And if a person is asking for isk to leave system they should be banned. That is just an autonomous way of plex-ing accounts. because in a way it is no different then maco mining and exploit. Giving advantage to one player over the other. since the person can not be scanned and has no risk. Worse is not playing the game and just begging people to pay for his account. BY automated and robotics means. These people don't respond to chat as they are not on their computer even as this is done

They already nerfed 24/7 cloakies.

Downtime.

Yes, now they are 24/6

Such nerf. So fail.

You might want to check your math before you retort like that.

23.5/7

You might want to check your math before you retort like that.

23.5/7

Yes, now they are 24/6

Such nerf. So fail.

You might want to check your math before you retort like that.

23.5/7

You're contradicting yourself by calling them afk cloaky campers.
If they're truly afk you have nothing to fear from them while you semi-afk your ratting carrier in your sanctums. In fact, you're probably AFK more and gaining more from it than the cloaky character. You set drones to agressive and go watch your japanese cartoons while your sentries tear aparts the red X's and fill your wallet.
In a righteous world the cloaky would gain a share from your bounty and you would have to pay him per hour while ratting.

This the right way to look at it.

I knew a system had an afk cloaky in it (I e-stalked the name...noticed while he had kills galore in USTZ not even a peep my timezone so i wagered he was USTZ and away when I played) . It scared away many people. Me..I was happy he was there. Good belt system all to myself to make some isk from.

OMG, someone actually using well known tools around the internet to see if someone is actually a threat or not, and not just blindly go by standings in local?!?!?!!

You're contradicting yourself by calling them afk cloaky campers.
If they're truly afk you have nothing to fear from them while you semi-afk your ratting carrier in your sanctums. In fact, you're probably AFK more and gaining more from it than the cloaky character. You set drones to agressive and go watch your japanese cartoons while your sentries tear aparts the red X's and fill your wallet.
In a righteous world the cloaky would gain a share from your bounty and you would have to pay him per hour while ratting.

It be nice if 24/7 cloaked ships could be scan-able with maxed skiils. A cloaked ship would need to move in between safe spots and be active. not autonomous just streaming a station as a bot.

FIX
if a ship stayed constant cloaked for 30 min its module would burn out and a cloaking module should uses isotopes as fuel based on the ship type

And if a person is asking for isk to leave system they should be banned. That is just an autonomous way of plex-ing accounts. because in a way it is no different then maco mining and exploit. Giving advantage to one player over the other. since the person can not be scanned and has no risk. Worse is not playing the game and just begging people to pay for his account. BY automated and robotics means. These people don't respond to chat as they are not on their computer even as this is done

Moral of the story, AFK miners and AFK ratters are EVIL!
the AFK cloaker is the HERO!

It's getting deep over here guys.

form of gameplay wich are not ending pvp confrontation should be baned from one specyfic reason. This is not a game - this is waste of time - time i payed for! So if someone want to be cloaky and safty it shold have no impact for anyone else. In normal games it is like that - so eve just nor normal, not for normal people

The only way I could accept being able to scan down a cloaked ship would be with a specialized destroyer fitted with some module allowing for quantum scanning or something equally bogus science. This would *only* be able to detect responses from an active cloaked ship though (one moving) NOT AFK or still. This would allow for a co-ordinated group hunting cloaked ships much like WWII subs were hunted but also they wouldn't be able to find a silent cloaked ship again int he same way as sub hunting

The whole sub hunting method would become a game in itself to prevent hot-drops etc but I have no problem with AFK anything myself. AFK cloaked has no risk but are doing nothing so fair enough, AFK mining/ratting leaves the player open to being hunted and killed aso again fair enough

It be nice if 24/7 cloaked ships could be scan-able with maxed skiils. A cloaked ship would need to move in between safe spots and be active. not autonomous just streaming a station as a bot.

FIX
if a ship stayed constant cloaked for 30 min its module would burn out and a cloaking module should uses isotopes as fuel based on the ship type

And if a person is asking for isk to leave system they should be banned. That is just an autonomous way of plex-ing accounts. because in a way it is no different then maco mining and exploit. Giving advantage to one player over the other. since the person can not be scanned and has no risk. Worse is not playing the game and just begging people to pay for his account. BY automated and robotics means. These people don't respond to chat as they are not on their computer even as this is done

I had a similar idea.

AFK campers have an impact on the game as they present an unknown threat. They can be fit with a Cyno and execute drops.

I am in favor of a sub-hunting/afk ship hunting aspect of the game. I proposed a special class of destroyer fit with a probe that could decloak a ship, using a modified scanner probe technique. To keep it balanced, it should be visible on d-scan or in the overview and should have a long activation time. (1-5 mins) "The particles emitted by the probe overload the cloak, and shut it down temporarily." Once the ship is decloaked it still has to be probed down using combat scanner probes (unless its parked next to a celestial and is on grid), before it can be located and potentially destroyed.

This can potentially create hunter killer teams. Declaoker, a Scan ship and DPS, to hunt down claoked ships. I love the idea and think it creates more interaction between players and gives the "renter/farmers" a means to fight back