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Brother Benthor
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Posted - 2006.04.19 18:44:00 -
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Here is the first website im designing for a in-game corporation. The project is under development and already got me 2 RL job offers.
I wanted you guys to take a peek and leave your comments :) enjoy
Astraia Corporation Website
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Brother Benthor
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:03:00 -
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no comments :(
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:05:00 -
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It looks great, but it should be bigger. It needs to kill some of the "empty" that surrounds it. That's all for me though. GJ.
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:05:00 -
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I assume its still under construction?
Its a very good website, nicely designed, loads fast, has a interesting...floaty...feel about it.
9 out of 10!
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Mang0o
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:07:00 -
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forget about your website and make me my banner i need i for 40m  dooo it doooo it dooooooo it.. ive bought many from you 
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Berak FalCheran
it's nice :-)
but i hate flash :-(
Flash makes my trousers extra tight
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:11:00 -
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it's nice :-)
but i hate flash :-(
In short: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Brother Benthor
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: mirel yirrin
I assume its still under construction?
Its a very good website, nicely designed, loads fast, has a interesting...floaty...feel about it.
9 out of 10!
thx :) and if u resize your browser it it has Real Time repositioning
Originally by: Kurren
It looks great, but it should be bigger. It needs to kill some of the "empty" that surrounds it. That's all for me though. GJ.
Have to check the content space, and see if it needs resize, its optimized for 800x600 resolution
Originally by: Mang0o
forget about your website and make me my banner i need i for 40m dooo it doooo it dooooooo it.. ive bought many from you
Wont be able to help you here :) my design service has been halted untill this website is finished (1-2 weeks max)
Originally by: Berak FalCheran
it's nice :-)
but i hate flash :-(
You a coder/programmer? ;) they tend to hate flash
Originally by: mirel yirrin
Originally by: Berak FalCheran
it's nice :-)
but i hate flash :-(
Flash makes my trousers extra tight
I get the same feeling everytime i Design a good Flash Website :)
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:20:00 -
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I need a Anime based siigggggggg 
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Brother Benthor
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Posted - 2006.04.19 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: mirel yirrin
I need a Anime based siigggggggg
All my other design services are halted for the moment, u can order one later when its back up
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MonkeyDrummer
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Posted - 2006.04.19 20:17:00 -
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very nice indeed BB
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Megri
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Posted - 2006.04.19 20:22:00 -
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speed the graphics up, I hate waiting on sites...
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2006.04.19 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Benthor
Originally by: Berak FalCheran
it's nice :-)
but i hate flash :-(
You a coder/programmer? ;) they tend to hate flash
good call
In short: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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Tiridus
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Posted - 2006.04.19 20:40:00 -
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Its a nice site, looks good, a bit complex and the background is too "crowded" for my liking, but im an abstract minmalist sorta guy... Definately cool though. well put together, and good position planning.
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.04.19 20:43:00 -
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It's flash. I hate you.
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Originally by: ParMizaN
i think ive done it a couple of times and nearly done it a lot.
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Brother Benthor
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Posted - 2006.04.19 20:50:00 -
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thk you for the nice comments/critics so far guys :) the website will always be updated there, so if u want to keep track of the project, just follow that link. I will reply to this post so i can follow the feedback of the eve-comunity.
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2006.04.19 21:15:00 -
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Love it, im sure ive seen something similar around before tho, im sure i have, nice tho, good work
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Brother Benthor
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Posted - 2006.04.19 23:34:00 -
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members list under development, so all menu buttons link there while developing
(clear your temporary internet files if u still see the old version)
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Denrace
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Posted - 2006.04.19 23:41:00 -
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Looks pretty swish.
But...
Flash can be annoying if everything you click on vibrates or flickers and some users will just get irritated and close the browser down.
Other than that, looks nice.
Den
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.19 23:49:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 19/04/2006 23:52:37
its nice flash, but it's still flash.
and inline style is bad Mmmkay. To float things in the center using css...
<style type="text/css">
body { background:#333 url(backgroundimg); margin:0; padding:0; text-align:center; }
#embededFlash { margin:auto; }
</style>
Assign the id embededFlash to the flash's container (a div tag would be lovely) and it'll be center aligned. you can then set margin-top:whatever; or you can use teh abbreviated form which is shorter margin:top auto*; replacing 'top' with the amount you want to shift the flash down. Think about a percentage value - liquid layouts are win.
Remember that any % velues you put in the css are reletive to their parent element unless you've specified position:absolute, so if you know your flash will only ever be Xpx * Ypx, its cool to hardcode it's size.
also, declare a doctype, and since what you've got there isn't actually xml you can probably kill the xml related attributes in the head tag. leave the lang attrib though, that's still relevant and nobody ever remembers to use them.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.20 00:04:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 20/04/2006 00:04:03
...and i think you've ****** up the code embedding the object a little bit.
I know its an unfair test since its not even finished and yuo probably don't give a monkey toss about the html, but if you hit it up with the w3c online validatior you can see some of the areas its currently deficient in.
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fbrother-benthor.planetaclix.pt%2Fastraia_temp%2Fastraia.html
If you want, and if i have time at work tomorrow (between whoring the forum and chain smoking) i'll see if i can't rustle up some compliant html for ya.
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Brother Benthor
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Usul Faust
Edited by: Usul Faust on 20/04/2006 00:04:03
...and i think you've ****** up the code embedding the object a little bit.
I know its an unfair test since its not even finished and yuo probably don't give a monkey toss about the html, but if you hit it up with the w3c online validatior you can see some of the areas its currently deficient in.
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fbrother-benthor.planetaclix.pt%2Fastraia_temp%2Fastraia.html
If you want, and if i have time at work tomorrow (between whoring the forum and chain smoking) i'll see if i can't rustle up some compliant html for ya.
You'r right ;) flash developers don't give a !"#$ about HTML, but im always willing to learn more :)
Thk u for the tip and the URL :) gonna take a look at it and ask a HTML coder friend of mine a few pointers.
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Tiridus
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:17:00 -
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I love HTML! its suprisiingly versitile... but not as versitile as potato waffles...
You can make really nice professional looking html sites with photoshop and dreamweaver, its useful stuff.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 21/04/2006 19:23:21
Flash based websites are fine as long as they are FAST AND EASY TO USE.
That means they don't hog all your CPU, they don't have any 10-second animations to do things, and they're FUNCTIONAL.
99% of flash websites are not done properly, and thus suck.
So far, I like this
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:50:00 -
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except asp. which is ****.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 21/04/2006 19:52:46
Pure flash sites are bad for a whole sackful of reasons. Accessability, Downloads time, Dependancies & Maintinance are some of my favorites. Flash is a tool, and a great one at that, but not for whole sites.
You could construct a site entirely out of anchor tags, but it's not really the best thing for the job.
repeat the mantra: Markup structure, css style, script behaviour.
Each one is designed so if another isn't available the site degrades gracefully and still serves its purpose - to convey information.
Sure, flash is more than just animation, but it's not an all purpose solution. Every design agency i've worked with produces flash sites that could have been constructed more effectively and more effectively by combining technologies.
and yes, i left asp/php/ruby/whatever out. asp/php/ruby/whatever is great too.
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Brother Benthor
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Posted - 2006.04.21 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Usul Faust
Edited by: Usul Faust on 21/04/2006 19:52:46
Pure flash sites are bad for a whole sackful of reasons. Accessability, Downloads time, Dependancies & Maintinance are some of my favorites. Flash is a tool, and a great one at that, but not for whole sites.
You could construct a site entirely out of anchor tags, but it's not really the best thing for the job.
repeat the mantra: Markup structure, css style, script behaviour.
Each one is designed so if another isn't available the site degrades gracefully and still serves its purpose - to convey information.
Sure, flash is more than just animation, but it's not an all purpose solution. Every design agency i've worked with produces flash sites that could have been constructed more effectively and more effectively by combining technologies.
and yes, i left asp/php/ruby/whatever out. asp/php/ruby/whatever is great too.
1.1) Accessability: Faster and newer computers make this no longer a problem in most flash websites (ok some guys go to the extreme and fully use action script and RL functions in Action Script that simply overload your CPU.
1.2) Download time: New broadband connections (always upgrading) allow flash to almost dont have the need for preloading in many websites this days (they all have, but u hardly see them now).
1.3) Dependancies & Maintinance: Plugin takes 1 minute to download and flash in combination with PHP requests is a powerfull tool u can do almost everything.
2) flash can load HTML webpages (not with all TAGS but the most important) as well as CSS files so u can make them all look just like a HTML webpage, u can see a good example in the first CC Generals Website.
3) flash is the future of the internet, fully interactive websites, and with the touchscreen future aproaching the possibilitys are HUGE (i have tested this, and currently working on a touchscreen + flash big project)
4) i can design a full aplication using flash and PHP, no question about it, cause already did once (and am atm with the touchscreens)
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.21 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Benthor
3) flash is the future of the internet, fully interactive websites, and with the touchscreen future aproaching the possibilitys are HUGE (i have tested this, and currently working on a touchscreen + flash big project)
Flash is the future of the internet in the same way that PDF is the future of the document. It isn't.
The most popular pages on the internet are all very simple, very plain HTML pages.
People don't want fancy buttons, they want something that works. For a corp page, sure, its fine, and may be quite useful, but I have yet to see a corporate website or other such thing made out of flash that was anywhere near useful.
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.21 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Benthor
Originally by: Usul Faust
Edited by: Usul Faust on 21/04/2006 19:52:46
Pure flash sites are bad for a whole sackful of reasons. Accessability, Downloads time, Dependancies & Maintinance are some of my favorites. Flash is a tool, and a great one at that, but not for whole sites.
You could construct a site entirely out of anchor tags, but it's not really the best thing for the job.
repeat the mantra: Markup structure, css style, script behaviour.
Each one is designed so if another isn't available the site degrades gracefully and still serves its purpose - to convey information.
Sure, flash is more than just animation, but it's not an all purpose solution. Every design agency i've worked with produces flash sites that could have been constructed more effectively and more effectively by combining technologies.
and yes, i left asp/php/ruby/whatever out. asp/php/ruby/whatever is great too.
1.1) Accessability: Faster and newer computers make this no longer a problem in most flash websites (ok some guys go to the extreme and fully use action script and RL functions in Action Script that simply overload your CPU.
1.2) Download time: New broadband connections (always upgrading) allow flash to almost dont have the need for preloading in many websites this days (they all have, but u hardly see them now).
1.3) Dependancies & Maintinance: Plugin takes 1 minute to download and flash in combination with PHP requests is a powerfull tool u can do almost everything.
2) flash can load HTML webpages (not with all TAGS but the most important) as well as CSS files so u can make them all look just like a HTML webpage, u can see a good example in the first CC Generals Website.
3) flash is the future of the internet, fully interactive websites, and with the touchscreen future aproaching the possibilitys are HUGE (i have tested this, and currently working on a touchscreen + flash big project)
4) i can design a full aplication using flash and PHP, no question about it, cause already did once (and am atm with the touchscreens)
... and people say that Eve is full of pimply faces kids with nothing better to do...
I'm impressed to say the least!
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Dalieus Dakarn
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Posted - 2006.04.21 22:53:00 -
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/me takes a nap while waiting for the site to load.
Webpages should be designed around the slow transfer speeds of 56k. I know it's dumb.. "Everybody is at broadband or better!" Except for businesses that don't see it as cost effective, or people that don't live in areas where broadband is offered.
Flash sites are very load intensive. On the 56k connection at work, this site has been loading for 15 minutes, and still going.
Just remember to keep that in mind when designing a website for corporate uses. :) I'll have to wait until I get home to look at it. This is annoying. hehe.
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