The only other option I see is when warping to a gate use the click menu to warp jump. However this leaves 5 seconds or so for them to target you before the gate jumps you. This is too long.

Hello,

I have become smarter with everything since loosing my first ship. I have a MWD and cloak 2 now and have been practicing the MWD plus cloak trick in high sec until getting good at it. The problem is approaching a stargate. When I lost my ship to that gate camp it was not from coming in it was from approaching it. The trick is only for coming in. How do you safely approach a gate? I have tried using the approach to w/n 100 km but this is not far enough away and there is no option for further. Not only that but approaching the gate from this distance takes forever especially if cloaked. The only other option I see is when warping to a gate use the click menu to warp jump. However this leaves 5 seconds or so for them to target you before the gate jumps you. This is too long.

So is there a good method for approaching a gate just like there is for jumping in using the MWD and cloaking 2?

Thanks!

This was the answer I was assuming. That it would be virtually impossible to target me warp jumping to the gate with the click menu. I just wanted to make sure before I died again through ignorance. Bookmarking to a safe spot >100km away to "scope" it first would seem unnecessary than I guess? However for stations it sounds like a great idea, especially in low sec.

Thanks again.

You can be damaged while "in warp". You cannot be locked, meaning standard guns will not be able to shoot you, but you can be smartbombed and bombed (<- Not 100% sure on this second point). Luckily, smartbombs do have a minimum distance from gate at which they can be activated, but a well positioned smartbombing BS might still hit your ship.

Since no one has mentioned it yet, another step you should take before warping to a gate is to warp to a nearby celestial and do a narrow directional scan on the gate. This should tell you if there are any hostiles waiting there. If you don't know how to use d-scan do a bit of googling as it's a major part of staying safe in hostile space.

Using d-scan on gates is especially important when you go out to null, since bubbles can pull you out of warp at funny ranges and make you very sad that you warped directly to the gate. (D-scan will not only show enemy ships, but also warp disruption bubbles, assuming your overview settings are correct).

Isn't dscan different than the overview? I know there is an option in dscan to use overview settings. Is this what you mean?

I am still learning dscan. Would increasing certain skills as well as purchasable things help give me a better way of determining range? I know things like planets show up with a range but ships do not seem to unless they are very close in overview. How close do you have to be to a ship to have it show on the overview? I almost find the overview gives me better information about people coming up into my immediate area.

Isn't dscan different than the overview? I know there is an option in dscan to use overview settings. Is this what you mean?

I am still learning dscan. Would increasing certain skills as well as purchasable things help give me a better way of determining range? I know things like planets show up with a range but ships do not seem to unless they are very close in overview. How close do you have to be to a ship to have it show on the overview? I almost find the overview gives me better information about people coming up into my immediate area.

I am still learning dscan. Would increasing certain skills as well as purchasable things help give me a better way of determining range? I know things like planets show up with a range but ships do not seem to unless they are very close in overview. How close do you have to be to a ship to have it show on the overview? I almost find the overview gives me better information about people coming up into my immediate area.

I am sure I have seen instalocking ships pop pods on outgates (pods that had manually hit 'jump') and I know I've done it myself on stations.

The overview shows objects "on-grid" with you (about 250 km). D-scan lets you see objects which are not "on-grid" with you within your specified range (max is about 14 AU). This means you can warp to a planet 2 AU away from the gate and check it for (uncloaked) ships without actually warping on to the grid.

Is there an area of invulnerability around the stargate when warping out?

Sometimes when I warp to 0 at a gate my ship will be hung up for a bit before it warps (not talking about if I end up farther away from the gate and have to motor to it).

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Warping "to 0" can sometimes indeed land you just outside of jump range which makes you approach the gate for a couple seconds before jumping. It's usually not a big deal, but can be very scary when there are hostiles on the gate with you.

Also, pro tip: try to distinguish between warping and jumping for the sake of clarity. Warping is traveling from place to place within a system. Jumping is using a jump gate, wormhole, jump drive, jump portal, or jump bridge to get from one system to another. They are fundamentally different, and using the same word for them can lead to confusion.