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Olixia Castitatis
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Posted - 2006.04.23 15:07:00 -
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hi, I was wondering if anyone could give me info on how mercenary corps go about charging for their services. Is it on a weekly basis? per kill? a combination of both, maybe? Also, I'd like an idea of the kind of rates they generally charge.
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vile56
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Posted - 2006.04.23 15:23:00 -
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you, will pay for the dec. be it 2 mil or 50 mil, depending on size of the corp it can range from 100-1bil a week. obviously a corp with more members and or in a alliance will be at the 1 bil(or around there). then u can negotiate per ship kill and per pod. for kills its usualy 5-20 mil for each.
this is just a general idea, some charge less some charge more. if u find a newer merc corp, they will prolly charge less since they want contracts, and they want there name out there, while mc can prolly charge more since they are one of the most well known.
hope this helped
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Saifa
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Posted - 2006.04.23 15:29:00 -
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per-kill contracts in general are not that great, seeing as your target can sit docked and you earn no money.
I would say its based on size, whether its an alliance or corp, also depends on the quality of the merc corp, high quality corp will cost allot more than a rubbish one, but you get what you pay for, and its more likely the high quality corp will do a better job.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.04.23 16:53:00 -
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Some merc corps will do it for free. All in the name of killmail and chaos though.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2006.04.23 18:03:00 -
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For conventional wars and covert contracts, we charge a flat rate. That is, one lump payment which covers us for the duration of the war/infiltration. When hiring us to declare upon an alliance, the client also handles the weekly war fee. On average we ask for 3 billion to do a conventional war. Covert contracts are... considerably more expensive.
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Izo Azlion
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Posted - 2006.04.23 18:22:00 -
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After getting in touch with the OP, I found out shes looking to start her own corp, not hire one.
Izo Azlion,
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Olixia Castitatis
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Posted - 2006.04.23 19:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Izo Azlion
After getting in touch with the OP, I found out shes looking to start her own corp, not hire one.
Aye. This thread has been most helpfull. Before reading it, I was considering offering services at about 1/5 of the price people are calling the "minimum" charged.
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vile56
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Posted - 2006.04.23 19:52:00 -
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and whats wrong with chargein a 1/5th u would get tons of contracts, which = more money over time
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:07:00 -
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Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 23/04/2006 20:08:49
Well, charging low at the beginning is the only real way for a mercenary corporation to get started. I mean, if you're asking for billions and nobody has heard of you, you're not getting those billions. It's best to either charge low, or possibly even do some pro-bono work for defenceless carebears to get your name listed in the merc thread. The first contract my corp took upon itself brought us only 200m ISK total, for about two weeks of fighting. Nowadays, we pretty much write our own cheques.
Olixia, if you want your name to be known, do the above, and ask your client to post something they liked about your merc corp on the forums - that is, if they're satisfied with your performance. Positive feedback from past clients goes a very very long way toward establishing yourself as a competent merc joint.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.04.23 20:12:00 -
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I agree. Charge a lower fee, build a rep and refferals. Note too that there are a lot of people who'd consider hiring Mercs yet are not billionares so there is a niche market to be filled.
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H Zub
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Posted - 2006.04.24 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
If client satisfaction is not achieved, the fee is refunded in full along with a small compensation payment from us for as an apology for tying up the client's money. Fortunately this has only happened once, when we simply couldn't find anyone to kill.
The funny thing is I remember you telling me that one corp was my good old Captain Morgan Society. And we saw you guys docking then logging of the few times "WE FOUND YOU". And you Istvaan simply never showed up. You are good at forum fighting with your propaganda for sure, in space still to be seen.
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Lt Cmdr
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Posted - 2006.04.24 01:32:00 -
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Istvaan Shogaatsu, how much is ur average contract?
and if you dnt need to declare war, as if it's in 0.0, will this make a difference ?
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2006.04.24 02:14:00 -
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Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 24/04/2006 02:21:10
Originally by: H Zub
The funny thing is I remember you telling me that one corp was my good old Captain Morgan Society. And we saw you guys docking then logging of the few times "WE FOUND YOU". And you Istvaan simply never showed up. You are good at forum fighting with your propaganda for sure, in space still to be seen.
Wow, I guess we're a terrible merc corp then. Don't hire the Guiding Hand, because we fled in terror from Captain Morgan Society. Funny, how of all the corps we've fought, many of whom were better than you by magnitudes, it was yours that so thoroughly humiliated us. Isn't it?
(p.s. this was sarcasm, throughout that whole war we got at best one or two t2 frig kills against you, and you did the same, chiefly because you were so scarce - since there were so few kills, we refunded the money and went on with our lives. You should try it sometime, unless of course surviving us is your only claim to fame, in which case you're welcome to continue dredging up our non-existent war over and over again)
Originally by: Lt Cmdr
Istvaan Shogaatsu, how much is ur average contract?
and if you dnt need to declare war, as if it's in 0.0, will this make a difference ?
3 billion for a vanilla war, anywhere from 15 billion upwards for UQS style jobs. The costs don't change if it's in 0.0.
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H Zub
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Posted - 2006.04.24 02:35:00 -
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Well I wasn't sarcastic. I stand by my word.
The Hunter
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2006.04.24 02:59:00 -
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Good boy. Keep standing.
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Mr Breakfast
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Posted - 2006.04.24 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Good boy. Keep standing.
Owned hard. Keep up the comedy.
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.04.24 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Wow, I guess we're a terrible merc corp then. Don't hire the Guiding Hand, because we fled in terror from Captain Morgan Society. Funny, how of all the corps we've fought, many of whom were better than you by magnitudes, it was yours that so thoroughly humiliated us. Isn't it?
Captain Morgan Society is no match for the GHSC on the forums. That's why they merged with Cult of Cthulhu to fight the battles in space, where they excelled at it.
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E BITc
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Posted - 2006.04.24 09:21:00 -
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Its all about the job.
If its a small corp, make a deal were you pay per kill,
as the target corp might go inactive.
Large things like alliances, proberly starts from 100m isk.
some mercs are roleplayers, those are the cheapest to hire, while corps like Conin, E-R and pcp corps in that size cost alot, but the effekt whit a corp like conin or E-R is huge. so if you wanner go for a medium alliance, like snu or AOA, use a 100man pvp corp, it will cost 1-2bil per week, but you might even disband the target alliance whit effekt from the pvp corp.
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El Yatta
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Posted - 2006.04.24 09:55:00 -
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Edited by: El Yatta on 24/04/2006 09:56:23
A lot of mercenary corps, unlike Istvaan's Guiding Hand, do not charge a flat one-time fee, but a weekly retainer, appropriate to the size of the target. This reflect the different styles: in my outfit, for example, we'd rather not be tied down into a potentially rubbish war for weeks and weeks, in order to live up to the initial payment, as its equally likely for the target to be absolutely no fun, as it is to be a total blast: you cannot tell until you've fought someone. We'd much prefer to do our own brand of destruction for 1-4 weeks, in weekly installments, which means we get paid regularly, can end a job when my members fancy something new, but still live up to all our obligations and make our clients extremely happy with the results.
I'd say both ways certainly have their merits, and there's room in the market for lots of both types of corp. Istvaan's also not wrong in how to get your first contracts if you want to start a new merc corp - OP take heed, freeby and cheap jobs for any old carebears-in-distress will soon build you up to decent-quality jobs for decent wages!
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.24 16:07:00 -
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I can be hired to attack people on the forum. I'll happily accept contracts for any of the following: whinging, flaming, moaning, smacking and trolling.
unfortunately, i'm rubbish at eve, so my services do not extend to the actual game.
no skills, just luck.
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Olixia Castitatis
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Posted - 2006.04.26 10:00:00 -
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Edited by: Olixia Castitatis on 26/04/2006 10:00:12
Thank you all for your advice. It has been most useful, and has given me many ideas for my corp-to-be.
On a side note, Istvaan Shogaatsu talked to me! *swoon*. I think this Avatar must be getting to me.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.26 10:30:00 -
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The cost of a mercenary service is exponentially related to their price.
Decent, low-power mercenaries are a dime a dozen.
Top-end mercenaries with truly massive firepower are worth their weight in platinum.
MC, as an example, is taking on entire alliances nowadays with kill ratios many times better than Band of Brothers--killing a hundred battleships to one loss. Few other corporations can do that, and thus the MC costs an arm, a leg, and your firstborn child.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.26 11:12:00 -
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wasn't it something like 400 isk an hour for a scorpion fleet?
no skills, just luck.
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2006.04.26 12:49:00 -
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try 400k :|
I'd say most merc corps wing it, experiment with prices until they find something that sounds fair and is a good deal for the merc corp in question.
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Tharbad
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Tharbad on 26/04/2006 16:01:48
Originally by: Usul Faust
Edited by: Usul Faust on 26/04/2006 13:15:30
wasn't it something like 400 isk an hour for a scorpion fleet?
edit. million. i ment 400 million.
Don't think you'll get Dark Shikari in a scorpion fleet for 400m ISK an hour, he only has 20 minutes a day to play the game after he's done forums anyway.
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:30:00 -
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Most merc corps charge 100m+ per week and then war dec fees on top
and welcome back H Zub 
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tharbad
Originally by: Usul Faust
wasn't it something like 400 isk an hour for a scorpion fleet?
edit. million. i ment 400 million.
Don't think you'll get Dark Shikari in a scorpion fleet for 400m ISK an hour, he only has 20 minutes a day to play the game after he's done forums anyway.
A bit more than that 
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El Yatta
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Posted - 2006.04.27 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: El Yatta on 27/04/2006 01:23:32
Originally by: Usul Faust
Edited by: Usul Faust on 26/04/2006 13:15:30
wasn't it something like 400 isk an hour for a scorpion fleet?
edit. million. i ment 400 million.
I heard it was 400m ISK a second, to hire Dark Shikari and Istvaan. And the OP.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.27 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: El Yatta
Originally by: Usul Faust
wasn't it something like 400 isk an hour for a scorpion fleet?
edit. million. i ment 400 million.
I heard it was 400m ISK a second, to hire Dark Shikari and Istvaan. And the OP.
It took me 7 seconds to write this post. 2.8b please.
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