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Bizazedo
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Posted - 2006.04.25 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Then they get suicide ganked by the same asshats who say anyone older than 3 months should not be allowed in a noob corp...
Yes, because that's such a huge problem. Right. I see the same guys going suicide 24/7 with no problems against the same people....because it really works oh so well versus a half-decent ship. And there are no security hits, right?
You're counter argument is ridiculous.
Originally by: Bhaal
If these players can't face the facts that they are asshat griefers, too bad for them...
Preying on the weak will certainly garner you little respect, except from other like minded asshats...
I actually don't disagree with WHAT they are..they're obviously too weak to handle low sec or 0.0, that's obvious. I jus disagree that it should be stopped by CCP or GM's :).
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.04.25 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Kaeten on 25/04/2006 16:58:16
Originally by: Bhaal
Quote: We are a high-sec pirate corporation
In other words, griefers...
You fight those who do not wish to fight back.
I don't know where you have been but take alook around. Not jsut us doing it.
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Bizazedo You're avoiding the consequences of being a true pirate, you said it yourself. You can't be -10, you don't like the chances of dying..
Boo-fracking-hoo ;). You're not tough enough to handle it, obviously, AND THAT'S OKAY.
Was going to make a long post here but I've made so many in this thread that have been ignored all I'll say is this - I have been -10. It sucks because everyone has a war dec on you and you can't fight back (and having to use a hauler alt to get ships sucks)
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: Kaeten on 25/04/2006 17:06:19 guys ffs READ THE POSTS/REPLIES OR STFU
Long time since I've seen so many retards
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Jhonen Senraedi
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:09:00 -
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Well..as self declared high sec pirates...shouldn't there be consequences....PIRACY is ILLEGAL.... So calling yourselves,and other corps like you plus suiciders etc....should all take the consequences of your actions and profession.
What is being perpetrated here is griefing...you can say it isn't but...what consequences do you face...no sec hits ...no concord intervention...Just griefing allegedly random corps for your own pleasure....and spoiling their Eve experience.
Perhaps some real pirates should comment on you no risk tactics....at least some of them are honourable enough to be pirates...and suffer the potential consequences.
You guys are just whiny little girls hiding behind a dodgy game mechanic!
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Jhonen Senraedi
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten Edited by: Kaeten on 25/04/2006 17:06:19 guys ffs READ THE POSTS/REPLIES OR STFU
Long time since I've seen so many retards
Yeah come on Hybrid Syndicate STFU....oh sorry ...he meant people who don't agree with him or his ilk should shut up...
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Lady Ariness
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Perhaps some real pirates should comment on you no risk tactics....at least some of them are honourable enough to be pirates...and suffer the potential consequences.
Well, just passing and saw this and decided maybe I should reply
I think this type of piracy is fine. It's harder to get targets than lowsec piracy but that's offset by the access to empire I guess. I don't get why people keep flaming them as they probably have to put more effort into finding targets than I do as my targets are everywhere and they only have a couple of targets that they can attack and they have to hunt them down acros eve -----
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Kaeten on 25/04/2006 17:20:25
Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi
So calling yourselves,and other corps like you plus suiciders etc....should all take the consequences of your actions and profession.
We do not suicide Means less money in the pocket, kk?
Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi
What is being perpetrated here is griefing...you can say it isn't but...what consequences do you face...no sec hits ...no concord intervention...Just griefing allegedly random corps for your own pleasure....and spoiling their Eve experience.
I'm sorry but lol, "what consequences do you face". we face exactly the same risks as the other corp if not more as to multiple wars (did you know they ca nshoot back) and mercs ohhhhh.
Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi
Perhaps some real pirates should comment on you no risk tactics....at least some of them are honourable enough to be pirates...and suffer the potential consequences.
I beleive sir, you just got served above
Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi
You guys are just whiny little girls hiding behind a dodgy game mechanic!
dodgy game mechanic eh? war dec a dodgy game mechanic? we better hope the devs take it out the game then
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:21:00 -
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The fact remains if you play like a bunch of *******s, you will be treated as such...
Stop trying to defend your actions as anything other than griefing... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
My Hero
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi
Originally by: Kaeten Edited by: Kaeten on 25/04/2006 17:06:19 guys ffs READ THE POSTS/REPLIES OR STFU
Long time since I've seen so many retards
Yeah come on Hybrid Syndicate STFU....oh sorry ...he meant people who don't agree with him or his ilk should shut up...
I bet you haven't read them all pretty sad actully, you what the diffrence is between you and me?
I can back my **** up instead of getting a load of it all over me
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Bizazedo
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Bizazedo on 25/04/2006 17:25:40
Originally by: R31D
Was going to make a long post here but I've made so many in this thread that have been ignored all I'll say is this - I have been -10. It sucks because everyone has a war dec on you and you can't fight back (and having to use a hauler alt to get ships sucks)
Yes, you've already said you couldn't handle the consequences of being a pirate. I agree with you.
Originally by: R31D
And about the 0.0 thing and me being too weak to live there - I lived there for 6 months. Only getting ganks or being ganked is something that in highsec you don't get often. I don't HAVE to be in a group to stand a chance. I can fly solo and not be just a walking killmail for a group of people who really are weak (being in 0.0 doesn't make you strong when you can only do it with another 20 people constantly by your side)
I know, I was more slamming your corp, not you individually. 0.0 is primarily for groups.
Originally by: R31D
Constantly repeating myself gets boring
Looks like we agree, actually.
Concord kills pirates. Concord leaves you alone. You're not real pirates since you don't want to handle the consequences.
I am perfectly okay with your reasons for doing it..it is a way to get targets....just be aware it's a way of avoiding consequences for your actions when you nail newbie corps. Even if they did get a lot of corps to come after you in retaliation, you could just leave the corps....
So it's obvious you don't like dealing with consequences.
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal The fact remains if you play like a bunch of *******s, you will be treated as such...
Stop trying to defend your actions as anything other than griefing...
Could say the same about you guys ganking people in 0.0 (along with the rest of 0.0's inhabitants). You can never have a fair fight, you just grief those who are looking for a fun fight. And what about all the poor noobs NPCing in BS to earn some money - you gank them but that isn't grieifing because they "Knew the risks". Just like people in a war know the risks in that they'll get shot at? They can leave corp or pay up if they want to avoid the war just like people NPCing in 0.0 can leave 0.0
I don't like people in 0.0 and their ganking 'PvP' and their 'holier than thou' attitude because they have all the hard fights in big, bad 0.0 whereas we just gank 2 day old noobs. Sorry, ain't like that.
Maybe I should start flaming people on the forums just because they don't agree with me and do stuff I don't personally like in an attempt to make myself seem important and boost my planet-sized ego....
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal The fact remains if you play like a bunch of *******s, you will be treated as such...
Stop trying to defend your actions as anything other than griefing...
Oh, no more posts to back up your arguments? what a pity, just shows your true colours and how bad you are at arguing
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: R31D on 25/04/2006 17:29:48
Originally by: Bizazedo Concord kills pirates.
Wrong, it's just pirates normally stay in lowsec where there is no Concord
Quote: I am perfectly okay with your reasons for doing it..it is a way to get targets....just be aware it's a way of avoiding consequences for your actions when you nail newbie corps. Even if they did get a lot of corps to come after you in retaliation, you could just leave the corps....
So it's obvious you don't like dealing with consequences.
Until a merc corp declares war on us
There are ALWAYS risks in EVE. Always...
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Bhaal The fact remains if you play like a bunch of *******s, you will be treated as such...
Stop trying to defend your actions as anything other than griefing...
Oh, no more posts to back up your arguments? what a pity, just shows your true colours and how bad you are at arguing
Believe me, Ive argued this topic against many griefers such as you.
But whatever, CCP allows griefing in this game, so have fun.
Just don't expect to be respected for the way you play the game... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
My Hero
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal Just don't expect to be respected for the way you play the game...
Just like most people don't respect the alliances in 0.0 and the tactics and attitudes they employ (unless they are in one themselves)
And I'm sure we can live without your respect
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Bizazedo
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: R31D Wrong, it's just pirates normally stay in lowsec where there is no Concord
Yeah, but you don't even want to have to deal with gate sentry guns lol. And you've already mentioned you don't like it when someone can come after you....
Originally by: R31D
Until a merc corp declares war on us
There are ALWAYS risks in EVE. Always...
I know, you're just avoiding a lot of them ;). Even money says you'd bail like a whipped dog if enough mercs came at you to camp you in Empire for a week or two given your previous comments.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: R31D
Originally by: Bhaal Just don't expect to be respected for the way you play the game...
Just like most people don't respect the alliances in 0.0 and the tactics and attitudes they employ (unless they are in one themselves)
And I'm sure we can live without your respect
If that was the case you would not need the forums to try to defend you in-game actions... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
My Hero
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Bizazedo
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Bizazedo on 25/04/2006 17:35:29
Originally by: R31D Just like most people don't respect the alliances in 0.0 and the tactics and attitudes they employ (unless they are in one themselves)
And I'm sure we can live without your respect
You really believe that no one in Empire respects some 0.0 alliances or some pirates?
....lol....
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Bizazedo
I know, I was more slamming your corp, not you individually. 0.0 is primarily for groups.
Indeed it is, everyone in the corp is from 0.0 so don't you dare give me **** about how we do not know the consiuences of low-sec and 0.0.
Originally by: Bizazedo
Concord kills pirates. Concord leaves you alone. You're not real pirates since you don't want to handle the consequences.
Ok we are fluffy pvpers that prefer high sec? emm no... As we RANSOM people/corps and GO for trips in low-sec and 0.0 I think we deserve the term pirate thank you.
Originally by: Bizazedo
I am perfectly okay with your reasons for doing it..it is a way to get targets....just be aware it's a way of avoiding consequences for your actions when you nail newbie corps. Even if they did get a lot of corps to come after you in retaliation, you could just leave the corps....
I'm sorry but did you just say what I think you said in the bold text? Please read former posts and you'll get your answer to that.
Originally by: Bizazedo So it's obvious you don't like dealing with consequences.
I'm sorry but lewl, Please state what consequences and I'll get bac kto you
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Kaeten on 25/04/2006 17:43:39
Originally by: R31D
Originally by: Bhaal Just don't expect to be respected for the way you play the game...
Just like most people don't respect the alliances in 0.0 and the tactics and attitudes they employ (unless they are in one themselves)
And I'm sure we can live without your respect
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Bizazedo
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten Indeed it is, everyone in the corp is from 0.0 so don't you dare give me **** about how we do not know the consiuences of low-sec and 0.0.
Yeah, okay, high sec "pirate". So are these where the failures in 0.0 end up? ;)
Your friend R31D clear admitted that he didn't want to deal with 0.0/low sec, so your statement there seems kind of....false ;).
Originally by: Kaeten Ok we are fluffy pvpers that prefer high sec? emm no... As we RANSOM people/corps and GO for trips in low-sec and 0.0 I think we deserve the term pirate thank you.
Not for the subject of this thread, you don't. You're clearly bragging about high sec PIRATING..not 0.0 or low sec. You can't be a high sec pirate, you can be in a corp war and that has decidedly less consequences, no matter what enemy, then going in low sec or 0.0.
Again, I'm all for you pounding newb corps into dust. Yay, Hybrid! It's not real piracy though since it avoids the game mechanics set FOR piracy.
Now, you want to be Mr. Bigshot PvP'er who's a pirate..but, sorry, have members who clearly do not, like R31D. Hello, contradiction :).
Originally by: Bizazedo
I am perfectly okay with your reasons for doing it..it is a way to get targets....just be aware it's a way of avoiding consequences for your actions when you nail newbie corps. Even if they did get a lot of corps to come after you in retaliation, you could just leave the corps....
Originally by: Kaeten I'm sorry but did you just say what I think you said in the bold text? Please read former posts and you'll get your answer to that.
You didn't read what I wrote, obviously, you'll see it was directed at R41D, one of your proud members.
Originally by: Kaeten I'm sorry but lewl, Please state what consequences and I'll get bac kto you
Okay, what's your sec status? Below -5? If not, why not?
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.04.25 17:51:00 -
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Quote: Just like most people don't respect the alliances in 0.0 and the tactics and attitudes they employ (unless they are in one themselves)
And I'm sure we can live without your respect
Very well put -----
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.25 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Hunters Presence
Quote: Just like most people don't respect the alliances in 0.0 and the tactics and attitudes they employ (unless they are in one themselves)
And I'm sure we can live without your respect
Very well put
Problem with that line of thinking is 0.0 is lawless space, 1.0-0.5 is not...
He's using a flawed game mechanic to grief, and not take a sec hit for it...
He's playing from a very weak position morality wise, and then trying to defend his actions...
Not going to work... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
My Hero
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Bizazedo
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Posted - 2006.04.25 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: R31D
And I'm sure we can live without your respect
So as to not appear 100% negative, I agree with this fully. You shouldn't care about what others think ;).
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Jhonen Senraedi
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Posted - 2006.04.25 18:03:00 -
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Seems the thread is going off topic and turning into Kaetan flashing his e-peen....
Real Pirates...yeah whatever...anyone can go to 0.0 or low sec..doesn't make them real pirates. Real pirates take sec hits for their actions...all you guys do is grief..period.
Risk v Reward....
Why not come down to Molden and try some real pirating...got a little quiet since ATUF left..
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R31D
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Posted - 2006.04.25 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Bizazedo Somethuing about not being able to deal with 0.0/lowsec
There's a difference between not being able to do something and being fed up and bored with something.
I'm not sure what you do in the game, but whatever it is - I think it's only because your too afraid to do anything else...
And Bhaal - we shouldn't need the forums to defend our actions in the same way others shouldn't need to use the forums to criticize our actions
And to the minny guy - your still repeating yourself
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EvIlBaStArd0
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Posted - 2006.04.25 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Hunters Presence
Quote: Just like most people don't respect the alliances in 0.0 and the tactics and attitudes they employ (unless they are in one themselves)
And I'm sure we can live without your respect
Very well put
Problem with that line of thinking is 0.0 is lawless space, 1.0-0.5 is not...
He's using a flawed game mechanic to grief, and not take a sec hit for it...
He's playing from a very weak position morality wise, and then trying to defend his actions...
Not going to work...
Carebear plain and simple. Do concord help all the roids you pop on daily basis, roids have feelings too you know quit *****in about this its all part of the game |
Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.25 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 25/04/2006 18:30:55
Originally by: EvIlBaStArd0
Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Hunters Presence
Quote: Just like most people don't respect the alliances in 0.0 and the tactics and attitudes they employ (unless they are in one themselves)
And I'm sure we can live without your respect
Very well put
Problem with that line of thinking is 0.0 is lawless space, 1.0-0.5 is not...
He's using a flawed game mechanic to grief, and not take a sec hit for it...
He's playing from a very weak position morality wise, and then trying to defend his actions...
Not going to work...
Carebear plain and simple. Do concord help all the roids you pop on daily basis, roids have feelings too you know quit *****in about this its all part of the game
Well, I have not mined in quite some time actually...
Eventhough CCP allows it, it does not change what IT is...
If you're going to play that way, you should not have a problem accepting what you are...
If you can't accept what you are, maybe you should not play the game in such a matter that brings you so much difficulty accepting the facts. ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
My Hero
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Bizazedo
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Posted - 2006.04.25 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: R31D
There's a difference between not being able to do something and being fed up and bored with something.
Agreed! That's not what you said, though..
Originally by: R31D
2) It's not fun getting continually ganked in lowsec. At least in Empire Wars people can still gang up on me, but I'm not stuck with crappy sec status so I can still go into Empire.
3) Have you tried lowsec piracy? I have. I also don't want to have to pirate in lowsec and then be stuck there until I can find an alliance that's going to take me in so I can NPC to get my sec status up again. It's not generally fun when you have one account and that character is -10 with no way to make ISK except for ransoming - this type of piracy allows me to run missions or whatever if I'm in desperate need of cash.
i.e., don't want to deal with the consequences.
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