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knifee
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Posted - 2006.04.25 21:56:00 -
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New 'opt in' patch that installs without asking via m$ auto updates. ppl with pirate copys can look foward to a notice letting them they know they should buy a ligit copy.
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Jolted Meridim
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Posted - 2006.04.25 22:07:00 -
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I wouldn't worry too much if I was a pirate. The hacks are usually out within days.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.25 22:08:00 -
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 Originally by: knifee
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New 'opt in' patch that installs without asking via m$ auto updates. ppl with pirate copys can look foward to a notice letting them they know they should buy a ligit copy.
What pirate uses auto-updates?
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Coconut Joe
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Posted - 2006.04.25 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: knifee
Linkage
New 'opt in' patch that installs without asking via m$ auto updates. ppl with pirate copys can look foward to a notice letting them they know they should buy a ligit copy.
What pirate uses auto-updates?
I used auto update for 2 years with nothing going wrong, untill I got a free Student version from university. So, yeah.
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xxShadexx
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Posted - 2006.04.25 23:01:00 -
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Im in the U.K. Does anybody know where I can buy a copy of Windows XP Home cheaply? I got a new rig but havnt installed the OS on it yet as my video card hasnt arrived. I had idea's about not buying a copy but if this is true...you know ...hehe.
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knifee
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Posted - 2006.04.25 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: xxShadexx
Im in the U.K. Does anybody know where I can buy a copy of Windows XP Home cheaply? I got a new rig but havnt installed the OS on it yet as my video card hasnt arrived. I had idea's about not buying a copy but if this is true...you know ...hehe.
you can get an oem copy for about ú65 if you look at the bigger online mail order sites. Some will sell a 'boxed oem' without needing to buy hardware with it.
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Subaru Yakamitsukamosuki
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Posted - 2006.04.25 23:21:00 -
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a power cable counts as 'hardware' when you buy oem stuff
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knifee
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Posted - 2006.04.25 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Subaru Yakamitsukamosuki
a power cable counts as 'hardware' when you buy oem stuff
not sure about a power cable.. but anything that upgrades the inside of the pc or is required to use the pc like a mouse or keyboard counts.
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xxShadexx
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Posted - 2006.04.25 23:34:00 -
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Wat about an American site which ships, or will I get pwned by VAT?
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.04.26 01:09:00 -
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Interesting, but I doubt it'll be very effective. Don't most pirates use Volume License Keys that are in use by big universities and corporations?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.26 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 26/04/2006 01:14:18
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Jeretomi
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Posted - 2006.04.26 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: xxShadexx
Wat about an American site which ships, or will I get pwned by VAT?
You will more than likely get hit by Customs tax when it comes into the country, so the margin is likely to be be slight. The only way round it is to get a friend or relative to buy it for you in The States and to mark it as a "gift" when they send it...but even this get's hit for tax sometimes.
You can get OEM software without buying hardware from some places. Win XP Home from EBuyer costs ú57.50 inc VAT, and XP Pro costs ú91.78.
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Khatred
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:47:00 -
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My laptop came with genuine Windows XP so no biggy there. However, I have 3 other computers and I can't be bothered to give M$ 300 bucks. 100$ for all 3, yeah, 300$ no.
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Sirkill
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Posted - 2006.04.26 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: knifee
Originally by: Subaru Yakamitsukamosuki
a power cable counts as 'hardware' when you buy oem stuff
not sure about a power cable.. but anything that upgrades the inside of the pc or is required to use the pc like a mouse or keyboard counts.
Don't think a power cable will do it, but a ú3 CPU fan definatetly counts.
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xxShadexx
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Posted - 2006.04.26 22:12:00 -
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You will more than likely get hit by Customs tax when it comes into the country, so the margin is likely to be be slight. The only way round it is to get a friend or relative to buy it for you in The States and to mark it as a "gift" when they send it...but even this get's hit for tax sometimes.
You can get OEM software without buying hardware from some places. Win XP Home from EBuyer costs ú57.50 inc VAT, and XP Pro costs ú91.78.
Ah ok tht helps a lot.
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Mia Archer
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Posted - 2006.04.27 08:41:00 -
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I dont know why they are supplying critical updates to users or pirated software. IMO they should build measures in to ensure that it cant be updated, even manually. If they dont pay for the product they dont deserve support for it.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2006.04.27 08:49:00 -
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well, what it does is just showing the user if your copy is legit or not right? at least i belive so, so i would not care really..
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KingsGambit
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Posted - 2006.04.27 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mia Archer
I dont know why they are supplying critical updates to users or pirated software. IMO they should build measures in to ensure that it cant be updated, even manually. If they dont pay for the product they dont deserve support for it.
That's what they're working towards, but they still need to allow all users, legitimate or not, access to those critical security updates. Otherwise you'll find lots of machines with vulnerabilities on the Net which become DDOS boxes, Spam relays or virus stopovers. it'd be a hackers/anarchists dream.
Regarding the link in the original post, interesting article, great comments. I particularly liked "Customers tell us they want to know whether they are running a genuine copy of Windows". Yeah I bet customers said that! :) WH Smith, a high street news agents/book store in the UK has a loyalty card type thing. It used to give 2% of what you spend back to you, and they eventually changed it to 1%. The reason for it was "we have listened to our customers and are glad to be able to offer a better service". Yeah, the customers asked that they be given less....liars all of them. Still MS is within it's rights to ask users to validate their software, but it's going to annoy legitimate users as much as pirates I think, though it's unlikely to dent their market share.
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Posted - 2006.04.27 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: knifee
Linkage
New 'opt in' patch that installs without asking via m$ auto updates. ppl with pirate copys can look foward to a notice letting them they know they should buy a ligit copy.
My auto-updater actually asked me to install the update. Though it obviously can't be uninstalled now, nor does it even show on the "Windows Update History" 
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Posted - 2006.04.27 14:19:00 -
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how sad, it doesn't work on my copy
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Cypherous
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Posted - 2006.04.27 14:27:00 -
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Well MS's last genuine advantage patch was useless because you could install the plugin and then disable it and the website would know no better, just get a VLK copy and as far as MS are concerned its legit, no activation required, besides mine is a trial version that doesn't expire so its all good ^^
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.04.27 22:08:00 -
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It's amazing the number of people who are annoyed at Microsoft for implimenting this so that they can't update their stolen goods with updates paid for by legitimate users.
An oft unknown problem within the PC world exists whereby a customer buys a PC from a supplier in good faith and they supply an illegal copy of Windows with it, rather than a licensed OEM version - vastly increasing the supplier's margins.
In this situation, it is the customer who is liable for any fines etc if prosecuted. A number of companies (I believe MS do offer this) will give you a copy of the software for free if you give them information regarding where the illegal copy was purchased from. So in this situation, Microsoft are actually protecting end users.
I would have an immediate problem with this if any personal information about whether or not my PC is legal or not is sent back to Microsoft (or any other company for that matter). Until then, they are enforcing the law through technology (without breaking any other laws/infringing rights in the process).
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i think ive done it a couple of times and nearly done it a lot.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.28 00:35:00 -
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The fact some people can pirate software and then get upset about anti-piracy checks makes me want to punt a small child...
Originally by: Dark Shikari
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xxShadexx
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Posted - 2006.04.28 00:37:00 -
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Its Micro$oft...
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.04.28 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Aure
It's amazing the number of people who are annoyed at Microsoft for implimenting this so that they can't update their stolen goods with updates paid for by legitimate users.
You've never had a copy protection scheme break spectacularly on something you've bought?
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Da Death
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Posted - 2006.04.28 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Da Death on 28/04/2006 15:46:33
hey! umm wtf... so fast? hehe... oh yeah! huhuhuhuuu
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.04.28 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Aure
It's amazing the number of people who are annoyed at Microsoft for implimenting this so that they can't update their stolen goods with updates paid for by legitimate users.
Its also a pian in the ass if you upgrade your machine...they have a track record fo trying to stop you from transfering the lisance to new machine when the old one is longer in use etc...
Yes MS has the right to try and stop pirating...but they have tried to cross the line to to being far to restictive to protect thier bottom line...
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:27:00 -
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Xp's activation ended the era of installing on all of one's PCs with one CDrom. it was nice to purchase a single copy of 98SE or win2k and use it on 3 computers. figured no harm was done as it was a legal CD and still only being used by me(so technicly im still a single seat)
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.28 20:55:00 -
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almost legal copies 4tw 
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Star Commander
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:16:00 -
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There are ways and means or getting rid of M$ annoyingly added nagware crap.
The internets a great tool, use it
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