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Psycron
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Posted - 2006.04.22 04:30:00 -
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I started my character not long ago, so ofc it will take quite some time before I can get my Intradictor, however I might as well work on getting the skills right from the start.
Bascially I am trying to decide between a Minmatar Sabre and an Amarr Heretic.
At first I was only looking at the Sabre due to the high maximum velocity, however I noticed that the Heretic has 1 more low slot, which will bascially allow me to raise the maximum velocity higher than the Sabre. On top of this the Heretic has better capacity/cap-recharge and better shield and armor, so atm my best guess would be that the Heretic would be better.
The biggest drawback atm seems to be that the Heretic doesn't support turrets to the same extend as the Sabre, and tbh I favor projectile turrets above missiles for most situations.
Anyway - which Intradictor is most viable and what are the downsides to the 2 Intradictors I am looking at?
I suppose I will go for the Sabre in the end because of the 7 turret slots which should make it pretty cool for close combat.
The main functionalities I am looking for are:
- Speed
- Lockdown capeability
- Damage output
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gojira mothra
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Posted - 2006.04.22 05:40:00 -
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I have no idea on most viable but the flycatcher looks dead sexy, 6 missle turrets is like a mobile frigate popper :)
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Linavin
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Posted - 2006.04.22 06:16:00 -
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The sabre is unique in that it isn't a missile focused/hybrid missile ship like the others. It does very good damage with those 7 turrets, so if your not really into missiles I would reccomend the Sabre
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Degale
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Posted - 2006.04.22 14:09:00 -
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dont get a sabre, with the fall off bonus, the damage bonus, and the large tracking bonus small T2 autocannons suck. Add into that that they require next to nothing to fit you wont be able to fit much more on that nice sexy sabre. The is also not really anthing you could put in the sabres 4 sexy midslots. Get a heritic all the way.
The views expressed in this post are from a pilot who probably hopes to get a sabre in the not to distant future and is trying to drive the price down with bad hype.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.22 14:13:00 -
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Well they are both fast.
They can both lauch interdiction spheres, that means they lock down all ships in the bubble.
Damage output? They both do decent damage, anyway, its a support ship its not there as a damage dealer.
So go with the one you prefer personally.
(P.S) The heretic has a larger capacitor because it uses cap for its weapons
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Forsch
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Posted - 2006.04.22 14:23:00 -
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Isn't the only difference frigate V? Doesn't take long to train at all (at least when compared to the other skills needed).
Get both and see for yourself.
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.04.22 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Degale
dont get a sabre, with the fall off bonus, the damage bonus, and the large tracking bonus small T2 autocannons suck. Add into that that they require next to nothing to fit you wont be able to fit much more on that nice sexy sabre. The is also not really anthing you could put in the sabres 4 sexy midslots. Get a heritic all the way.
The views expressed in this post are from a pilot who probably hopes to get a sabre in the not to distant future and is trying to drive the price down with bad hype.
i love your response 
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.04.22 15:05:00 -
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I fly both. Here are my thoughts:
Heretic:
2 choices. Uber tank or uber speed. With uber tank, you have over 300 armor with good resistances, but no weapons. Uber speed uses 3 nanos, but very likely to die.
Sabre:
More of an all rounder. You can fit a 400 plate, nano, a full rack of autocannons, dual web and a disruptor (you'd be surprised how handy this is on an interdictor).
Also, interdictors are not for soloing. Do not set them up this way. Its one of the most group oriented ship classes in the game.
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Psycron
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Posted - 2006.04.22 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Also, interdictors are not for soloing. Do not set them up this way. Its one of the most group oriented ship classes in the game.
This may be as noobish as my first question - anyway... why is it that an Intradictor aint the best solo ship in the game?
After intercepters they have the fastest base speed in the game and you can fit more fire power on them than any of the smaller turbo solo ships ?
To me it would seem that this ship is probably the ship in the game that can solo most other ships while having the attacking role?
- Warp in?
- Lock down/immobilze the target?
- Unload an oblivion of damage? 
For all I know about the game this should work - however my knowledge about the game is quite limited at this point, which is probably why some of you can tell me why this doesn't work as good in game as it does in theory?
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Gaul Cascade
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Posted - 2006.04.22 16:04:00 -
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Psy, for all it's T2-ness, the Interdictor is still only a destroyer. And it doesnt have the awesome resists most T2 versions get, and its base HP are not able to tank anything.
Basically, you warp in, speed towards your target, release the sphere and warp out while the rest of your gang does the killing. Also can't use the spheres in Empire, obviously.
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FFGR
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Posted - 2006.04.22 16:23:00 -
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All the Interdictors get a bonus to their racial enemies. They just don't get Assault (aka tank) bonuses like AF, HAC, Logistics, Recons and Transports do (big list, ain't it ?  )
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Linavin
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Posted - 2006.04.22 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gaul Cascade
Psy, for all it's T2-ness, the Interdictor is still only a destroyer. And it doesnt have the awesome resists most T2 versions get, and its base HP are not able to tank anything.
Too true, while they may seem good they still don't kill cruisers very well. A week ago I took down a sabre in my omen solo. Well fitted tech I cruisers still tend to rip them apart.
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.22 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Linavin
Originally by: Gaul Cascade
Psy, for all it's T2-ness, the Interdictor is still only a destroyer. And it doesnt have the awesome resists most T2 versions get, and its base HP are not able to tank anything.
Too true, while they may seem good they still don't kill cruisers very well. A week ago I took down a sabre in my omen solo. Well fitted tech I cruisers still tend to rip them apart.
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VanDam
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Posted - 2006.04.23 00:52:00 -
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yah the flycatcher is awesome 6 rocket launchers lubly and even a long range flycatcher would b the sex0r!!
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The Punsisher
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Posted - 2006.04.23 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: The Punsisher on 23/04/2006 00:51:54
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Mr Peanut
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Posted - 2006.04.23 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Psycron
Originally by: Shin Ra
Also, interdictors are not for soloing. Do not set them up this way. Its one of the most group oriented ship classes in the game.
This may be as noobish as my first question - anyway... why is it that an Intradictor aint the best solo ship in the game?
After intercepters they have the fastest base speed in the game and you can fit more fire power on them than any of the smaller turbo solo ships ?
To me it would seem that this ship is probably the ship in the game that can solo most other ships while having the attacking role?
- Warp in?
- Lock down/immobilze the target?
- Unload an oblivion of damage?
For all I know about the game this should work - however my knowledge about the game is quite limited at this point, which is probably why some of you can tell me why this doesn't work as good in game as it does in theory?
Interdictors lack solo ability because, like previously mentioned, they are still destroyers, and destroyers are good in combat at killing FRIGATES. So, yes, if you want a T2 frigate pwnmobile, you may be able to use an interdictor. However, their small weapons (which, while charictaristically many, have limited firepower that is made up for by tracking and explosion radius (depending on weapon type) among other things (once again, frigate pwnmobile)) and limited defenses keep them from tearing cruisers apart as well as some might expect. All in all, interdictors are made for their uberful bubbles, and mainly their uberful bubbles. Therefore, IMO you should fit your ship so that you can deploy your uberful bubbles at maximum efficiency, safety, etc, and then maybe add some damage or frigate pwnage capability (AB/MWD, webifer/scrambler anyone?). Leave the HAC/BS gank to the HAC/BS'es--you just worry about stopping their warp and possibly filling a few other tactical roles (frigate pwnage, light electronic warfare (depending on the ship)). Remember: you're a pirate! Yarr!
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B0rn2KiLL
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Posted - 2006.04.23 07:02:00 -
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Edited by: B0rn2KiLL on 23/04/2006 07:02:22
Originally by: VanDam
yah the flycatcher is awesome 6 rocket launchers lubly and even a long range flycatcher would b the sex0r!!
raven with 4nanos/1bcu, 6 standards, 4 painters and an invuln/XL ftw?
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Ysolde Xen
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Posted - 2006.04.23 07:31:00 -
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I'm loving my Sabre at the moment because I've got it set up to do what my Thrasher does only better becasue it's quicker and lackst he RoF penalty. It's not what the Sabre is meant for but at the moment its Interdictor function isn't needed and I hate to see such a fun ship sit in a hangar gathering dust 
I think that outside the Interdiction sphere launcher role, the Sabre is definitely one of the more flexible and capable Interdictors for doing whatever else in. So far, it's beaten AFs and T1 cruisers but I wouldn't dare send it up against anything tougher on its own.
Don't know about the Heretic, Amarr T2 ships are not an area I'm overly familiar with.
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Helene Troi
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Posted - 2006.04.23 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ysolde Xen
I'm loving my Sabre at the moment because I've got it set up to do what my Thrasher does only better becasue it's quicker and lackst he RoF penalty. It's not what the Sabre is meant for but at the moment its Interdictor function isn't needed and I hate to see such a fun ship sit in a hangar gathering dust
I think that outside the Interdiction sphere launcher role, the Sabre is definitely one of the more flexible and capable Interdictors for doing whatever else in. So far, it's beaten AFs and T1 cruisers but I wouldn't dare send it up against anything tougher on its own.
Don't know about the Heretic, Amarr T2 ships are not an area I'm overly familiar with.
Share your fit???
Right now, T2 arty Thrasher is my favourite ship to fly and I want a T2 baby!!!
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.04.23 19:43:00 -
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When are they going to bring intradictors out then?
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Ernest Graefenberg
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Posted - 2006.04.23 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Linavin
Originally by: Gaul Cascade
Psy, for all it's T2-ness, the Interdictor is still only a destroyer. And it doesnt have the awesome resists most T2 versions get, and its base HP are not able to tank anything.
Too true, while they may seem good they still don't kill cruisers very well. A week ago I took down a sabre in my omen solo. Well fitted tech I cruisers still tend to rip them apart.
Retards in Sabres for the lose. He should have no trouble both jamming and outrunning you if he isn't smoking pole.
Yeah, I've taken one down in a rupture with t1 small blasters and overdrive injectors (it was all that was on station, don't laugh). Just because some people are really, really bad doesn't mean the ship is.
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.04.23 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ernest Graefenberg
Originally by: Linavin
Originally by: Gaul Cascade
Psy, for all it's T2-ness, the Interdictor is still only a destroyer. And it doesnt have the awesome resists most T2 versions get, and its base HP are not able to tank anything.
Too true, while they may seem good they still don't kill cruisers very well. A week ago I took down a sabre in my omen solo. Well fitted tech I cruisers still tend to rip them apart.
Retards in Sabres for the lose. He should have no trouble both jamming and outrunning you if he isn't smoking pole.
Yeah, I've taken one down in a rupture with t1 small blasters and overdrive injectors (it was all that was on station, don't laugh). Just because some people are really, really bad doesn't mean the ship is.
Nos + web = no jamming + no running away. Plus when they drop that annoying bubble thing they can't get away from drones for a fair while :) Except when they jump out. Cos scrambling everybody within 20ks isn't an agressive act...
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