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Doc Iridium
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Posted - 2006.04.22 06:09:00 -
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Here's the scenario I'm trying to figure out.
I already know how to hunt NPC haulers with zero risk, but it's painfully slow. I would like to simply kill them while tanking the sentries, and have a hauler buddy pick up the loot cans.
What reaction is there from Concord ships, if any? If you attack next to a Concord station, will Concord ships as well as sentries open up? What about if you attack haulers that actually originated from Concord?
Is there any scenario where attacking NPC haulers would cause Concord ships to attack in addition to sentries?
Now, sentry guns - are highsec sentry guns tankable? Are their damage types predictable by race?
I am preparing to start operating a POS soon, and the idea of actually buying the non-ice requirements is really annoying :)
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duffmantt
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Posted - 2006.04.22 10:46:00 -
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Edited by: duffmantt on 22/04/2006 10:46:55
its the amount of sentry guns. i think a station in 1.0 has atleast 4...maybe 6? sentry guns.
sentry guns do all damage types.
2 sentry guns can be tanked for a long time, but 6 would b nigh impossible. (you would definatly need a battleship, even if it is possible)
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DaMiGe
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Posted - 2006.04.22 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: DaMiGe on 22/04/2006 12:11:11
I remember my newbie times, when i jumped into a 0.5 still being flagged.
I lasted less then 5 seconds, its a total rape.
edit: in a shieldtanked scorpion
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dailyhazard
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Posted - 2006.04.22 12:15:00 -
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 Originally by: DaMiGe
Edited by: DaMiGe on 22/04/2006 12:11:11
I remember my newbie times, when i jumped into a 0.5 still being flagged.
I lasted less then 5 seconds, its a total rape.
edit: in a shieldtanked scorpion
you suck :(
i dd that once and approached the gate and rejumped to low sec 
guess its just luck though
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.04.22 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: dailyhazard
Originally by: DaMiGe
Edited by: DaMiGe on 22/04/2006 12:11:11
I remember my newbie times, when i jumped into a 0.5 still being flagged.
I lasted less then 5 seconds, its a total rape.
edit: in a shieldtanked scorpion
you suck :(
i dd that once and approached the gate and rejumped to low sec
guess its just luck though
no, you wouldnt have been flagged. If you jumped into high sec flagged, you will die. There is absolutely no way you can survive it.
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Doc Iridium
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Posted - 2006.04.22 19:14:00 -
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I suppose I'll have to make a Disposa-Maller and tank it up, to see what the strength of response is.
Nobody indicated that Concord Ships will attack, so even if there are six sentries, an Apoc with t2 tanking gear, near max tanking skills, and tanking bonus implants should last long enough to gank haulers, provided that I align for exit first.
As for the fellow who said it was impossible that a scorpion that was flagged could not have gotten out of a system... If this occurred long enough ago, it is possible that that scorpion might have been much faster than any scorpion you will ever pilot today - it used to be possible to stack afterburners and mwd devices. If I remember correctly it was possible to get a scorpion up to 120km/sec for about 5 seconds :) If he was shield tanked, then he wasn't going that fast, but he might have had 1 MWD and 1 or 2 AB's fitted, which would have given him quite a nice turn of speed if all three were activated at once. |
duffmantt
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Posted - 2006.04.22 21:06:00 -
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no, you wouldnt have been flagged. If you jumped into high sec flagged, you will die. There is absolutely no way you can survive it.
cheski tanked the police in a 0.5 for 12 minuites before jumping back thru into 0.4 i believe. (in a zealot)
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Zomiaen
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Posted - 2006.04.22 21:14:00 -
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Attacking convoys? Theres been a few threads about how to do it without sentry response....let me try and dig them up
Originally by: Ninjja
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B0rn2KiLL
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Posted - 2006.04.23 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: B0rn2KiLL on 23/04/2006 00:17:41
Originally by: dailyhazard
Originally by: DaMiGe
Edited by: DaMiGe on 22/04/2006 12:11:11
I remember my newbie times, when i jumped into a 0.5 still being flagged.
I lasted less then 5 seconds, its a total rape.
edit: in a shieldtanked scorpion
you suck :(
i dd that once and approached the gate and rejumped to low sec
guess its just luck though
happend to me witha megathron. tanked well.
it was a bit difficult approaching the gate.. being webbed by concord and all.
but then again it was a 1.0 systemm ..
edit: yes i blew up.
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Doc Iridium
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Posted - 2006.04.23 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zomiaen
Edited by: Zomiaen on 22/04/2006 21:20:21
Edited by: Zomiaen on 22/04/2006 21:20:04
Attacking convoys? Theres been a few threads about how to do it without sentry response....let me try and dig them up
Edit- Aha, found it.
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The trick to the NPC convoys is faction. Pick a system with 2 stations that are NOT the same corporation.
Pick your starting station and wait while the convoy forms up. Once it's formed they'll start aligning towards the other station and fly out to 150km before they warp. Once they warp, you warp to their destination at 100km. Wait till they arrive and you can gank them at will, since the station they are near now is not thier corporation the sentry guns will not protect them. You will take faction penalties for this but not security penalties and Concord will not do anything.
Just remember, inbound convoys are OK, outbound will get you popped. The only exception to this rule is if you have two or more stations under the same corporation, any convoy flying between corp owned stations will be defended at both ends.
Ya, I know this method, and have used it a few times, but it's too slow and annoying. I'm hoping to be able to speed up the process a bit :) |
Patric Murphy
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Posted - 2006.04.23 06:38:00 -
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Just make sure you are atleast more than 150km away from the closest sentry gun. Get the convoy between you and the station then have your budy pick up the loot.
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DaMiGe
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Posted - 2006.04.26 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: dailyhazard
Originally by: DaMiGe
Edited by: DaMiGe on 22/04/2006 12:11:11
I remember my newbie times, when i jumped into a 0.5 still being flagged.
I lasted less then 5 seconds, its a total rape.
edit: in a shieldtanked scorpion
you suck :(
i dd that once and approached the gate and rejumped to low sec
guess its just luck though
Lol want to bet for 1 Billion isk, that you cant survive it?
And why do i suck again?
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Sol Basso
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Posted - 2006.04.26 14:51:00 -
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I have a feeling concord dont get involved unless the convoy is 'owned' by concord (you'll know what this means if youve been doing convoy hunting the 'long' way)
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Suladriel
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Posted - 2006.04.26 15:07:00 -
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Is it REALLY worth using a t2 filled BS? Surely NPC hauler loot isn't THAT good!
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Posted - 2006.04.26 15:20:00 -
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You can survive if you accidently jump up to highsec.
People do not differentiate between CONCORD, Navy and Customs.
CONCORD = Near InstaDeath.
Navy and Customs = Normal NPC ships.
Just all depends on the luck of the draw if CONCORD are on the gate or not.
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Leno
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:53:00 -
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I accidently told trey to jump his eagle into a .5, he warped around like a mad man screaming like a girl until i was able to setup a sling shot and he jumped out. The recording on ts is priceless... "Leno I hate you i hate you i hate you, ahh they are at the planet! What is taking so long!
Me: "warp to me now I think it might work!"
Trey:"Think!? This better work, oh man i'm gonna kill you, im going to kill you... Oh it's perfect, thnak god i love you! I love you! I love..."
Siddy: *music plays* Bad boys bad boys, what ya gonna do, what ya gonna do when they come for you!"
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DaMiGe
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Posted - 2006.04.26 19:35:00 -
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You can get out if your not flagged, but if your flagged you will get popped @ the gates before you can allign to get out 
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