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Musashibou Benkei Combined Imperial Fleet JIHADASQUAD 1	Posted - 2011.11.12 16:49:00 - [1] - Quote Increasing their agility and base speed so they're more agile and faster than their tier 2 counter-parts seems pretty logical to me.......... Just so we can lolcatch canes in cyclones :P
Goose99 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 151	Posted - 2011.11.12 16:56:00 - [2] - Quote Musashibou Benkei wrote: Increasing their agility and base speed so they're more agile and faster than their tier 2 counter-parts seems pretty logical to me.......... Just so we can lolcatch canes in cyclones :P Ferox/Brutix needs more buff than just that. Cyclone doesn't need buff.
Musashibou Benkei Combined Imperial Fleet JIHADASQUAD 1	Posted - 2011.11.12 17:12:00 - [3] - Quote ferox is fine as it is. i agree that the brutix needs a buff but that's coming in the form of the blaster rebalancing that's coming soon (tm). and i'm pretty sure the cyclone needs to be faster than its more heavily armored big brother, don't you?
Naomi Knight Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 35	Posted - 2011.11.12 17:17:00 - [4] - Quote Musashibou Benkei wrote: ferox is fine as it is. i agree that the brutix needs a buff but that's coming in the form of the blaster rebalancing that's coming soon (tm). and i'm pretty sure the cyclone needs to be faster than its more heavily armored big brother, don't you? fine?? omg ....
Schnoo The Schnoo 8	Posted - 2011.11.12 17:20:00 - [5] - Quote Well, Prophecy should be changed, it does exactly what Harbinger does but much worse (less turret damage, worse tank, fewer drones). It just makes no sense to use it, as the difference in cost between the two is so small when you use t2 mods. Either making it a missile boat or a drone boat is needed. I don't fly Minmatar ships but it seems the same applies for Cyclone, doing a similar role like Hurricane, just worse. It feels that at least Ferox and Brutix have somewhat different play styles in comparison to their tier 2 counterparts.
Musashibou Benkei Combined Imperial Fleet JIHADASQUAD 1	Posted - 2011.11.12 17:25:00 - [6] - Quote Schnoo wrote: Well, Prophecy should be changed, it does exactly what Harbinger does but much worse (less turret damage, worse tank, fewer drones). It just makes no sense to use it, as the difference in cost between the two is so small when you use t2 mods. Either making it a missile boat or a drone boat is needed. I don't fly Minmatar ships but it seems the same applies for Cyclone, doing a similar role like Hurricane, just worse. It feels that at least Ferox and Brutix have somewhat different play styles in comparison to their tier 2 counterparts. this is exactly my belief as well. the brutix is much more of a "more gank, less tank" concept than the myrm. as for the ferox, well.......i do agree that it fills the turret role that the drake doesn't. but by the same token, the drake has an extra mid slot for even more tank coupled with its already increased raw shield hp so.
Daedalus Arcova 85	Posted - 2011.11.12 18:27:00 - [7] - Quote I think balancing BCs is a bit more complex than just bringing the Tier 1s into line with the Tier 2s. All BCs need balancing against other ship classes as well. Currently, nearly all other battlecruisers and cruisers are made obsolete by the idiot-proof damage projection and tanking abilities of the Drake and the mix of mobility and DPS of the Hurricane. The Drake is hideously overpowered. A ship that can thave comparable EHP to some battleships, do consistent and respectable damage to all sizes of targets out to ~70km, launch a full flight of light drones, and still stay reasonably mobile, is just too good. The new fashion in PVP Drake fits is for cap stability while perma-running the MWD. It's the ultimate in trained monkey PVP. I'm not sure what kind of nerf the Drake needs, but it needs one to bring it back into line with its counterparts, and foster some variety in roaming sub-battleship fleets. The Ferox is as terrible as the Drake is overpowered. At the very least, it needs another turret slot, and a big boost to PG and CPU to make use of it. The Hurricane is overpowered, but no more so than any other Winmatar ship. Nerf TE falloff bonuses and AC tracking, and the Hurricane (and most other Minmatar ships) will become balanced. The Brutix suffers from the same problems as all blaster boats, which don't need re-examining here. Besides fixing those general problems to both the weapons and the hulls, the Brutix needs a more useful bonus than active tanking. It simply doesn't have the slot layout to make active tanking work. Falloff? Tracking? Armour resists? The Myrmidon is basically perfect as it is. Durable, versatile, but slow as a brick. I've not flown the Cyclone, Harbinger or Prophecy, so I can't really say much about them. The Minmatar and Amarr Tier 1 BCs need a role distinct from their T2 brethren though. The Prophecy in particular just seems an utterly pointless ship, completely outclassed by the Harbinger in every way
TrollFace TrololMcFluf Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 38	Posted - 2011.11.12 18:31:00 - [8] - Quote Musa being logical i doubt that from your time being blue to us your grasp on logic wasnt something to be proud of remember that vindicator and the cal militia or trying to have all those nasty people come after BA/PH because you where having a sulk Still on topic before you go crying to a GM ferox needs a dmg bonus to hrybrids and another mid in exchange of a low cyclone either needs enough boost bonus to make a active tank worth wile without resprting to a XL booster and CPU upgrade or a change to a 7.5% bonus to shield capacity per level brutix could use another low slot the chicken needs either a dmg and cap bonus or maybe make it a missile HAM ship like a weaker damnation But they all need more PG/CPU [insert tears here] ps. yes i will keep tabs on you guys with my non committing bombers <3
Anthony Lakehurst DARK ADAMA Shadow of xXDEATHXx 0	Posted - 2011.11.12 19:27:00 - [9] - Quote Why buffing old ships. In a multi party war in real life, i would expect each and every party bringing in new and improved ships, eventually making the old ones plain obsolete. Therefore the answer to a Drake should not be nerfing or buffing.. The other races, especially Galente and Minmatar should come with an anti-Drake.
Schnoo The Schnoo 8	Posted - 2011.11.12 20:09:00 - [10] - Quote Anthony Lakehurst wrote: Why buffing old ships. In a multi party war in real life, i would expect each and every party bringing in new and improved ships, eventually making the old ones plain obsolete. Therefore the answer to a Drake should not be nerfing or buffing.. The other races, especially Galente and Minmatar should come with an anti-Drake. Because this is a game, not real life. A lot of developer hours were invested into creation of old ships, throwing them away would mean all that time was wasted. Also, there's a concern that a constant introduction of new ships would be hard to balance.
Naomi Knight Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 35	Posted - 2011.11.12 20:23:00 - [11] - Quote buffing tier 1 battlecruisers you mean make them usefulll??? oh noo that is totally agains ccp's doctrine
Draahk Chimera Interstellar eXodus 12	Posted - 2011.11.13 07:42:00 - [12] - Quote I think rather then buffing them, IE making them more alike tier 2 bc's, their role could be changed. I have suggested before that their weapon bonus could be removed completely in favor for a Warfare link bonus. Something like "2% bonus to the effectivness of [racial] warfare link bonus". Then we would have Battlecruisers at 2%/level, Command Ships at 3%/level and Strategic Cruisers at 5%/level. [IMG]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s302/nattravn/EVE/draakhchimeranaglfar.png[/IMG]
Obsidiana White-Noise 14	Posted - 2011.11.13 17:51:00 - [13] - Quote Sadly, few races have more than one great cruiser. Ships like the Caracal, Omen, Rupture, and Thorax stand out in terms of use and excellence. Same for frigates. Battleships are the exception. I feel this is a problem with eve in general.

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