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DarkAegix Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 293	Posted - 2011.11.12 07:59:00 - [1] - Quote Do you reckon it's fine? It's done all the time with blasters, but why not with anything else? I've recently cooked up the following fit: [Harbinger, Solo] Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M [Empty High slot] Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I Valkyrie II x5 Obviously, the fit needs some changes. I may replace some Heavy Pulses with more Focused Medium Pulses in order to fit that high slot, and probably replace the sebo. Comparing the guns - Focused Medium Pulse Laser: 6.75+3.75km range, 0.112 tracking Heavy Pulse Laser: 7.5+5km, 0.102 tracking All out Heavy Pulses would force me to an 800mm plate, and make the Damage Control meta. All out Focused Medium Pulses would leave me with 20% powergrid to spare, and less dps. So, is mixing fine if all guns operate at the same range and receive damage bonuses?
Aamrr HnL Enterprise 143	Posted - 2011.11.12 08:07:00 - [2] - Quote It's not ideal, but it's not criminal either. If you find the benefits outweigh the small variation in range and tracking, go for it. I believe the Harbinger, in particular, benefits from this. You've chosen a very typical example.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2011.11.12 09:08:00 - [3] - Quote This is particularly common with blaster frigs and cruisers. It's not uncommon to see a nearly full rack of neutrons/ions, with an ion/electron tagged on the end for fitting purposes.
ACE McFACE Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 71	Posted - 2011.11.12 09:15:00 - [4] - Quote Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote: This is particularly common with blaster frigs and cruisers. It's not uncommon to see a nearly full rack of neutrons/ions, with an ion/electron tagged on the end for fitting purposes. Until winter! ZE GOGGLES, ZEY DO NOTHING! (Not wearing them so don't waste your time reading this sig)
Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 88	Posted - 2011.11.12 22:07:00 - [5] - Quote DarkAegix wrote: So, is mixing fine if all guns operate at the same range and receive damage bonuses? Yeah. Unless you have something in mind to fill the spare fitting, might as well get as much DPS out of your ship as possible.
JackStraw56 Bayesian Motion Knights of Tomorrow 22	Posted - 2011.11.12 22:28:00 - [6] - Quote Yes this kind of gun mixing is fine. You will still hear "Don't mix guns noob", but it's only noobs that will be saying that.
Goose99 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 155	Posted - 2011.11.12 22:38:00 - [7] - Quote JackStraw56 wrote: Yes this kind of gun mixing is fine. You will still hear "Don't mix guns noob", but it's only noobs that will be saying that. That's toward long range guns in pve. The range difference among short range guns, especially blasters, are much smaller, thus it's not as big an issue.
Any Guy Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2011.11.12 23:08:00 - [8] - Quote The other advantage lasers have in this situation is that with their wide range of crystals you can use different crystals to get the same optimals for your guns.
Jenn Makanen Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 56	Posted - 2011.11.13 00:34:00 - [9] - Quote Like all rules of this type, it's meant to be broken. If, and only if, you understand exactly why you're doing it.
laffbot Men in Black. 2	Posted - 2011.11.13 00:37:00 - [10] - Quote No you want a nuet in the high slot drop the sebo for a cap booster and fit focused II
Akuma Tsukai Viziam Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2011.11.13 03:44:00 - [11] - Quote thread hijack. [Armageddon, Tach geddon] Large Armor Repairer II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Power Diagnostic System II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency S Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency S Small Remote Armor Repair System II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Ogre II x5 Comments? P.S. And no, im not flying that... yet :)
Goose99 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 155	Posted - 2011.11.13 03:46:00 - [12] - Quote Akuma Tsukai wrote: thread hijack. [Armageddon, Tach geddon] Large Armor Repairer II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Power Diagnostic System II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Multifrequency L Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency S Medium Beam Laser II, Multifrequency S Small Remote Armor Repair System II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Ogre II x5 Comments? P.S. And no, im not flying that... yet :) Fit megapulse.
Cunane Jeran 52	Posted - 2011.11.13 05:05:00 - [13] - Quote I'm of the firm belief the only time mixing guns is with blasters, (3 Ions 5 electrons on a dual rep hype for example) to get the most damage, as your range is all kinds of terrible no matter what the size is. Generally mixing longer range guns in with shorter is balancing the different optimal and falloffs of the guns, if your not careful you could be loosing a lot of potential out of the shorter range smaller guns Though in your case this problem is easily mitigated with lasers 1 second reload time to keep both in optimal at all times.
Emily Poast The Whipping Post 14	Posted - 2011.11.13 09:58:00 - [14] - Quote Yoeh, its ok if you aee mixing different sizes of the same class, as long as they are in the same general range class. Dont do blasters and rails on the sme ship though. On of the most famous pvp video series (by Kil2) has a perfect example. One of the ships he flew alot was a Mega fit kinda like this: 5xElectron 2xIon Large Neut Propmod, web, scra, cap booster LAR x1, 2x 1600 RTP, EANM, Mag Sta, DCU. I dont have eft here, but i am pretty sure that is close. It was a very successful ship.

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