Originally by: Kakita J

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Edited by: Kakita J on 19/04/2006 13:20:50
If you only want one specific missile spec, you're better off than turret users. In your example, you could now use small, medium and large T2 pulse lasers, where the other guy can only use T2 torps and nothing else.

Say you want to train ALL laser specs (pulse and beam). The missile guy wants to train ALL missile specs.

Turret guy needs following lvl 5 skills (x Rank):
small turret (x1)
medium turret (x3)
large turret (x5)
motion pred (x2)
sharpshooter (x2)
gunnery (x1)
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total: rank 13, effectively (plus 2 small specs (x3) and 2 med specs (x5) at lvl 4)


Missile guy needs the following at lvl 5:
cruise (x5)
torp (x4)
heavy(x3)
standard (x2)
rockets (x1)
missile ops (x1)
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total: rank 16

Factor in the fact that missile support skills have (slightly) higher rank than turret support skills and it doesn't sound so much in missile user's favor, eh? And btw, it's not like you wouldn't train the missile support skills because you don't technically _need_ them to fit modules.

edit: forgot gunnery

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Originally by: smallgreenblur

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Edited by: smallgreenblur on 19/04/2006 13:25:58
uh... not really... you need the specialist skills for small and med to train large. You've pointed this out but not included it in your maths. The end result would be 16 rank 5s for missiles and 30 for gunnery. So yes, it still looks unbalanced to me.

sgb

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Originally by: Flash Landsraad

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Edited by: Flash Landsraad on 19/04/2006 12:29:00
Is it me or are T2 missile launcher skill trees highly unfair towards gunnery pilots?

If I want to use for example T2 large pulse lasers I have to train:

Small Energy Turret lvl 5
Motion Prediction lvl 3
Small Pulse Laser Specialisation lvl 4
Medium Energy Turret lvl 5
Motion Prediction lvl 4
Medium Pulse Laser Specialisation lvl 4
Large Energy Turrey lvl 5
Motion Prediction lvl 5
Large Energy Turret Specialisation lvl 1

If someone wants to use T2 siege launchers they have to train:

Torpedos lvl 5
Missile Launcher Operation lvl 4
Torpedo Specialisation lvl 1

I seem to be missing something here - how is that fair?

If someone could please enlighten me I would be very greatful. And to the missile users out there please no flaming - I am looking for an explanation not an insult slugging fest resulting in a locked topic.

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Originally by: Jim McGregor

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Im not sure if it makes up for it, but as a missile user you really want both Torpedoes and Cruise to be at 5 which is lots and lots of training.

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Originally by: Krulla

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Originally by: Jim McGregor

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Im not sure if it makes up for it, but as a missile user you really want both Torpedoes and Cruise to be at 5 which is lots and lots of training.

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Oh poooor poooor you.

Let's see what skills I trained to use both tech II long and short range hybrids?

Large hybrids 5 - Large railguns 4 - Large blasters 4
med hybrids 5 - Medium Railguns 4 - Med Blasters 4
small hybrids 5 - Small railguns 4 - Small blasters 4
Sharpshooter 5 - Motion prediction 5

Let's see what you trained for tech II long and short range missiles?

Torpedoes 5 - Torpedo spec 4
Cruise missiles 5 - Cruise spec 4

Ohnoes! Poor missile users!

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Originally by: Tinknadel

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On the same note, Large T2 Guns get boni from small , medium and large specialization, as the guns require all three.

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Originally by: Wrangler

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...why do you people always have to verbally assault each other over things that doesn't matter anyway?

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