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ShadowStrike
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Posted - 2006.04.23 01:14:00 -
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when i do missions in my battleship, i lot cans with tractor beams as i kill ships, but sometimes, i kill ships too fast (i don`t have time to reach F6 that the ship is gone) and the next gun shoot at one of my can as its the next locked item since i have to lock them to use my tractor beams on them, well, a single shot from a single gun is enough to kill a can, even if the can is really close, like in looting range
it happened to me a few times, not dramatic, but still, somewhat frustrating to lose loots this way
would it be possible to increase the hitpoints of these cans so they can at least withstand a few shots?
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.23 02:05:00 -
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Maybe your should learn not to be so absurdly clumsy.
If you ever do missions with a non corp friend or shoot the wrong target in a war you will die. Slow down and do something properly instead of asking for an easy button to make up for your inadequacies?
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ShadowStrike
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Posted - 2006.04.23 02:12:00 -
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why would i shoot a friend or wrong target if i don't lock it in the 1st place?
still, it's wrong that a can is destroyed with a single shot at point blank range from a long range weapon that don't have much tracking
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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.04.23 02:12:00 -
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happened to me once or twice but i never killed a can because of it, and i wouldnt expect more hitpoints when the cause if user error. maybe you should use weaker ammo 
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ShadowStrike
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Posted - 2006.04.23 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui happened to me once or twice but i never killed a can because of it, and i wouldnt expect more hitpoints when the cause if user error. maybe you should use weaker ammo 
i use titanium sabot, this isn't the most damaging ammo out there 
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Lefia
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Posted - 2006.04.23 03:13:00 -
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No, can HPs are fine where they are. Having such low Hps makes them easy to destroy when cleaning up crappy loot cans. If you want to stop killing cans, learn how many guns you need to destroy stuff. You don't have to alpha strike every frig you come across.
Originally by: hired goon I agree with every point and counter point that has been brought up in this and every other argument ever had.
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Dotar Sojat
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Posted - 2006.04.23 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris Maybe your should learn not to be so absurdly clumsy.
If you ever do missions with a non corp friend or shoot the wrong target in a war you will die. Slow down and do something properly instead of asking for an easy button to make up for your inadequacies?
Deja Thoris "The Incomparable" My God once again she took the words right out of my mouth, couldn't have said it better...
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.23 10:45:00 -
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mmmm level 2 smartbombs blow 8 rats at once (best bet is fit 3 tractor beams)
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Marcsens Lil'Helper
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Posted - 2006.04.23 10:49:00 -
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You know, i'm really sorry, but you actually have to pay attention and concentrate on what you're doing when playing Eve
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Calvin Caltrain
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Posted - 2006.04.23 11:27:00 -
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I would suggest that you wait until you have finished killing the rats and then loot the cans, or does it take you so long to kill them in the first place that you are running out of time :))
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2006.04.23 12:40:00 -
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Maybe if the interface was better this wouldnt be an issue, but it is an issue and I have done it a few times as well. If I could tell the interface to always make cans targets 4/5 I would, or if it would auto-select hostiles over cans that would be nice.
Overcoming the interface's shortcomings shouldn't be considered one and the same with skill.
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2006.04.23 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris Maybe your should learn not to be so absurdly clumsy.
If you ever do missions with a non corp friend or shoot the wrong target in a war you will die. Slow down and do something properly instead of asking for an easy button to make up for your inadequacies?
QFT
Shinnen ------------------
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Raven Fury
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Posted - 2006.04.23 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris Maybe your should learn not to be so absurdly clumsy.
If you ever do missions with a non corp friend or shoot the wrong target in a war you will die. Slow down and do something properly instead of asking for an easy button to make up for your inadequacies?
Maybe you should learn to shut your mouth and stop insulting people for nothing, i'm sure you don't have his problems as your precious missiles don't kill canisters in 1 shot
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Fury
Originally by: Deja Thoris Maybe your should learn not to be so absurdly clumsy.
If you ever do missions with a non corp friend or shoot the wrong target in a war you will die. Slow down and do something properly instead of asking for an easy button to make up for your inadequacies?
Maybe you should learn to shut your mouth and stop insulting people for nothing, i'm sure you don't have his problems as your precious missiles don't kill canisters in 1 shot
Please point out where I insulted him? My points are perfectly valid. Please stop asking for the game to be dumbed down.
Also, in case you didnt notice I am Amarrian. I use lasers. Since you are a two year old player and you cant discern this simple fact I can see why you would side with him
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Raven Fury
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Deja Thoris Maybe your should learn not to be so absurdly clumsy.
If you ever do missions with a non corp friend or shoot the wrong target in a war you will die. Slow down and do something properly instead of asking for an easy button to make up for your inadequacies?
Please point out where I insulted him?
Done
Originally by: Deja Thoris
My points are perfectly valid. Please stop asking for the game to be dumbed down.
Maybe so, but what's so wrong with increasing canisters hp a little?
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Also, in case you didnt notice I am Amarrian. I use lasers. Since you are a two year old player and you cant discern this simple fact I can see why you would side with him
Since when do we have to use our racial weapons? I am Minmatarian and i don't use projectiles
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:28:00 -
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A fact that does not present someone in the best light is not automatically an insult.
Nice one making assumptions. I prefer facts but dont let them get in the way of a good rant huh?
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Xori Ruscuv
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris Also, in case you didnt notice I am Amarrian. I use lasers.
Erm...
You being Amarrian doesn't mean that yo uare using Amarr ships or lasers for that matter...?
My toon is Gallente, but I don't just use hybrids...
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2006.04.23 23:22:00 -
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Really, looting with a battleship, tractor beam or not, is just masochistic. MUCH easier to do it in a Nanosigil with dual tractors after the NPCs have all been killed.
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Calleb
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Posted - 2006.04.24 07:19:00 -
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I recently lost a ship to a rediculous cans shooting gaff and yes I am an idiot. But what really got me was the fact that if i had targetted and fired upon part of the complex structure or the other gang members I would have had a warning telling me not to do it and there would have been no bother.
I target and hit my gang members can , (ok it was a stoopid thing to do but it can be done by accident with the list of targets in overview flitting up and down the list), and with no warning I get instant death from above. I tried to petition the fact that I should have had a warning, but predictably this was to no avail. I guess Idiots like me just have to swallow the loss when it happens and move on but it does not make me feel any happier about it .
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Akorin
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Posted - 2006.04.24 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Slow down and do something properly instead of asking for an easy button to make up for your inadequacies?
A fact that does not present someone in the best light is not automatically an insult.
Nice one making assumptions. I prefer facts but dont let them get in the way of a good rant huh?
You personally believing something does not automatically make it a fact. Even if your name is Deja Thoris 
That said, to the OP: Get over losing the odd can if you can't be bothered to check your fire 
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Slaadi
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Posted - 2006.04.24 20:12:00 -
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Play a logistics for awhile, good training for not shooting things you shouldn't be shooting. Also advanced drone wrangling esperience if you mix logistics & scout as scout like to go shoot at what the shield drones are healing when their targets die.
However the number of shield drones lost to people who blindly fire at anything they autotargetted can get annoying.
Many a teamspeak moment of: Me: "Dude, STOP SHOOTING MY DRONES" Them: "Huh? Oh crap, sorry" Drone: AIEEEE *pop*
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