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Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:29:00 -
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o7 all!
I am not a very experienced player; somewhere between 1 and 2 years under my belt. I'm sure it's been done many times before, but just thought it'd be fun to start a new account and try to play Eve without spending any (real) money whatsoever and ask if anyone would like to join me!
In my opinion, making the money to pay for the Eve subscription and then using the ISK you make in-game to have fun is the best way to play Eve - as it is just that, a game. However, as a challenge, I am going to freeze my current account and try to play this game entirely for free!
I'm going to try this using the 21-day trial from a buddy invite, and will probably begin some time in the next fortnight.
Anyone is welcome to join, however, I posted this on the forums with the aim of mainly attracting players with around 1+ years experience who either have problems funding their accounts or would simply like to have a go at playing for free!
Let me know, and fly safe :)
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
392
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:36:00 -
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Getting some losec planets and selling P2s (the sweet spot for most PI, P3s break even and P4s currently sell for less than they cost to make) will get you about 25% of your monthly subs straight away. |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
48
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:39:00 -
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Blodgharm Takeda wrote:o7 all!
I am not a very experienced player; somewhere between 1 and 2 years under my belt. I'm sure it's been done many times before, but just thought it'd be fun to start a new account and try to play Eve without spending any (real) money whatsoever and ask if anyone would like to join me!
In my opinion, making the money to pay for the Eve subscription and then using the ISK you make in-game to have fun is the best way to play Eve - as it is just that, a game. However, as a challenge, I am going to freeze my current account and try to play this game entirely for free!
I'm going to try this using the 21-day trial from a buddy invite, and will probably begin some time in the next fortnight.
Anyone is welcome to join, however, I posted this on the forums with the aim of mainly attracting players with around 1+ years experience who either have problems funding their accounts or would simply like to have a go at playing for free!
Let me know, and fly safe :)
So you are going to open and close accounts to see how much isk you can make in 21 days.
To feed your main account I can tell you not that much at all because you need to train your skills up to get into better ships for the LvL 4 missions.
I for one has kept this account going for 7 + years now and I use plexes to pay for this account.
So you will not win at all doing what you are doing and it takes along time to train SP so what you are doing is useless.
BTW Good Luck in trying
I am not a CCP employee-ájust having a input in the EvE forum
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Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:40:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Getting some losec planets and selling P2s (the sweet spot for most PI, P3s break even and P4s currently sell for less than they cost to make) will get you about 25% of your monthly subs straight away.
Ah, cheers for advice mate, had a brief go at that before, will definitely start there then.
Thanks again :) |
Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:44:00 -
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45thtiger 0109 wrote:Blodgharm Takeda wrote:o7 all!
I am not a very experienced player; somewhere between 1 and 2 years under my belt. I'm sure it's been done many times before, but just thought it'd be fun to start a new account and try to play Eve without spending any (real) money whatsoever and ask if anyone would like to join me!
In my opinion, making the money to pay for the Eve subscription and then using the ISK you make in-game to have fun is the best way to play Eve - as it is just that, a game. However, as a challenge, I am going to freeze my current account and try to play this game entirely for free!
I'm going to try this using the 21-day trial from a buddy invite, and will probably begin some time in the next fortnight.
Anyone is welcome to join, however, I posted this on the forums with the aim of mainly attracting players with around 1+ years experience who either have problems funding their accounts or would simply like to have a go at playing for free!
Let me know, and fly safe :)
So you are going to open and close accounts to see how much isk you can make in 21 days. To feed your main account I can tell you not that much at all because you need to train your skills up to get into better ships for the LvL 4 missions. I for one has kept this account going for 7 + years now and I use plexes to pay for this account. So you will not win at all doing what you are doing and it takes along time to train SP so what you are doing is useless. BTW Good Luck in trying
Thanks for the post!
In essence, I just wanted to have a go at running an account for free from scratch. As much as l4s generate a lot of isk, it's not the only way to generate enough to plex an account is it? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
517
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:45:00 -
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With current PLEX prices around the 630 million mark, that's quite a bit for a new character to grind out without a subscription.
So what are you thinking in terms of potential incomes that will earn the ISK just to be able to play at all, let alone have fun.
Scamming, ninja looting, market trading (very slowly at first)?
You certainly won't be able to grind that sort of ISK out in missions, mining or other similar professions.
eve-bazaar- Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings drives your ISK further. |
Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:50:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:With current PLEX prices around the 630 million mark, that's quite a bit for a new character to grind out without a subscription.
So what are you thinking in terms of potential incomes that will earn the ISK just to be able to play at all, let alone have fun.
Scamming, ninja looting, market trading (very slowly at first)?
You certainly won't be able to grind that sort of ISK out in missions, mining or other similar professions.
Very valid point.
Like you say, there's no chance of achieving this through missioning and such. I originally thought PI and trading would be the main two, although the less honest means like scamming etc are very viable :)
I might add that generating enough to earn a plex in the first 21 days is the priority but I would very much like to have a bit of fun on this new account as well. Not gonna be a total grind!
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
4948
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:54:00 -
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The Making ISK guide has some ideas which would be suitable for a low-SP character.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:57:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:The Making ISK guide has some ideas which would be suitable for a low-SP character.
Thank you for the advice! Just had a read, I'm sure it'll come in handy.
Cheers again :)
The section marked 'Various Acts of Dubious Morality' is looking more and more appealing - especially in the beginning :) |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
245
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:01:00 -
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Playing eve for free makes it a second job 
Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Lakshata Chawla
Blue-Fire
96
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:02:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:Playing eve for free makes it a second job
You mean..... its not? |
Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:04:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:Playing eve for free makes it a second job
Exactly what I thought the time I tried it on my main account! The only defense I have in this case is that I'm trying this as a project. I agree, it will be a bit of a grind in the beginning, but I believe it will become less of a job in the future :) |
Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:14:00 -
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Just wanted to quote something I just found on that Evelopedia page:
"The goal is not "maximise ISK/h". The goal is typically "maximise both ISK/h and fun/h with an acceptable exchange rate between ISK and fun". Some people find mission running fun. Some people find ratting fun. Some people find manufacturing fun. Some people find micromanaging buy/sell orders fun."
Trying this as I want to see if it's possible to play Eve for free and from scratch. I intend to have fun doing this. If it really turns out to be too much of a chore, I'm happy to start paying again - I'm not mad :) |
DaReaper
Net 7
The Last Brigade
218
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:39:00 -
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if you can get into a c3 wh with the right setup you can solo some if not all the sites fairly easily. Depending on how fast you do them, you can net around 300m an hour. But that's clearing a site every 10 min and getting lucky in nano ribbons. My 3 chars can clear a c3 site around every 10 min. so its do able, i'm not sure how quickly you can solo though. |
Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
106
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:44:00 -
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Faction Warfare... with 1-4day old char you can make easy 500m-1b isk in 1-2weeks in cheap t1 frig
People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back - this is EvE |
Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:56:00 -
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Cheers chaps, those both sound pretty appealing. Don't suppose either of you fancy joining be or teaching me!?
Also, I would have thought C3s would be out of the question for a brand-new toon, wouldn't it require a decent amount of training? |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Journies End
218
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Posted - 2014.03.06 01:28:00 -
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Id second the FW alt thing from the start up to get isk right away. Toughest part there will be LP conversion to a trade hub in relative safety with a new character.
Then train up your toon to do whatever else you really enjoy. Also PI passive is a good idea as well. But to make isk and not wait for skills itll be FW and low sec.
Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace |
Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 01:55:00 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:Id second the FW alt thing from the start up to get isk right away. Toughest part there will be LP conversion to a trade hub in relative safety with a new character.
Then train up your toon to do whatever else you really enjoy. Also PI passive is a good idea as well. But to make isk and not wait for skills itll be FW and low sec.
Sounds ideal, I think this is what I'll try. Never done Faction Warfare before. What exactly does it entail and what is the profitable part? Really know nothing in this area... |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
520
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Posted - 2014.03.06 02:07:00 -
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Blodgharm Takeda wrote:Sounds ideal, I think this is what I'll try. Never done Faction Warfare before. What exactly does it entail and what is the profitable part? Really know nothing in this area...
Grab a punisher, fit 4 warp core stabs in the lows, a prototype cloak in the highs, then go sit within 30 km of a button (better to defensively plex contested systems initially so you aren't agressed by the NPCs).
Fall asleep and wait until the plex is capped. Rinse and repeat.
If you are killed by a neutral, just get podded too.
Not only is it a quicker ride back to a new ship, but you can sell the kill rights on the character and generate more ISK too (even on players with pirate standings, some people act faster then they think and you can get paid).
eve-bazaar- Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings drives your ISK further. |
Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 02:10:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Blodgharm Takeda wrote:Sounds ideal, I think this is what I'll try. Never done Faction Warfare before. What exactly does it entail and what is the profitable part? Really know nothing in this area... Grab a punisher, fit 4 warp core stabs in the lows, a prototype cloak in the highs, then go sit within 30 km of a button (better to defensively plex contested systems initially so you aren't agressed by the NPCs). Fall asleep and wait until the plex is capped. Rinse and repeat. If you are killed by a neutral, just get podded too. Not only is it a quicker ride back to a new ship, but you can sell the kill rights on the character and generate more ISK too (even on players with pirate standings, some people act faster then they think and you can get paid).
Damn, that sounds really good. Does the actual afk capture make you much in the way of lp? (I'm assuming it's lp you earn - sorry for noob...) |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
520
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Posted - 2014.03.06 02:14:00 -
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Blodgharm Takeda wrote:
Damn, that sounds really good. Does the actual afk capture make you much in the way of lp? (I'm assuming it's lp you earn - sorry for noob...)
The AFK bit was a bit of a joke. If you really are going to be afk then just use rookie ships and no need to fit stabs or a cloak since you can't make use of them away from your keyboard (well a cloak you can but then you can't cap a plex).
It's just that sitting on a button for 20 minutes is really, really tedious.
LP payout depends on the type of plex and defensive plexing is not as lucrative as offensive plexing.
eve-bazaar- Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings drives your ISK further. |
Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 02:18:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Blodgharm Takeda wrote:
Damn, that sounds really good. Does the actual afk capture make you much in the way of lp? (I'm assuming it's lp you earn - sorry for noob...)
The AFK bit was a bit of a joke. If you really are going to be afk then just use rookie ships and no need to fit stabs or a cloak since you can't make use of them away from your keyboard (well a cloak you can but then you can't cap a plex). It's just that sitting on a button for 20 minutes is really, really tedious. LP payout depends on the type of plex and defensive plexing is not as lucrative as offensive plexing.
Ahh alright :)
Well thanks for the help, gonna look into it and give it a go!
Cheers again! |
Divine Entervention
The Lonetrek Militia
Rapidus Incitus Pactum
100
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Posted - 2014.03.06 02:21:00 -
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To me this feels like CCP advertising to all the potential long term subscribers who joined after the B-R5RB promotion.
It's crafted well. |
Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force
Cult of War
2173
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Posted - 2014.03.06 03:12:00 -
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Scamming and trading will be the only feasible ways for you to make 630 mil in 21 days. It's been done before, I remember seeing a guide for it somewhere on youtube or something but I can't find it right now.
Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Ralen Zateki
Nexis.
League of Infamy
93
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Posted - 2014.03.06 03:30:00 -
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Blodgharm Takeda wrote:o7 all!
I am not a very experienced player; somewhere between 1 and 2 years under my belt. I'm sure it's been done many times before, but just thought it'd be fun to start a new account and try to play Eve without spending any (real) money whatsoever and ask if anyone would like to join me!
In my opinion, making the money to pay for the Eve subscription and then using the ISK you make in-game to have fun is the best way to play Eve - as it is just that, a game. However, as a challenge, I am going to freeze my current account and try to play this game entirely for free!
I'm going to try this using the 21-day trial from a buddy invite, and will probably begin some time in the next fortnight.
Anyone is welcome to join, however, I posted this on the forums with the aim of mainly attracting players with around 1+ years experience who either have problems funding their accounts or would simply like to have a go at playing for free!
Let me know, and fly safe :)
Bah! Be a real man and cruise around with a bunch of bought PLEX in something like a Navy... err... nevermind.... |
Grymmstorm
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 04:02:00 -
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Garnoo wrote:Faction Warfare... with 1-4day old char you can make easy 500m-1b isk in 1-2weeks in cheap t1 frig
Sounds like I might need to try that...Can you fleet up with alts and get rewards on all of them? |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
394
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Posted - 2014.03.06 04:09:00 -
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If the point of this exercise is simply to get an account that never paid subs, its relatively easy. If you have not got 600 mill after 3 weeks (a difficult task) start a new 3 week character and transfer the ISK you have made so far from the old one to the new one. Rinse and repeat as often as needed.
You could also feasibly create a batch of 3 week characters and pool the ISK.
NOTE If you are intending to do PI with a trial character you are probably one of the 4 or 5 people in all of EVE who actually have a use for the Primae. Trial characters cannot fly industrials and Command Centes are 1000 M3 in size and hence too big for frigates and destroyers. Also note that trial characters can fly a Gnosis Battlecruiser if you can get your hands on one. |
Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.07 01:38:00 -
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Thanks for the posts chaps. All very helpful.
Like the idea of just pooling the isk, in particular if I fail! Thanks for that Hasikan :) |
Blodgharm Takeda
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.07 01:40:00 -
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Grymmstorm wrote:
Sounds like I might need to try that...Can you fleet up with alts and get rewards on all of them?
If you're down to have a go of this mate, give me a shout if you wanna duo for a bit :)
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
1049
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Posted - 2014.03.07 02:33:00 -
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I haven't payed any real life money to play Eve in over 7 years, and I have only been playing 8. Wish they still had the 90 day GTCs for under 200 million ISK though, lol. |
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