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Strikeclone	Posted - 2006.04.29 00:09:00 - [91] Edited by: Strikeclone on 29/04/2006 00:09:47 Davion Vrynn, A wise council, indeed my questions have been answered, for now. My request regarding Halunoto Vankaalen conduct seems not to have been addressed though as the following quote; Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen Indeed Davion, this is no place for petty feuds. Seems to be designed to provoke a confrontation. I find this regretable as I simply asked a question to which I received several conflicting replies which I then attempted and succeeded in clarifying. Halunoto Vankaalen, I recommend that you leave you old and irrelevent grudges in teh anceit past where they belong. New thread, new topic, new replies, are you comprehending the theme of my reply to you yet? Squadron Leader Strikeclone XV Squadron HQ Hoist Battle Ensigns
Maze La'Zie	Posted - 2006.04.29 00:23:00 - [92] Maze La'Zie shakes his head as he reads the press release and the debate that follows... It is happening again. I realise that I will offend you, Squadron Leader Strikeclone, but I must point out that you still seem to take offense where none is intended and seek to prolong arguments where all other parties are content to reach a conclusion. You also seem incapable of accepting clear and logical answers as such, where they disagree with your own views. The spokesmen from the Directive have answered all your pertinent questions. I suggest that you retire from this discussion before they start ignoring you. ________________________ Chief Scientific Officer Technology La'Zie
Xavier Fate	Posted - 2006.04.29 00:45:00 - [93] Congratulations! I wish your new conglomorate all of ht eusccess in the stars.
Halunoto Vankaalen	Posted - 2006.04.29 01:08:00 - [94] Edited by: Halunoto Vankaalen on 29/04/2006 01:09:01 Originally by: Strikeclone Seems to be designed to provoke a confrontation. Only because you make it so. I have asked that petty feuds be left out of this thread for now, you ignore that and continue trolling. CSO La'Zie, a former Reserve Officer has said all that needs to be said on the matter. If you have nothing more constructive to add to this diplomatic channel, then for the second time I will ask you not to post. If still you feel the need to reply, send it to my inbox. And Xavier, many thanks. I watch your work in Placid with interest, it is good to see more work alongside Placid Reborn's to aid that region, and the Intaki people especially even after all the media attention from Reschard V died away. ----- Disembarkation Room
Davion Vrynn	Posted - 2006.04.29 01:20:00 - [95] Originally by: Strikeclone Edited by: Strikeclone on 29/04/2006 00:09:47 Davion Vrynn, A wise council, indeed my questions have been answered, for now. My request regarding Halunoto Vankaalen conduct seems not to have been addressed though as the following quote; Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen Indeed Davion, this is no place for petty feuds. Seems to be designed to provoke a confrontation. I find this regretable as I simply asked a question to which I received several conflicting replies which I then attempted and succeeded in clarifying. Halunoto Vankaalen, I recommend that you leave you old and irrelevent grudges in teh anceit past where they belong. New thread, new topic, new replies, are you comprehending the theme of my reply to you yet? This is not what I meant by dropping the issue. Please let things lie as they are and let us move on to other things. Davion Vrynn Operations Director
Strikeclone	Posted - 2006.04.29 01:34:00 - [96] Originally by: Maze La'Zie It is happening again. I realise that I will offend you, Squadron Leader Strikeclone, but I must point out that you still seem to take offense where none is intended and seek to prolong arguments where all other parties are content to reach a conclusion. Not at all, no offence is taken I just object to deliberate attempts to derail my diplomatic enquiry, the answers initially given were in my opinion slightly conflicting. Several further posts were required to clear the matter up, thanks to Nikolai Nuvolari and Davion Vrynn for their clear and definative answer to my question. If Halunoto Vankaalen can not keep his replies civil and relelvent to the topic at hand prehaps he should not post at all. Although I would rather move on from old arguments and just get along with current affairs. Originally by: Maze La'Zie You also seem incapable of accepting clear and logical answers as such, where they disagree with your own views. Prehaps your definition of "clear and logical" is different to mine. If asked what is the single chosen favourite colour of a group of people you recieve several replies all of them different. This to me is not "clear and logical", so further discussion must be had to have the group decide on a single colour. With regard to my initial question of political factional affiliation, Nikolai Nuvolari and Davion Vrynn have cleared this matter up. So no further discussion on that point is required. Originally by: Maze La'Zie The spokesmen from the Directive have answered all your pertinent questions. Point of fact that at the time of posting there was no single spokes person for the Directorate, which contributed to the confusion. Again I have been informed that efforts are underway to provide a single voice for the Directorate. Thus avoiding further misunderstandings Originally by: Maze La'Zie I suggest that you retire from this discussion before they start ignoring you. As you are not part of the Directorate as far as I can tell, I would not attmept to dicate their reponses to my diplomatic communications. I put it to you that any Caldari alliance worth the name will make efforts to control its wayward members posts on diplomatic thread before attempting to cause diplomatic incidents over confusion caused by their lack of a single voice. Or in other words the confusion was caused by conflicting replies to my question and I doubt they would "ignore" my reasonable and successful efforts to resolve the matter respectfully. Furthermore I am entitled too not have ancient and irrelevent grievances dug up and thrown in my face as a cheap attempt to belittle my diplomatic communications. Infact your little comunique could fall into this category especially as it comes over seven hours after the matter has been resolved by the Directorate. ((evemails to be sent when I get home from work)) Squadron Leader Strikeclone XV Squadron HQ Hoist Battle Ensigns
Strikeclone	Posted - 2006.04.29 01:38:00 - [97] Davion Vrynnm, My appologies I shall repect your wishes as long as your people do the same. Squadron Leader Strikeclone XV Squadron HQ Hoist Battle Ensigns
Halunoto Vankaalen	Posted - 2006.04.29 03:31:00 - [98] Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen If you have nothing more constructive to add to this diplomatic channel, then for the second time I will ask you not to post. If still you feel the need to reply, send it to my inbox. ----- Disembarkation Room
Strikeclone	Posted - 2006.04.29 04:09:00 - [99] Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen If you have nothing more constructive to add to this diplomatic channel, then for the second time I will ask you not to post. If still you feel the need to reply, send it to my inbox. Originally by: Strikeclone Davion Vrynnm, My appologies I shall repect your wishes as long as your people do the same. Self quotes envogue I guess..... Squadron Leader Strikeclone XV Squadron HQ Hoist Battle Ensigns
Halunoto Vankaalen	Posted - 2006.04.29 06:07:00 - [100] Edited by: Halunoto Vankaalen on 29/04/2006 06:08:40 Originally by: Strikeclone Davion Vrynnm, My appologies I shall repect your wishes as long as your people do the same. Maze La'Zie, apart from being a good friend isn't one of "our people", you'll note Technology La'Zie isn't connected to the Directive in any official way. Again, Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen If you have nothing more constructive to add to this diplomatic channel, then for the second time I will ask you not to post. If still you feel the need to reply, send it to my inbox. Show some maturity. ----- Disembarkation Room
Strikeclone	Posted - 2006.04.29 06:30:00 - [101] Edited by: Strikeclone on 29/04/2006 06:33:25 Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen Edited by: Halunoto Vankaalen on 29/04/2006 06:08:40 Originally by: Strikeclone Davion Vrynnm, My appologies I shall repect your wishes as long as your people do the same. Maze La'Zie, apart from being a good friend isn't one of "our people", you'll note Technology La'Zie isn't connected to the Directive in any official way. The statement you have quoted was directed at Davion Vrynnm, nothing to do with Maze La'Zie. Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen Show some maturity. I might say the same to you, what is your point in keep going on and on against the wishes of even your own alliance mates? Its yet another simple concept you fail to comprehend, I posted a serious question which was eventually answered after a bit of confusion caused by some conflicting posts from members of the Directorate. End of story Or so you would think, your personal grudges against me are lamentable but its obvious that you will never out grow them and I can't help that. Its funny that you go on and on about nothing and expect me not to respond you are very good at stiring up the S^t prehaps you are wasted in your current assignment and should apply to Star Fraction where your galnet based talent for making an argument out of thin air would be not only be honed to a razor edge but appreciated by your peers. Now as the diplomatic matter I originally posted about is over, understand this, its only your continued jibes that keep me here. Your childishness would be amusing if not for the fact that you are a grown man, a Caldari citizen, and member of possibly the most politically significant Caldari alliance formation in recent times. Prehaps you need to show maturity and get over ancient and irrelevent grudges. Davion Vrynn, again I offer my appologies but your alliance mates and even those who are absolutly nothing to do with any of it keep on going on long after they should have been silent, and I won't suffer attacks in silence. Its funny that they think they can insult me and have no come backs. Squadron Leader Strikeclone* XV Squadron HQ Hoist Battle Ensigns
Halunoto Vankaalen	Posted - 2006.04.29 07:03:00 - [102] PM sent. ----- Disembarkation Room
Gaius Kador	Posted - 2006.04.29 08:33:00 - [103] Congratulations. ----------------------------------------------
Strikeclone	Posted - 2006.04.29 08:33:00 - [104] Following private talks I shall say no more than has already been said. Furthermore I shall eagerly await the designated KD representative so that future diplomatic communications can be directed to them. Squadron Leader Strikeclone XV Squadron HQ Hoist Battle Ensigns
Danno	Posted - 2006.04.29 10:01:00 - [105] Unless i have misunderstood what i have read, it seems that upon congratulating you Strikeclone asked for clarification on a couple of items. As soon as it seemed to be percieved as any conflict to the KD agenda the loudmouths started the assualt upon him. i personally can follow his arguments and generally agree with the pionts he has raised. from that and added to the intercepted log in the rogues thread, i think it can be reasonable to conclude the following. the formulation of this conglomerate was rushed through without being fully prepared - for the previously mentioned reasons. there is and will be a clash of interests and leadership, which i believe will escalate in the future. these characters will always be in some sort of trouble, one way or another because of the attitudes and general disrespect to others. I just hope and pray that Ms svetlana scarlet is made official spokesperson of the Kimotoro Directive.
Danno	Posted - 2006.04.29 10:04:00 - [106] Originally by: Danno I just hope and pray that Ms svetlana scarlet is made official spokesperson of the Kimotoro Directive. Based soley on the Cain being the majority shareholder and Ms scarlet already being their official spokesperson.
Shemar	Posted - 2006.04.29 10:57:00 - [107] Originally by: Danno Originally by: Danno I just hope and pray that Ms svetlana scarlet is made official spokesperson of the Kimotoro Directive. Based soley on the Cain being the majority shareholder and Ms scarlet already being their official spokesperson. And I thought you just wanted more chances to see her ________________ Enhanced eye sight does not make up for the lack of vision
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.04.29 14:53:00 - [108] Originally by: Danno Cain being the majority shareholder That's actually incorrect. KD is not a corporation, and hence, CAIN does not hold shares. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.04.29 15:07:00 - [109] Originally by: Danno from that and added to the intercepted log in the rogues thread, i think it can be reasonable to conclude the following. the formulation of this conglomerate was rushed through without being fully prepared - for the previously mentioned reasons. I recently found my pod's transmission logs from the Caldari Prime memorial service months ago, the alliance's formation was being dicussed in it. The only thing 'rushed' was us joining when others said they didn't mind fighting the Rogues. CAIN had planned to wait until after the war ended. KD didn't mind, so we joined before the war ended. the only thing I would have preferred is to perhaps see which other corporations would have wanted to join in the Alliance's creation, but having people join now or later, akes little difference, as the alliance would still have the same alligance and goals. Some log affected by members of the Omni Oppression Corporation doesn't change the fact that there's a better chance of the Stormriders joining the Marr Navy than the Rogues having caused CAIN to run to an alliance for protection. Besides, if we wanted or needed protection, don't you think we'd have chosen a larger, more battle hardened one, and not one we've been speaking of the reformation of since before the second, maybe ever the first, fight with your Rogues group? Besides, what's an alliance without some differences in opinion? Nothing prevents the Directive from doing its job. Members have different opinions, but they have chosen their corporation, and alliance, and we are a united group. As for disrespect towards others... well I can't imagine the Rogues will get much respect from KD, nor will Strikeclone from many members of the groups which make up the Directive, and he knows why. Any view of a clash of leadership is greatly exaggerated, and you can look at the CEP to see how leaders of corporations come together to run as a more effective larger body. Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Danno	Posted - 2006.04.29 17:33:00 - [110] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Originally by: Danno Cain being the majority shareholder That's actually incorrect. KD is not a corporation, and hence, CAIN does not hold shares. so... she get the job then , or what?
Davion Vrynn	Posted - 2006.04.29 18:55:00 - [111] Edited by: Davion Vrynn on 29/04/2006 18:57:25 Edited by: Davion Vrynn on 29/04/2006 18:55:07 Originally by: Danno so... she get the job then , or what? The Directive has already stated that voting on these positions is not yet complete. We will determine amongst ourselves whom we feel is best qualified for the available positions. Relevant information regarding alliance positions will be released if and when the board deems it suitable for public consumption. Davion Vrynn, Operations Director
Xhalen Toth	Posted - 2006.04.29 19:03:00 - [112] Congratulations on the formation of the new alliance, I am sure you all will be quite successful. XT
Sarchez	Posted - 2006.04.29 20:56:00 - [113] Just out of curiosity then... What exactly have you been "planning for months" ? We've already seen evidence that you have notyour leadership structure, your immidiate or long term goals, your appointment of key roles, or how you were going to finance it in the first way. Now you also show that you haven't agreed upon your political stances. It's common in the pilot community, that joining an alliance while engaged in war, is the same as accepting defeat. Oh, and I agree with Danno. Ms. Scarlet also gets my vote for official spokesperson. Sarch.
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.04.29 21:53:00 - [114] Originally by: Sarchez We've already seen evidence that you have notyour leadership structure We already have our leadership structure, just not which individuals fill the structure. Originally by: Sarchez your immidiate or long term goals No, we are certainly not going to publicize our plans in a place that people like you have access to. Originally by: Sarchez Now you also show that you haven't agreed upon your political stances. No, Strikeclone initially misunderstood our political stance. We clarified, and everybody understood. Unless you still don't. Originally by: Sarchez It's common in the pilot community, that joining an alliance while engaged in war, is the same as accepting defeat. It's common in the pilot community that retracting a war that you started is the same as accepting defeat. Originally by: Sarchez Ms. Scarlet also gets my vote for official spokesperson. Sarchez gets my vote for First .R. Pilot to Kill Himself so as to Relieve Galnet from Having to Listen to Him. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Steiner	Posted - 2006.04.29 22:05:00 - [115] Edited by: Steiner on 29/04/2006 22:07:03 Always intresting to see StrikeClone bantering on the IGS, somehow I think he just wants to be disliked and you are giving him much pleasure Halunoto Vankaalen. One question to the Directive, what are the qualifications that corporation needs to fulfill to be able to assist/join/apply to the directive? ---
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.04.29 22:10:00 - [116] Originally by: Steiner One question to the Directive, what are the qualifications that corporation needs to fulfill to be able to assist/join/apply to the directive? All applications to join the alliance are reviewed and judged on a one-by-one basis by the Board. The single most important factor is a corporation's clarity of vision. The Directive is about loyalty to the State. A corporation that desires to serve will always be welcome among us. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Steiner	Posted - 2006.04.29 22:19:00 - [117] Good thing, thank you for a quick answer. ---
Strikeclone	Posted - 2006.04.30 07:53:00 - [118] Edited by: Strikeclone on 30/04/2006 07:53:20 Originally by: Steiner Always intresting to see StrikeClone bantering on the IGS, somehow I think he just wants to be disliked and you are giving him much pleasure Halunoto Vankaalen. Not at all Steiner, I love to be loved. I asked a question and the answers I received were conflicting, eventually the matter was resolved then old grudges were brought to play. That is all over now as the matter was resolved privately and amicably by mutual consent. I originally wished the KD all the best and I still do. Squadron Leader Strikeclone XV Squadron HQ Hoist Battle Ensigns
So'Kar	Posted - 2006.04.30 19:49:00 - [119] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Originally by: Sarchez Ms. Scarlet also gets my vote for official spokesperson. Sarchez gets my vote for First .R. Pilot to Kill Himself so as to Relieve Galnet from Having to Listen to Him. Grow some balls and do it yourself. And since we are voting for things here. My vote goes for Caldari Research and Development that they try find drug that will grow balls for you guys. It's beyond my understanding how such large number of Caldari have been able to reproduce without balls for such large numbers to form alliance in the first place.
Paxtan Staark	Posted - 2006.04.30 19:56:00 - [120] Such hallow echo from a pilot that hides in Stain all day. I think I have to find a corner to cry in.. grins Or maybe I'll just keep ignoring you guys, not like you can do much else then bark as the dogs you are. ------------------- Paxtan Staark Still without anything worth showing here

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