:45:00 - [108] I love going out and losing ships. I love yammering about nonsense with random people on TS. I love smacking in local, and I love getting smack back. But I especially love that I can turn my computer off at the end of the day, kiss my fiance, and not give a crap about what just happened. I'd hate to be one of those people who's life revolves around a game. - Vlasic of TW Fame The Suicidal Newb F.R.E.E. Explorer
Shiwan Khan	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:53:00 - [109] plain and simple there are many people ingame that, to be perfectly honest, are nerds with no social life. Granted not everyone is like this but that does not change the fact that they are still out there. Their lives revolve around EVE and when things happen they take it as a personal attack instead of a simple twist in the game. I would apologize to anyone i offended in this post but i wont, because if you were offended by this, chances are you are one of the people i described above. -Shiwan Khan "TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO" - Buddrow 2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage.
Roule	Posted - 2006.04.21 00:12:00 - [110] Originally by: Marine03112 I have found that folks i used to talk too that we now shoot cant keep the game in perspective. I think Molle did the best thing that he could have done to keep the game interesting and fun. Its fun to pvp and such well for me. I respect the folks in ascn and ts even though we shoot them. I guess someone who has seen real combat just doesnt take a game that seriously. Well we should enjoy a game that we play for leisure and keep the serious in RL. Thats my take on it. WOndering what other folks think? What? this is a 'GAME'? Good job you told me, i was just about to head down to the Space Pub in jita to start ma shift

Orb Lati	Posted - 2006.04.21 01:19:00 - [111] (sorry if mentioned before) I think one of the reasons players tend to get a bit personal about EVE is the simple fact that losses can equate to alot of play time wasted for an individuals. And when you add insult to injury by smack or trash talking indivuals if you happen to inflict that loss (or able to exploit it) then i think its quite understandable that players will tend to get a tad annoyed and want vengence. "We worship Strength because it is through strength that all other values are made possible"
Specture	Posted - 2006.04.21 08:10:00 - [112] Edited by: Specture on 21/04/2006 08:12:12 Wait?!?!?!?!? EVE...... isn't real??!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!? bawls MY LIFE ... wait i don't play this game that much nvm :P. Proof some people take this game too sireously (we pirated this guy and he spewed out obsenities like there was no tommorow. Apa and I were laughing our asses off cowers behind a corner hopeing he censored it enough for the young eyes edit: oh yea lizaa is really a minmitar guy
LennyKravitz	Posted - 2006.04.21 14:14:00 - [113] I never reply to the forums but this topic is much relavent to my frame of mind the other night. Remember the Corp who runs the whole show: CCP >>>>>> Crowd - Control - Productions <<<<<< The other night at work 10 kids were fighting 5 kids (16-17 yr olds). One of them pulled out a knife. One of them went to the hospital. Why? We all know why? Nothing to do. I'm Bored. What if they were all flying Faction Battleships in 0.0. And someone pulled out a torpedo? Worst case senerio they would have woke up in a clone. -------------------- I'm heading over to "Jita Bar" to grab a drink with the other guy, I hope they got good computers there and a super fast T1 connection. Cheers. -CCP- When are we getting the remote skill options to change skills on the go?
Rick Dentill	Posted - 2006.04.21 15:08:00 - [114] Imagine your hobby was say an outdoor railway in your garden, and you spent many many hours setting it up and painting little people to stand at the platforms making miniature trees, etc etc. Then one day a bunch of kids came along and trampled it all over it and smashed it up. I am getting you would be pretty peeved. For many people who play EVE they devote much of their free time to playing and building, acruing etc etc etc. So when they lose it, yeah they get a bit annoyed. A hobby is a hobby. Me I lose enough out of my own stupidity to not be bothered by it, but I do understand why people do take things so seriously. _______ http://x-universe.kiwi.nu/page.php?id=dd
Cipher7	Posted - 2006.04.21 15:37:00 - [115] Well its funny because you can be on the boards like "Heeey relax its just a gaaame" but when something bad happens you're still pi$$ed off. Can any of you claim that you have NEVER been pi$$ed off IRL? Its like doom 3. Yeah its just a game, but playing it at night, you still wet your pants. Thats the hallmark of a good game, suspention of reality. Eve is a game thats designed not to feel like a game.


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