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Zezman
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Posted - 2006.04.27 02:40:00 -
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Edited by: Zezman on 27/04/2006 02:43:06
http://pvp isserious.ytmnd.com/ <-- to make the link work, remove the space between pvp and is
ZOMGROFLWTFBBQ 
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SpaceDrake Storyteller
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Posted - 2006.04.27 03:26:00 -
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Magnificent.
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2006.04.27 03:42:00 -
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i don't get it....
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Samirol
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Posted - 2006.04.27 04:38:00 -
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just....wow...absolutely amazing
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Aeon Valerii
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Posted - 2006.04.27 05:18:00 -
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WoW is serious business.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2006.04.27 05:45:00 -
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Is it worth infecting my pristine browser with apple quicktime?
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Zomiaen
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Posted - 2006.04.27 05:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Lygos
Is it worth infecting my pristine browser with apple quicktime?
Yes....yes it is...
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Originally by: Ninjja
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Lluthiunne Atalaron
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Posted - 2006.04.27 08:44:00 -
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sounds like crap to me - but still pretty funny.
Imagine how much more annoyed he be if it were EVE.
Ive never understood how people think WoW pvp is hte hardcore *shudder*
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Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2006.04.27 08:51:00 -
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I think that's made up, although stranger things have happened.
Exiles recruiting
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hattifnatt
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Posted - 2006.04.27 14:24:00 -
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400x120@24000 Bytes Maximum please. -Capsicum
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Chip2k3
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Posted - 2006.04.27 14:31:00 -
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Thats an impressive gank rofl
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.04.27 14:38:00 -
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Explain for someone at work w/o speakers?
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Sgt Blade
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Posted - 2006.04.27 17:10:00 -
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heheh that was funny is there some sort of site for the real thing, if it is real?
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2006.04.27 17:29:00 -
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These days I could all to easily see somthing like that being real 
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.04.27 17:42:00 -
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Looser
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Originally by: Oveur
I see boobies! \o/
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.04.27 17:50:00 -
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Sounds awfully fabricated but lol anyways
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Ebedar
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Posted - 2006.04.27 18:16:00 -
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Intel for sale
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Sakura Nihil
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Posted - 2006.04.27 18:40:00 -
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.27 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Kurren on 27/04/2006 19:40:55
That's not funny... Maybe if it were somebody older, but it was just a kid. This kid attacked his family because of a video game... do you realize just what kind of reprocutions that's going to have on the video game industry?
Jack Thompson is going to be all over this...
Who'm I kidding... PvP is probably why Jack Thompson is how he is.
It's really not cool that it happened though...
edit - if it even happened
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Brastagi
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Posted - 2006.04.27 19:42:00 -
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Oh boy that remind me of a kid who bashed his keyboard when playing something and scream around
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Benedictus Setaro
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Posted - 2006.04.27 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren
Edited by: Kurren on 27/04/2006 19:40:55
That's not funny... Maybe if it were somebody older, but it was just a kid. This kid attacked his family because of a video game... do you realize just what kind of reprocutions that's going to have on the video game industry?
Correction, he attacked his family because he was a psycho, not because he played games.
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.04.27 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren
Edited by: Kurren on 27/04/2006 19:40:55
That's not funny... Maybe if it were somebody older, but it was just a kid. This kid attacked his family because of a video game...
Not really. If he was getting ganked so badly, he couldve just logged off, and came back on later. I doubt anyone would bother waiting. Instead he chose to sit and get ganked repeatedly, setting off his anger problems, making him go nuts. Stupid choice, and if you ask me, the kid's a moron. It's noone elses fault, he could've stopped it so easily.
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Originally by: Oveur
I see boobies! \o/
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.27 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kurren on 27/04/2006 20:02:50
Originally by: Benedictus Setaro
Originally by: Kurren
Edited by: Kurren on 27/04/2006 19:40:55
That's not funny... Maybe if it were somebody older, but it was just a kid. This kid attacked his family because of a video game... do you realize just what kind of reprocutions that's going to have on the video game industry?
Correction, he attacked his family because he was a psycho, not because he played games.
Yes, but if the story is true... this kid is only psycho when WoW comes into the picture. He's completely normal otherwise, but the mentioning of a player's name sets him off. It will be construed to "video games' fault" despite what you say. It's not even the kid's fault really... I would blame the parents. He's 11 playing a game that allows killing. But, despite what you or I think, if this story is true it will be blamed on video games.
edit - unless the world has become more intelligent and self-responsible... fat chance of that though...
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Benedictus Setaro
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Posted - 2006.04.27 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Benedictus Setaro on 27/04/2006 20:22:29
If the kid attacked his parents with a knife, then he's blatently mentally ill. If it wasn't WoW, something else would have set him off. Maybe his team being beat 7-0 or something, after which he would stab everyone in the changing room.
Or something. Bottom line is, the kid was a little pyscho to begin with, gankage or not.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.04.27 20:23:00 -
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Isn't it sort of illegal to talk about patients...?
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LordMordred
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Posted - 2006.04.27 20:26:00 -
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Was at a LAN party once, playing C&C Generals at the time I think.
Anyways I was going 1 against 2 vs these two guys, and after beating them I started to give one guy a tip on what he could have done just a little different. Basically what the one hole he missed in my defense.
He freaks out all of a sudden outta no where, bashes his own laptop screen in, breaking it. The laptop also ends up tumbling over onto the floor. Tries to take a swing at me then. His mate and myself both hold him down and his mate tells me that he gets like that sometimes.
Moral of the story, PvP can be deadly. (And costly  )
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2006.04.27 20:35:00 -
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haha
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Lord Slater
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Posted - 2006.04.27 22:01:00 -
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Cant find it 
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Verizana
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Posted - 2006.04.27 22:20:00 -
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ahahahahahahahaa
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Zezman
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Posted - 2006.04.27 23:34:00 -
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Bottom line is, it is the person who has the anger issue, not the video game. I have always had a very bad temper as well. I could get furious against any game, whether it be an old Atari 2600 game called Enduro, a Super Nintendo game called Street Fighter II, or an online PC game called Tribes III. It isn't the games fault. It is 100% the players fault for getting into that state of mind while playing a game. If that child has that problem, then he shouldn't be playing that game. Enough said.
Fortunately for me, I have learned control over my emotions, even at the height of rage, I control myself and do not permit myself to lash out at anyone or anything. If I get ganked in this game, and become infuriated, as it has happened before, I know what triggers my anger, and I quietly and calmly log off and allow myself to cool down before returning to the game. Unfortunately for this 11 year old kid, he has not learned these skills of self control.
It isn't World of Warcraft's fault, not even slightly.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.04.27 23:47:00 -
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This is too funny for words.
People who whine about it not being funny because it's a kid and something or other etc etc...you shouldn't keep your sense of humor locked away in a box on a shelf in the attic. Learn to laugh, it's good for you.
Hell, I've had a lot of mental problems in my life, and it's still funny to me. It's not like I don't understand what he's going through...if anything, it makes it funnier.
Originally by: Kurren
That's not funny... Maybe if it were somebody older, but it was just a kid.
That makes it funnier.
Originally by: Kurren
This kid attacked his family because of a video game...
Like they said, he attacked them because he's mentally ill. There's a serious difference.
Originally by: Kurren
do you realize just what kind of reprocutions that's going to have on the video game industry?
I have trouble imagining that people in positions of power are YTMND fans.
Originally by: Kurren
It's not even the kid's fault really... I would blame the parents. He's 11 playing a game that allows killing. But, despite what you or I think, if this story is true it will be blamed on video games.
Wrong again. It's the parents' fault for not getting him a psychiatrist. Even for 11-year-olds, games with killing aren't bad if the kids are mentally stable. I was listening to screams of men dying by the dozens in C&C when I was about 8 and I never attacked my family.
Originally by: Scorpyn
Isn't it sort of illegal to talk about patients...?
Only if you include their names or other identifying information.
Originally by: Ominus Decre
I think it's more disgraceful that someone, the "girl friend", abuses client privileages by divulging information about this "11 year old kid".
As long as the girlfriend doesn't reveal who he is IRL, yes, it's acceptable. Although I'm not sure where the line is regarding telling them what is in-game alias on an MMO...
Originally by: Ominus Decre
Then to top it off, there's an obvious sense of enjoyment that the guy "ruined the kids life" by "ganking the **** out of him".
No, a mental disorder ruined the kid's life.
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2006.04.28 00:14:00 -
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Let's just hope these people stay out of Eve.
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ivar R'dhak
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Posted - 2006.04.28 00:39:00 -
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Yeah, funny. I laughed my butt off hearing this. And I believe it. Life IS weird like that.
The really sad part is that this kid will get pumped full with chemicals that turn his psyche and brain into mush and become another brave little zombie. Sluggin through school as he should and ending up in some boring 9-5 job.
The reason why he is like that, probably doesn¦t bother anybody. Least of all the Shrinks pumping him full of psychotropic drugs. 
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Cigs Mcduff
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Posted - 2006.04.28 01:01:00 -
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Sorry but i dont see the humor in having a childs life ruined.
This kid will probably never have a normal life and is in for a extremely hard time.
For those of you that laugh, I hope you one day have to deal with psychological trauma like that.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.04.28 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: ivar R'dhak
The really sad part is that this kid will get pumped full with chemicals that turn his psyche and brain into mush and become another brave little zombie. Sluggin through school as he should and ending up in some boring 9-5 job.
How the hell do you know that? Have you ever BEEN on psychoactive drugs? They don't use Thorazine anymore. I suspect the primary drug will be a mood stabilizer like Lamictal. I take Lamictal, and just ask anybody in this game who knows me if I'm zombified or not. You'll get a pretty consistent answer.
Originally by: Cigs Mcduff
For those of you that laugh, I hope you one day have to deal with psychological trauma like that.
I already have.
And I laughed. A lot.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2006.04.28 03:56:00 -
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Hahahahahaha, good story.
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Benilopax
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Posted - 2006.04.28 04:07:00 -
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Not funny to me myself but ive been researching it and found that this is a growing problem with people with mental problems playing these games.
Will add this to my documentary.
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Michiyo Daishi
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Posted - 2006.04.28 05:29:00 -
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lol. Seriously though, if this were to be true, somethings seriously wrong with:
1. WoW (then again I belive this is a given :P but part in part of the entire problem)
2. the parents (for not noticing their kid has serious anger issues)
3. the kid (for sitting there and taking the abuse instead of logging off and giving it a week to rest his anger. Then again someone this disturbed wouldnt have thought of that )
4. (forgive me for being John Thompson-ish) PvP in MMO's in general (then again, wouldnt that make ANY MMO game boring? )
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.04.28 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Cigs Mcduff
Sorry but i dont see the humor in having a childs life ruined.
This kid will probably never have a normal life and is in for a extremely hard time.
For those of you that laugh, I hope you one day have to deal with psychological trauma like that.
I have anger issues, I have had them from a very young age...I laughed my ass off at this.
The game has nothing to do with underlying issues this kid has, If he has a history of this type of behavour WTF are his parents letting play the type of game for?
It could have happened with any type game from RTS to FPS that has internet PvP. Christ it could have happened with single player games as well ( I remeber more than one occssion where I had to walk away at really fustrating parts of games).
This could have easily happened with something as simple as pong if someone he was playing with kept kicking his ass...
Face it the kid has serious issues and helping him over come them is the job of his caregivers/parents.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.04.28 17:18:00 -
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Fake.
But funny as ****.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.28 17:36:00 -
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please say thats a joke
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris
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Coconut Joe
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Posted - 2006.04.28 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cigs Mcduff
Sorry but i dont see the humor in having a childs life ruined.
This kid will probably never have a normal life and is in for a extremely hard time.
For those of you that laugh, I hope you one day have to deal with psychological trauma like that.
lmao, this statement is nearly funny as that link
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.28 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Scorpyn
Isn't it sort of illegal to talk about patients...?
Only if you include their names or other identifying information.
Originally by: Ominus Decre
I think it's more disgraceful that someone, the "girl friend", abuses client privileages by divulging information about this "11 year old kid".
As long as the girlfriend doesn't reveal who he is IRL, yes, it's acceptable. Although I'm not sure where the line is regarding telling them what is in-game alias on an MMO...
No, it's all illegal. The only thing to keep her from getting arrested is that she hasn't divuldged on who SHE is. Patient/Doctor Priviledge... no discussion of a patient what-so-ever. Thus, doctors make you sign papers to say it's ok to discuss your information (and they have to tell you what they're going to discuss and with who). Two, an 11 year old with an obvious mental illness can't sign that paper. If this is real, and the doctor's name is revealed, she can be fired, fined, blacklisted... all that. It's illegal.
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Mr Floppyknickers
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Posted - 2006.04.29 04:13:00 -
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Quote:
No, it's all illegal. The only thing to keep her from getting arrested is that she hasn't divuldged on who SHE is. Patient/Doctor Priviledge... no discussion of a patient what-so-ever. Thus, doctors make you sign papers to say it's ok to discuss your information (and they have to tell you what they're going to discuss and with who). Two, an 11 year old with an obvious mental illness can't sign that paper. If this is real, and the doctor's name is revealed, she can be fired, fined, blacklisted... all that. It's illegal.
Then explain how people learn and treat these things? Why doctors can bring students in to witness such outbursts from patients, and allow them to study people at length? Do the student simply observe and never discuss things amongst themselves and never get outside input from trusted freinds or peers to better understand situations? Doctor patient privilge extends more into the courtroom then anywhere else.
Additionally, by revealing the situation to her boyfreind she can then discuss with him, getting the specifics of the incident, be better able to understand the kids trigger, and therefore be better able to help treat him. She's doing what she should do, and since no ones giving the kids name, address, or psyche ward info he's not being harmed in any way.
to those lamenting the destruction of this child's life...
1. It isn't destroyed, they've idetified it early and thusly have more time to treat and work with him so he can become a normal member of society. By learning that he can be triggered by contests with other people they can educate him on what sort of activities to avoid like sports, games, or anthingthat may be to much for his psyche to cope with. More that likely they will begin building up tolerance for situations like this by gradually exposing him to contest situation bet it video games or something as simple as checkers so he can learn to better control his own violent nature.
2. If his mental state was so frail that getting killed in an online game set him off then it was simply a matter of time before some other minor thing triggered him. At least in this situation he was at home and while it is tragic the fact he beat his sister and attempted to harm his family, it's better than if he was unsupervised at the park or school and actually did serious deadly harm to a stranger.
3. It's not the fault of video games. By and large television and movies are carriers of much more pervasive violence and hate yet because video games are the scapegoat vogue now they catch hell. The kid is mentally unstable, video games didn't make him that way, he was already that way through either chemical imbalances or some unknown trama in his home life. The kid is inherently violent, anything that stresses his ego is going to trigger him.
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2006.04.29 04:57:00 -
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This takes way, way too long to get good. God bless ventrillo though.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.29 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: Zezman
Edited by: Zezman on 27/04/2006 02:43:06
http://pvp isserious.ytmnd.com/ <-- to make the link work, remove the space between pvp and is
ZOMGROFLWTFBBQ
Meh, 11 year olds shouldn't be playing WoW. I swear some parents don't even give a damn about their kids...
"here honey, go play this game online, don't worry about meeting real people, you can grow up and live in our basement forever, or try to murder us before you turn 12... whatever comes first."
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
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Bentguru
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Posted - 2006.04.29 07:32:00 -
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Edited by: Bentguru on 29/04/2006 07:33:34
Originally by: Mr Floppyknickers
Then explain how people learn and treat these things? Why doctors can bring students in to witness such outbursts from patients, and allow them to study people at length? Do the student simply observe and never discuss things amongst themselves and never get outside input from trusted freinds or peers to better understand situations? Doctor patient privilge extends more into the courtroom then anywhere else.
Because every patient that is studied is talked to by his/her attending and asked if they are ok with the medical students being there. TV is no way indicative of how med school students are taught (IE there is no patient lying on a gurney just sitting there while a doctor comes and discusses her case with 3 med students). I'm speaking from personal experiance. If the patient is ok with it, the students learn. If not, they don't look at that patient specifically. Of course this is while they're in the hospital being examined and such. The students would know her information, name address and such, and so would the patient would have to give permission.
It is not illegal to discuss cases without personal info. Hospitals require nurses and such to sign an NDA (and the sister was a nurse, not a doc) which prohibts people from speaking about specific cases. So your not allowed to say, "Alan B. has stomach cancer." But you can say "I have a patient with stomach cancer" and discuss the case without any specifics to the person. Again, speaking from personal experiance. The sister was within her legal rights to do what she did, it's generally frowned on when not speaking within the medical community, but it's not surprising being that it's a funny story.
I don't have a sig :(
but i do have a video
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Llucia
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Posted - 2006.04.29 09:38:00 -
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o my
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.04.29 11:10:00 -
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haha
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B0rn2KiLL
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Posted - 2006.04.29 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Looser
its an 11 year old kid
but god damn
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Tajidan
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Posted - 2006.04.29 11:59:00 -
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dont know the facts exactly but lately in Germany a girl got multi-****oid and couldnt differ any more of RL and her several other Personalitys. guess what, she played WoW. But thats not a reason to blame the game, if the person who plays got Problems it just can knock them off. Its like smokin the green, som ppl get HC-Paranoia and lazy ass zombie style and others can smoke 5mins before a major exam and still get the highest grade.
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Virida
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Posted - 2006.04.29 13:25:00 -
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Uh. Well, it is illegal to tell that kind of information to others, yes. In any country i know of.
But, kids need to learn they dont get their wills at all times. And shi-zo-id illnesses cant be caused by wow alone, but this is tragical.
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Hellspawn01
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Posted - 2006.04.29 14:32:00 -
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I hope that german politicians dont hear about this otherwise they are going to try to get games like WoW banned here.
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SibSpi
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Posted - 2006.04.29 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: SibSpi on 29/04/2006 20:33:25
I can't use the quote function cuz it's broken for me.
Anyway.
I've been playing on computers since I was 3 (1990). I started playing 'killing games' when I was about 7, at a friend's place where he had Doom, Doom2, Wolfenstein and Spear, and a whole bunch of other 'kiddies' games that still involved a fair amount of killing stuff. I've played just about every kind of brutal game that has come out to date.
But z0mg guess what, I'm not a physcho. I'm in fact a rather skinny, timid geek - and while I'm quick to get angry at people, I'm more likely to just eventually storm off red faced and sulk for a week than take a knife to friends and family as a result.
*GAMES* - Regardless of content - do NOT make people violent. If you want to argue 'learned behaviour' Who is at fault for learning the behaviour of a virtual freaking world? It's not real life. It's most certainly not something that's alright *to do* in real life. It's most freaking certainly not the reason behind violence. The game doesn't commit violence against people - the person using the game as an excuse to commit violence is the one commiting violence against people.
kkthnxbb :/
*edit* games tend to have epilepsy warnings somewhere - I think to resolve the damned stupid 'z0mg games make people violent' issue games should have a tag on that says 'WARNING: MAY CAUSE EXTREME ANGER IN PEOPLE WITH TEMPER PROBLEMS!!!'
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.04.29 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tajidan
s-h-i-z-o on the censor list?
Because it's spelled "schizo".
Oh and for reference, I specifically asked my mother, who is a doctor. As long as there is no identifying information, you're allowed to discuss details of any medical case with anybody.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2006.04.29 21:28:00 -
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Why the hell do people in WoW get ****ed off when they die?
They don't lose anything.
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Nuala Reece
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Posted - 2006.04.29 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Oh and for reference, I specifically asked my mother, who is a doctor. As long as there is no identifying information, you're allowed to discuss details of any medical case with anybody.
Confidentiality's a tricky one sometimes. Generally speaking it's assumed that discussing a case but not the person is acceptable so long as this is done, like you say, without identifying information. The line's maybe getting even more blurry with this one though, assuming it to be real, as the training nurse has identified the kid to the storyteller - not with his rl identity, but certainly an identity by which he could find the kid online and/or identify him to other players. I'd consider that a breach of the kid's rights to confidentiality.
Going to oter posts, I think it's a mistake to talk about any 11 year old as 'schizo', 'psycho' or 'mentally ill'. As a rule of thumb, 11 year olds haven't yet fully developed 'adult' thinking and so trying to fit them into adult boxes makes no sense. I've seen perfectly normal kids entirely lost in complete rage and chasing each oter with various 'weapons'. It's not because they're crazy or psychotic, it's because they're children who are incredibly angry and who don't have the emotional development to manage their emotions in the same way that adults or older kids do.
It's curious that, while there's been something of a rush to declare how funy the story is or how nuts the child is, there's been a conspicuous resistance to anyone pointing out what a ****ty way to behave it is for the storyteller to repeatedly gank someone and then joke about it even after becoming aware of the age of his victim and the impact his actions had on him. He doesn't have to take the blame for the kid going into a rage and stabbing his family, but he should take some responsibility for being a ****.
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Originally by: Nuala Reece
Going to oter posts, I think it's a mistake to talk about any 11 year old as 'schizo', 'psycho' or 'mentally ill'.
That's not necessarily true. Children can have very serious mental disorders too, and it's often much, much worse for them. My sister has for years been extremely mentally ill. It's not just "being a child", it's very, very real.
Originally by: Nuala Reece
It's curious that, while there's been something of a rush to declare how funy the story is or how nuts the child is, there's been a conspicuous resistance to anyone pointing out what a ****ty way to behave it is for the storyteller to repeatedly gank someone and then joke about it even after becoming aware of the age of his victim and the impact his actions had on him. He doesn't have to take the blame for the kid going into a rage and stabbing his family, but he should take some responsibility for being a ****.
It has something to do with scale. Ganking somebody over and over again (especially in a game like WoW where there's no real penalty associated with being ganked) is mildly annoying. Beating up your sister and pulling a knife on your parents is pathological.
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Originally by: Nuala Reece
Going to oter posts, I think it's a mistake to talk about any 11 year old as 'schizo', 'psycho' or 'mentally ill'. As a rule of thumb, 11 year olds haven't yet fully developed 'adult' thinking and so trying to fit them into adult boxes makes no sense. I've seen perfectly normal kids entirely lost in complete rage and chasing each oter with various 'weapons'. It's not because they're crazy or psychotic, it's because they're children who are incredibly angry and who don't have the emotional development to manage their emotions in the same way that adults or older kids do.
It's curious that, while there's been something of a rush to declare how funy the story is or how nuts the child is, there's been a conspicuous resistance to anyone pointing out what a ****ty way to behave it is for the storyteller to repeatedly gank someone and then joke about it even after becoming aware of the age of his victim and the impact his actions had on him. He doesn't have to take the blame for the kid going into a rage and stabbing his family, but he should take some responsibility for being a ****.
Hmm I was refered to a child shrink due to anger issues when I was aboutthat age but the background was a lot more involved than this case (not going to go into it), but unless their are issues in the kids background by age 11 he should know whats approrate behavour.
I did and I lost it only after long periods of fustration, mind you I still have a fairly bad temper in some ways but its a weird temper
Thus I can see why the guy thats telling the story acts the way he doespurely as its not something that will cause him to lose it as the kid did,therefore its just werid or funny, I lose my temper over things that does not seem to bother most other people and I am prefectly calm over other things that seem to upset a lot of other people.
Also I don't see from the sound file that the guy in question went after the kid on purpose or tried to send him over the edge or pick on him, he was doing what seems to be fairly typical game behavoir. Its not his fault that the kid really does seem to have issues over it.
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Posted - 2006.04.30 02:26:00 -
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Sounds made up to me.....i mean really in the same ward just happened to be the sister to the one and just happened to be the one to talk to this kid....Stretching things a bit there
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Posted - 2006.04.30 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren
Edited by: Kurren on 27/04/2006 20:02:50
Originally by: Benedictus Setaro
Originally by: Kurren
Edited by: Kurren on 27/04/2006 19:40:55
That's not funny... Maybe if it were somebody older, but it was just a kid. This kid attacked his family because of a video game... do you realize just what kind of reprocutions that's going to have on the video game industry?
Correction, he attacked his family because he was a psycho, not because he played games.
Yes, but if the story is true... this kid is only psycho when WoW comes into the picture. He's completely normal otherwise, but the mentioning of a player's name sets him off. It will be construed to "video games' fault" despite what you say. It's not even the kid's fault really... I would blame the parents. He's 11 playing a game that allows killing. But, despite what you or I think, if this story is true it will be blamed on video games.
edit - unless the world has become more intelligent and self-responsible... fat chance of that though...
Iv been playing Diablo since i was seven or so, Im completely normal and have never been arrested nor ever hit anyone without it being a retaliation (I.E they hit me first or directly attacked a friend)
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Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote.. 
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Posted - 2006.04.30 09:41:00 -
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"Iv been playing Diablo since i was seven or so, Im completely normal and have never been arrested nor ever hit anyone without it being a retaliation (I.E they hit me first or directly attacked a friend)"
To that effect, how many kids do you see walking around reenacting scenes involving 'a wodden plank with a nail through it' ;)
I have tho wholly disaggree with the post saying that a child (child referring to anyone 'not of the age of majority') should not be able to be given a label. Sure a child might in most cases, as is normal for their brain development, not have the same emotional 'box' as an adult, but the adverse is also true. However, things that make a child completely freak out and *take weapons* to someone, are not based on an 'emotional box' that you associate with adults. They're based on either tought behaviour, chemical imbalance thinger majigers in the brain, or plain good old fashion mental instability issues.
I also have a bad temper. I extremely easily get frustrated in arguments and lose myself verbally, but on a non 'violent' method. I'll start stuttering, dyslexifying everything I say (as I'm somewhat dyslexic - there are forms, don't bother questioning it :P) and dropping words enough to drop entire sentences.
I do not however start throwing things around, beat my sister, beat my dogs, physically assault my mother with a knife, or go on any other form of rampant sprees of violence. Neither do any of my friends. I've met only one person who is mentally unstable, that has threatened me with a knife until his brother and friends got him off me. That kid has some issues, but I'm pretty sure a lot of them stem from him being able to get away with anything and having his mom not able to say a single bad word against it.
Someone I know from mIRC maintains that ANYONE CAN KILL OR PHYSICALLY HARM ANYONE - even a 3 year old. Think about that one ;P
*phew*
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Posted - 2006.04.30 09:45:00 -
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Reagrdless of the rights/ wrongs, the guy who is boasting about it and posting it on the net sounds like a right*****.
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Kiko Makro
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Posted - 2006.04.30 09:45:00 -
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Reagrdless of the rights/ wrongs, the guy who is boasting about it and posting it on the net sounds like a right*****.
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.04.30 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: SibSpi
Someone I know from mIRC maintains that ANYONE CAN KILL OR PHYSICALLY HARM ANYONE - even a 3 year old. Think about that one ;P
*phew*
Yeah I can get behind that, everybody has there breaking point. Well perhaps not quite that young but they may want to.
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Posted - 2006.04.30 16:53:00 -
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Haha, thats almost as funny as 'you stole my cloudsong'.
http://cloudsongwarcraft1.ytmnsfw.com/
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2006.04.30 19:11:00 -
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this is the best thing EVER!!!
Shinnen
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Posted - 2006.05.01 05:26:00 -
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Dont see why peope get mad when you die in WoW but you know...
This is no where near as good as TSRumble
EVE PvP is serious.
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Posted - 2006.05.01 06:03:00 -
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Yeah that really happened
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Posted - 2006.05.01 10:48:00 -
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http://csownssex.ytmnsfw.com/
From a point where games drive you to physical violence involving sharp objects, against your family, to a point where you'll tell your girlfriend to 'stfu' over the phone, when she wants you to come over for the nasty, while you're getting ready for a _counterstrike game_
Who here would give up sex for a counterstrike game, please raise your hand...
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Posted - 2006.05.01 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kurren on 01/05/2006 18:46:56
Originally by: Benglada
Originally by: Kurren
Edited by: Kurren on 27/04/2006 20:02:50
Originally by: Benedictus Setaro
Originally by: Kurren
Edited by: Kurren on 27/04/2006 19:40:55
That's not funny... Maybe if it were somebody older, but it was just a kid. This kid attacked his family because of a video game... do you realize just what kind of reprocutions that's going to have on the video game industry?
Correction, he attacked his family because he was a psycho, not because he played games.
Yes, but if the story is true... this kid is only psycho when WoW comes into the picture. He's completely normal otherwise, but the mentioning of a player's name sets him off. It will be construed to "video games' fault" despite what you say. It's not even the kid's fault really... I would blame the parents. He's 11 playing a game that allows killing. But, despite what you or I think, if this story is true it will be blamed on video games.
edit - unless the world has become more intelligent and self-responsible... fat chance of that though...
Iv been playing Diablo since i was seven or so, Im completely normal and have never been arrested nor ever hit anyone without it being a retaliation (I.E they hit me first or directly attacked a friend)
That's not my point at all. My point is that, no matter who is to blame, video games will feel the blunt end of it. That was my point.
I'm not an ******* because I play Eve, but people like to think that because Eve gave me the opportunity to pod them... that Eve is why I'm an *******.
And, as far as labeling a child as psycho and all that. You don't officially get a label, I believe, until around 16 to 18. When a child is admitted, they are troubled, but their minds have not developed yet. Therefore, diagnosing and treating a problem could very well make things worse at such a young age. They do do it, but it is something that is avoided when it comes to children. This I learned when majoring in Psychology.
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Posted - 2006.05.01 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 01/05/2006 20:54:18
Originally by: SibSpi
http://csownssex.ytmnsfw.com/
From a point where games drive you to physical violence involving sharp objects, against your family, to a point where you'll tell your girlfriend to 'stfu' over the phone, when she wants you to come over for the nasty, while you're getting ready for a _counterstrike game_
Who here would give up sex for a counterstrike game, please raise your hand...
Holy crap...I just heard him say "STFU"...not "Shut the **** up"...he actually said "stuhfoo"
Oh and what's "the roflcopter"?
Originally by: Kurren
And, as far as labeling a child as psycho and all that. You don't officially get a label, I believe, until around 16 to 18. When a child is admitted, they are troubled, but their minds have not developed yet. Therefore, diagnosing and treating a problem could very well make things worse at such a young age. They do do it, but it is something that is avoided when it comes to children. This I learned when majoring in Psychology.
You clearly didn't pay enough attention in class.
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.05.01 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren
Iv been playing Diablo since i was seven or so, Im completely normal and have never been arrested nor ever hit anyone without it being a retaliation (I.E they hit me first or directly attacked a friend)
That's not my point at all. My point is that, no matter who is to blame, video games will feel the blunt end of it. That was my point.
I'm not an ******* because I play Eve, but people like to think that because Eve gave me the opportunity to pod them... that Eve is why I'm an *******.
And, as far as labeling a child as psycho and all that. You don't officially get a label, I believe, until around 16 to 18. When a child is admitted, they are troubled, but their minds have not developed yet. Therefore, diagnosing and treating a problem could very well make things worse at such a young age. They do do it, but it is something that is avoided when it comes to children. This I learned when majoring in Psychology.
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Ah yes the they are nothing wrong with them can't label the poor little blighters they will grow out of it...
Its not nature or nuture its a combo of both for most people swayed more to one side or the other for some...
The ones that blame games for this crap are the ones generally refuse to even entertain the notion of the person being resonsable for your own actions "it was the nasty moves/games/god told me to do it"...
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Posted - 2006.05.01 23:13:00 -
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Eve is the only pay-to-play game I have... but after this I gotta pick up WoW 
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Posted - 2006.05.02 07:11:00 -
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Oh no, now i've done it!
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