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Treborr MintingtonJr
Quantum Reality R n D
Spaceship Samurai
191
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Posted - 2014.03.10 13:55:00 -
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Oiras Isimazu wrote:Treborr MintingtonJr wrote:I love this dude, I was hoping to use a Sin as a way to complete escalations without having to jump through gates which I always get tackled on, most of the ones I get go to waste :-/ What do you mean when you wrote , most of the ones you get go to waste? Do you mean that the Black Ops Sin that you get go to waste?
Because moving my Battleship between gates is dangerous (as I usually get tackled) I am unable to do the escalations I sometimes earn after completing an anom, so they expire. If the Sin (or other blops ships) was a worthy PvE ship then I could move a covert cyno ship to where the escalation is, usually 4 jumps away, and jump the Sin into the system without having to jump it through any gates.
I hope thats clear. x |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
116
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Posted - 2014.03.10 16:27:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:I like your post. I just wanted to add that any ship that can fit the Covert Ops Cloak can also lock onto the Covert Cyno and use the Black Ops bridge.
...create a Covert Exploration Team :
1x Covert Ops Frigate
1x Blockade Runner
2x T3 Cruiser -w- Covert Subsystem
3x Stealth Bomber
2x Force Recon Cruiser
1x Black Ops Battleship
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The Blockade Runner would carry ...
the cargohold space would be refilled with loot and salvage collected from the sites.
The T3 Cruisers ... DPS.
...
The Force Recon Cruisers would provide EWAR / Logistics / DPS as well as light the Covert Cyno.
The Black Ops Battleship would provide the Jump Bridge for the Fleet and also help with DPS.
...
1.
Yes, the main problem is tanking, so more Black Ops BS would provide more tank.
It would also increase the risk of higher loss...
I believe the 2nd best tank in that group are the T3...
2.
The main idea of my BR is for transport of goods as a Jump Freigther would be transporting goods.
Sure it is many jumps fewer than a JF.
However, when having to deliver in 0.0 or other, it can be more cost efficient than a 5b + ISK JF.
Maybe any other Covert ships than a Black Ops can only use the Covert Cyno in the same or adjacent system.
It is more likely that they have to be in the same system.
That is the same as using a bookmark, and requires gate jumping to get there.
The Force Recon:
"EWAR" Caldari + Gallente? / "Logistics" Pilgrim? / "DPS" Low
the previous description are only cached at this time + history removed.
Applicable to all 4:
A.
Recon Ships Skill Bonus: ...and 20% reduction in CPU need for cloaking devices per level.
B.
Role Bonus: 80% reduction in liquid ozone consumption for cynosural field generation and 50% reduction in cynosural field duration.
C.
Note: can fit covert ops cloaks and covert cynosural field generators
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5% Bonus to Medium Hybrid Damage Per Level
10% Bonus to ECM Target Jammer capacitor use per level
Recon Ships Skill Bonus:
30% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength per level ...
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Gallente Cruiser Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage per level
7.5% bonus to Remote Sensor Dampener effectiveness per level
Recon Ships Skill Bonus:
20% bonus to Warp Scrambler and Warp Disruptor range per level ...
Cached Pilgrim
Amarr Cruiser Skill Bonus: 7.5% bonus to Tracking Disruptor effectiveness and 10% bonus to drone hit points and damage per level.
Recon Ships Skill Bonus: 20% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer transfer amount ...
3.
Also, an additional or more important point is, the scouting.
A 3rd and if not equally important point is the ship to light the Covert Cyno.
First off, the Covert Cyno.
The value of the Force Recon is 7.5 times that of a Bomber or Covert Ops Explorer Frigate.
It makes the risk of loss of using a Bomber or CovOp Frigates better and more efficient.
The only bonus gained by the Force Recon is the cyno time being half, and 80% less fuel cost.
That doesn't cover for the value of the ship at risk.
As for the Scouting...
There is no way to scout without a rookie ship I'm afraid.
There needs to be eyes in the system to know what is going on.
Even a 20m Bomber or CovOps Frigates compared to a 150m + Force Recon can be destroyed if trapped.
These eyes that should be used to get the way to the path seeked are used by enemies to counter it.
It becomes more evident in Null sec with often less enemies or zero in local.
You can normally tell easily that if you constantly find 2 or 3 in local jumping gates that an ambush is near.
That is where the Rookie Ship will survive to tell about it while other Covert ship will be detected.
Even knowing that there are potential enemies trying to attack the Covert fleet won't make it easier to move.
The same gate jump traps remain for the Covert Cyno to be lit.
The Rookie ship cannot light a Covert Cyno.
To lit or normal cyno would be useless...
All in all it makes travel in null sec and low sec pretty much anything but hard and high risk.
Anyone with a vendetta against them will fall prey to the 40k+ other players trying to get their things.
Not only do they want a claim to it, but if they can get their things, will use it to party.
I've seen many Covert fleet which do function however.
It only comes at a high number of participant, with scouts, and eyes and more.
There are also a lot of politics involved in maintaining the balance of powers.
Those balance of powers are part of what makes the fleet remain free from attacks.
They are limited to the systems they travel to and the objective + goals they seek.
Solo play as the most efficient resu... |
Oiras Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
116
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Posted - 2014.03.10 16:32:00 -
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...continued from previous post above:
Unfortunately for those seeking this, the war is and will be too advanced, and it makes it pointless.
Their efforts would be thwarted and the self-righteous evil that prevails already made perpetual damage.
There are RL issues arbitrarily interfering against this which are better left in the Out of Pod Experience at this time.
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Treborr MintingtonJr wrote:
Because moving my Battleship between gates is dangerous (as I usually get tackled) I am unable to do the escalations I sometimes earn after completing an anom, so they expire...
Right, well, moving a covert cyno ship is easier said than done.
Anyone knowing that you carry the device can be out to get you as well...
And rightfully so, many POS attacks start with that. And that means sovereignty takeover as well as taking things.
That is why the rookie ship is so important if not priceless. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.05.15 03:22:00 -
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Still upgrading... |
Genocide Machine
Ritual Suicide
5
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:09:00 -
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i declare you best troll ever, even if unwittingly |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1936
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:16:00 -
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Noxisia Arkana wrote:I thought you said you were planning on biomassing yourself? Something something... money, real life?
Keep up the good work.
This. And I see the paranoia is creeping back into this thread, too...
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:18:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
*tagline theft detected* |
Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries
Silent Infinity
391
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:54:00 -
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Yeah.... I need to drink more... |
Treborr MintingtonJr
Quantum Reality R n D
Spaceship Samurai
212
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Posted - 2014.05.16 10:10:00 -
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This thread is a blast from the past! |
Voight KampGaff
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:22:00 -
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Is this the story thread?
-Be me.
-Be in Gallente trade hub bulloxy blues.
-Be buying training skill books.
-Buy some manufacturing books to turn those blue prints I haxored into some real deal hollyfield space bux.
-See drug manufacturing.
-Sounds real neato.
-43,000? no problemo.
-Inject skill book.
-Check wallet.
-43,586,495.00 space bucks are missing.
Welcome to EvE.
Frigid yarn chap.
It's so cold in space...but now I can make space meth.
Tight tight tight. |
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries
Silent Infinity
393
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Posted - 2014.05.16 23:02:00 -
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yi once decided to train to wfly ekvery subcap din the game. man it sure is takitng ga long time. good thign there iare foruyms to give me something to do whihle mi ot.
laswi
a you gotta trky some of thzis quafe. its amwazing. |
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
14
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Posted - 2014.05.17 02:26:00 -
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I've ran into people using rr or similar black ops for running sites in null. It's a really good combo but as always don't get caught. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.05.17 03:16:00 -
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Adriana Nolen wrote:I've ran into people using rr or similar black ops for running sites in null. It's a really good combo but as always don't get caught.
By "rr", do you mean: "remote repair" ?
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Tauranon
Weeesearch
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
986
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Posted - 2014.05.17 03:40:00 -
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Adriana Nolen wrote:I've ran into people using rr or similar black ops for running sites in null. It's a really good combo but as always don't get caught.
The mobile depot was pretty much the meteor to the PVE blops dinosaur. I saw one or two after T3s could refit in system, and then they were gone.
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Remy Nolen
Sama Guild
8
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Posted - 2014.05.17 09:54:00 -
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Lar Tadaruwa wrote:Adriana Nolen wrote:I've ran into people using rr or similar black ops for running sites in null. It's a really good combo but as always don't get caught. By "rr", do you mean: "remote repair" ?
yes |
Mr Welsh
Cause For Concern
Easily Excited
4
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Posted - 2014.05.20 08:58:00 -
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Would you like me to send you a World of Warcraft Resurrect a friend? please come back to wow and don't embarrass your self on EVE |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2014.05.20 13:41:00 -
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Mr Welsh wrote:Would you like me to send you a World of Warcraft Resurrect a friend? please come back to wow and don't embarrass your self on EVE
Not possible, they won't let me log in WoW. Too many theft attempts to be worth it for me.
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Jeann Valjean
Justified Chaos
34
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Posted - 2014.05.21 04:23:00 -
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Sometimes I want to do drugs, but come to this thread to save money instead. |
Lar Tadaruwa
State War Academy
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2014.05.21 22:48:00 -
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And, of course not, and why not, the Black Ops Ore mining free frigate at the gate, ready to jump ...
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