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SonOTassadar
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:07:00 -
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You know, I see a lot of posts about people being podded, about how it sucks because they lost implants and have to purchase a new clone and the like. Often I see people saying they were just hit by a gate-camp. This leads me to wonder two things: Do you have instas and are you in VOID territory? I was podded once.... back in Beta. Since I created a new account I've so far never been podded. I've come across everything except alliance fleet battles, and I still have yet for anyone to pod me. Sure, I've lost ships -- I just lost a retriever last week to a pirate. He was in an Assault Frigate: one of the best tracking ships in the game. I still didn't get podded -- I simply right-clicked open space, and warped to the first station I could click. I had enough time to think of using my instas, so that put me at more ease, but I'm still certain I would have gotten away even without instas. So therein lies the question:
How does one actually get podded unless they don't know the mechanics (IE It takes a long time to target a pod, pods can be killed, pods can warp very quickly)?
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Nukeitall
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:12:00 -
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There are any number of factors. Interdictors. Lag. Confusion. Shock. Sometimes people just want to clone jump. Smarts are also a fan favorite.
All these things and more contribute to a podding. There are also any number of random issues that can also play their hand and cause you to go squish.
(I myself was only podded once, a mega jumped in on my little punisher with large smarts. Endgame.)
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:14:00 -
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Shock.
That got me the first time. Years ago, my Thorax gets jumped by two Battleships. I was just left  and they podded me.
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xStormwingx
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:14:00 -
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not everyone has enough time to escape :P
It seems that when I get podded I simply can't warp out in time. I've right clicked and am jamming the left mouse button like made but i get locked/scrambled before my pod manages to get into warp. Or, I accidentally miss where i want to click in my haste.
But I'm usually not one to complain, I got killed fair and square and I never use implants anyway. And sometimes its just not worth the hassle to warp out, might as well get podded for a free trip back home.
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:14:00 -
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Alot of people, go rabbit in headlights when underattack, also alot of people forget about explosion lag when your ship gets popped. Many ways out of it with practice and restraint
Eject if you know your ship is gonna blow this can give you valuable seconds always have the auto pilot set for a system that will warp you away from your current location, if your scrambled and you know your going to blow hit the auto pilot and the couple of seconds of client lag effect should be reduced, best of all just use insta's
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 18/04/2006 21:21:39
Aside from the many clone jumps, I have died maybe 5-6 times in battle.
Once from asshats using the convo exploit so I could not select the gate to jump...
And many other times due to the lag when your ship blows up, target locked b4 the lag ends...
I was never podded when they had the double-click to warp option...
It sucked that we have that piece of crap radial menu now, that this is about useless, and probably causes many pod deaths...
Plus, sometimes if I lose my ship I purposely stay to get podded, as opposed to fly back in a pod...
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KaraThrace
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:17:00 -
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The first few times you get podded. Your so shocked and confused you cant do anything after a few poddins you arnt so shooken
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SonOTassadar
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:22:00 -
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Question: Smartbombs. How do they lead to podding?
Statement: Yeah, that whole radial thing is bullcrap. It's so hard to get things done sometimes because I have to find where the bubble 'isn't'. Still, after figuring out the best way is to just zoom out as far as possible as quickly as possible, I find that that only accounts for roughly 2 seconds, when a pod takes 6 seconds to lock on to in a frigate (correct me if I'm wrong -- I've never targetted a pod).
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themule
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Edited by: Bhaal on 18/04/2006 21:21:39
Aside from the many clone jumps, I have died maybe 5-6 times in battle.
Once from asshats using the convo exploit so I could not select the gate to jump...
And many other times due to the lag when your ship blows up, target locked b4 the lag ends...
I was never podded when they had the double-click to warp option...
It sucked that we have that piece of crap radial menu now, that this is about useless, and probably causes many pod deaths...
Plus, sometimes if I lose my ship I purposely stay to get podded, as opposed to fly back in a pod...
Go to options, find where it say radial on left click, switch it to middle mouse button.
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themule
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: SonOTassadar
when a pod takes 6 seconds to lock on to in a frigate
Somtimes a fly a crow with a sensor boost instead of a web, it takes about 1 sec.
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SonOTassadar
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: themule
Go to options, find where it say radial on left click, switch it to middle mouse button.
/me hugs themule.
<3 You.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: themule
Originally by: Bhaal
Edited by: Bhaal on 18/04/2006 21:21:39
Aside from the many clone jumps, I have died maybe 5-6 times in battle.
Once from asshats using the convo exploit so I could not select the gate to jump...
And many other times due to the lag when your ship blows up, target locked b4 the lag ends...
I was never podded when they had the double-click to warp option...
It sucked that we have that piece of crap radial menu now, that this is about useless, and probably causes many pod deaths...
Plus, sometimes if I lose my ship I purposely stay to get podded, as opposed to fly back in a pod...
Go to options, find where it say radial on left click, switch it to middle mouse button.
What tab is that under?
I'm so excited! I guess I missed the patch where this was fixed!
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themule
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
What tab is that under?
Generic
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Aeina Caeraen
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Aeina Caeraen on 18/04/2006 21:30:13
Originally by: SonOTassadar
Question: Smartbombs. How do they lead to podding?
Smartbombs require no locking, so if you're close enough to your target when their ship is blowing up, you simply cycle (2?) large smartbombs to destroy their pod.
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SonOTassadar
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: SonOTassadar on 18/04/2006 21:37:44
For anyone still wondering, this is the setting he is talking about:
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MortyM
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:39:00 -
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I have been podded at total of 4 times in my entire eve-life.
The first one was in my first week of playing, it was the first time I ever got attacked by a player and I was just unable to do anything 
The second time I got insta podded by missile splash damage after losing my ship, thank god they removed that.
The third time a corp mate podded me, we were sitting at a safe after a fight that didn't go so well and somebody asks to be podded for a clone jump home, he locks the wrong pod and sends me to the cloning station instead 
Fourth one was an encounter with 2 smartbombing battleships -_-
It's pretty easy to avoid it most of the time, but sometimes you just will get podded and theres nothing you can do.
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MellaRinn
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Posted - 2006.04.18 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: SonOTassadar
Question: Smartbombs. How do they lead to podding?
Statement: Yeah, that whole radial thing is bullcrap. It's so hard to get things done sometimes because I have to find where the bubble 'isn't'. Still, after figuring out the best way is to just zoom out as far as possible as quickly as possible, I find that that only accounts for roughly 2 seconds, when a pod takes 6 seconds to lock on to in a frigate (correct me if I'm wrong -- I've never targetted a pod).
Takes about <2 seconds with decent skills on a t1 incursus frigate
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Vampire Skull
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Posted - 2006.04.18 22:11:00 -
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Warp bubble
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Antiochus
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Posted - 2006.04.18 22:54:00 -
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when you know you are going to lose your ship, find a random planet in the background, click on it once. in the selected item window, start spamming the warp to button. unless warp bubble or smartbombs, youll get out 99 times out of a hundred.
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Lefia
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Posted - 2006.04.19 00:29:00 -
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I've been podded twice. The first time I was in a shuttle exploring the cloud region. AFK'd at a gate and went to make a sandwich (I was all of 3 weeks old at the time) and I came back just in time to watch a Raven volley my shuttle with torps. I was so shocked that all I could manage to do was set my pod to approach the gate I was afking 10km away from. Didn't take him long to finish the job.
The second time was to 2 megathrons and a crow in PF-346. Was mining DO and had them warp in on me. Got my ship stuck on a roid trying to warp out and they scrmbled and blew up my ship. Unluckily the crow had been scramblind and webbing me in order to let the throns get within SB range when my ship blew. Not sure how many SBs they hit me with, but I woke up in a clone sure enough.
I'm rather glad of my jump clones now, I'm rather klutzy so I can forsee getting podded again before too much longer.
Originally by: hired goon
I agree with every point and counter point that has been brought up in this and every other argument ever had.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.19 00:38:00 -
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Well, not that I give up, but if you lose you lose...
I don't see it being a disgrace to lose you pod...
I'm not saying to give your ship killer a free shot, but they blew up your ship, you don't "win" because your pod gets away...
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MysticNZ
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Posted - 2006.04.19 00:41:00 -
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Pirates don't normally pod because of the sec damage. Podding normally only happens in 00 or when i'm bored.
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.04.19 00:47:00 -
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the Planetside player in me says podding is 100% untactical, best to destroy their ride and make them "Hoof" it back to a place where they can regear then killem and let em spawn at a place where they most likely have ships ready to fly.
of course explore when your SPs are low and implants arent common yet so its much cheaper of a loss.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.04.19 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
the Planetside player in me says podding is 100% untactical, best to destroy their ride and make them "Hoof" it back to a place where they can regear then killem and let em spawn at a place where they most likely have ships ready to fly.
of course explore when your SPs are low and implants arent common yet so its much cheaper of a loss.
Fights are so short that even if you pod somebody and their clone is in the same system, the chances of them being able to reinforce their mates in time is slim. Of course many don't even have that, a lot of the people I pod end up complaining to me because their clone station was in empire.
Podding is also usually way more significant a loss than the ship itself, and inflicting the most damage is more tactical than.. not. Theres also the violation factor, where you can upset some people by stroking their corpse with gleeful delight, and its good to make people angry. They tend to fight more, and make more mistakes.
If its a system with many hostiles, podding those without ships clears up local and lets commanders see a more accurate representation of hostiles. But really, I'd rather local didn't exist at all (OMG MAYA RKELL IS GOING TO HURT ME FOR HAVING AN AGENDA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh).
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SonOTassadar
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Posted - 2006.04.19 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
the Planetside player in me says podding is 100% untactical, best to destroy their ride and make them "Hoof" it back to a place where they can regear then killem and let em spawn at a place where they most likely have ships ready to fly.
of course explore when your SPs are low and implants arent common yet so its much cheaper of a loss.
On the contrary, I have also played Planetside. It is best to completely eradicate your opponent. In the case of Eve, that would mean to pod. Therefor, he has sustained the most damage. Any implants have been lost, and he now has to purchase a new clone. He is now either training slower or is out a good portion of his ISK.
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.04.19 01:47:00 -
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ahh i was a reaver pilot so many dog fights drifed pretty far from the lines and as such i could make them run rather then zap back to a respawn on the lines.
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