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Kenshinkan Beyer
AFK-corp
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:30:00 -
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Hi again.
I have gotten great advice here before and have set up my 2 man man/sci/trading business to make some ok isk.
Now i need some guidance in regarding pve.
Me and my buddy get a day a week free from kids etc, so we have 4-5 hours where we can concentrate on the fun side of EVE.
But as we are new to the game its quite hard to make a plan we can follow.
We want to do some pve but what or where, are there anything where we could benefit from being 2, it sound like we should aim for lvl4 missions but they also sound like they can be soloed quite easy.
I would like to hear about the possibilities, then we can talk the specifics later :)
Hope to get some good ideas:)
Kenshinkan |
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:57:00 -
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Kenshinkan Beyer wrote:Hi again.
I have gotten great advice here before and have set up my 2 man man/sci/trading business to make some ok isk.
Now i need some guidance in regarding pve.
Me and my buddy get a day a week free from kids etc, so we have 4-5 hours where we can concentrate on the fun side of EVE.
But as we are new to the game its quite hard to make a plan we can follow.
We want to do some pve but what or where, are there anything where we could benefit from being 2, it sound like we should aim for lvl4 missions but they also sound like they can be soloed quite easy.
I would like to hear about the possibilities, then we can talk the specifics later :)
Hope to get some good ideas:)
Kenshinkan
Wormhole anoms are good place for two persons (accounts). Nullsec anoms are also possible but you have to join some nullsec alliance. |
SomethingIs InMyButt
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:15:00 -
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Oska Rus wrote:
Wormhole anoms are good place for two persons (accounts). Nullsec anoms are also possible but you have to join some nullsec alliance.
maybe a pair of nestors? they would put quite a bit of tank on the table.
or domis.
but nestors are pirate. |
Naya Sky
Serra Industries
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:31:00 -
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What kind of skills do you have and what ships can you fly? Generally if you only have one day per week of free time to do some PVE I would say L4 missions are quite nice since you can just jump straight to them and you wont lose time scanning down the wormholes.
L4 missions:
+ you can do them whenever you want, just log on and start
+ steady and predictable income
- they do get repetitive and boring (although if you have a mission buddy and someone to chat with it can be quite relaxing)
Wormholes:
+ potential to earn more money than L4 missions (but the income is more unpredictable)
+ more fun than doing missions
- you lose time scanning them (and not every wormhole you find is appropriate and 'safe')
- you will lose ships and get killed eventually so be prepared for that and don't fly expensive ships
Null is also an option. But if the only reason to join an alliance is to run some anomalies on a Saturday night you are losing out on the whole experience. |
Kenshinkan Beyer
AFK-corp
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Posted - 2014.03.19 12:13:00 -
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Well i can only fly smaller ships, got most skills in gallente so far, we have only played almost 2 months. What we are looking for is suggesations on what to do so we can plan our skillplan accordenly,
I dont expect to be able to do highlvl stuff for a while, i just like the idea of knowing what we are going for as we dont have the time to explore all EVE's aspects.
BTW i like the pro/cons list :) |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:17:00 -
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Kenshinkan Beyer wrote:Well i can only fly smaller ships, got most skills in gallente so far, we have only played almost 2 months. What we are looking for is suggesations on what to do so we can plan our skillplan accordenly,
I dont expect to be able to do highlvl stuff for a while, i just like the idea of knowing what we are going for as we dont have the time to explore all EVE's aspects.
BTW i like the pro/cons list :)
I think I started soloing level 4s with the myrmidon by the time I had 2 mil SP (bearing in mind that was so long ago the myrmidon didn't even have bandwidth and could field 5 heavy drones). With the 2 of you there, you should be able to kill any scrambling frigates pretty quick to be able to get out.
I'd just go do level 4s, with both of you in whichever racial BCs you like that have either a utility slot for an RR or an unbonused highslot (myrm / prophecy are examples of the latter), that doesn't really hamstring the ship if it has a remote rep and then you can run a local tank which you turn your rep off when you aren't getting shot, and rep your friend with the capacitor that is now spare.
Agro won't switch too much, but its all good practice if you later decide to do level 5s or wormholes, and with the 2 of you in there, and with neither of you needing dual local reps, you should both have at least 2 damage mods, and 2 applied damage mods or prop and collectively if you both focus fire (mark targets with the UI) on the same NPCs they should break pretty quick.
Whilst its just the 2 of you, you both don't even need to be the same race, type or even tank type. (ie you can shield xfer to a shield friend with an armor ship and vice versa). that is of course terrible when you have 3 ships but doesn't cause a problem for a duo.
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Leah-Ayrn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:39:00 -
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I would look into a lower class WH if I were you guys. 2 ships can easily do the lower stuff, can also get your feet wet with PvP and might find you enjoy that even more. Plus the loot, salvage, PI from the wormhole will match up with the aft-mentioned Indy stuff you said you have.
Of course while training you can do other things, day tripping into holes, HS/LS exploration. Or worse comes to worse run some lv3 or 4s to build some isk for the WH.
If you go the wormhole route I would sugguest a 3rd account, or an alt on each main account. Set it up for either the main scanning character or a pure salvager in a destroyer. log it in as needed. Keeps you from gimping your combat ships trying to do it all. |
Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2289
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Posted - 2014.03.19 15:16:00 -
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go set up a hobo tower in npc nullsec where there's no stations. 
as for wormholes, there's soloable content as well as stuff you can team up for. Limited playtime makes day-tripping unattractive however. I would suggest taking one weekend to find a nice system, set up a small tower with a week or two of fuel, and see if its fun. You can pull it off without risking too much isk either. If you like it you can get a bigger tower and bring in more varieties of ships.
You can always do level 4 missions with stuff like double machs too. Either blitz sisters stuff, work on getting epic arc standings (which are good to tag-team as well), or work on cosmos stuff.
Or take a pair of ceptors and go run the nullsec epic arcs.
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Kenshinkan Beyer
AFK-corp
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:03:00 -
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All good ideas i will look into.
i like to read alot about other peopels setups to get some inspiration, but i find it very hard to find any one with experience in 2 man mission running. Is it not as neccesary as in other mmog's where you need different roles. It sounds like its best to just take the 2 ships with hihgest damage and go crazy or am i missing something?
kenshinkan |
Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2307
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:10:00 -
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Kenshinkan Beyer wrote:All good ideas i will look into.
i like to read alot about other peopels setups to get some inspiration, but i find it very hard to find any one with experience in 2 man mission running. Is it not as neccesary as in other mmog's where you need different roles. It sounds like its best to just take the 2 ships with hihgest damage and go crazy or am i missing something?
kenshinkan
If you have high skills then yes. That's why i suggested two machs, you leverage their speed, their high dps, their high base hp, and the ability to burst tank rather well for a short period of time, and with two of them you'll just plow through npcs before ever needing to boost.
"CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
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Naya Sky
Serra Industries
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:39:00 -
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As a long term goal sure they can aim for Machariels - but they said they are only two months old. Where will they get the money to buy two Machariels. Let alone have the skills to fly them (two months is what, a little over 2M SP?).
Kenshinkan Beyer wrote:All good ideas i will look into.
i like to read alot about other peopels setups to get some inspiration, but i find it very hard to find any one with experience in 2 man mission running. Is it not as neccesary as in other mmog's where you need different roles. It sounds like its best to just take the 2 ships with hihgest damage and go crazy or am i missing something?
kenshinkan
Level 4 missions are easy but only if you have good skills and a proper ship. But L4s can be quite challenging if you are flying with very little skill points - the incoming damage is very high on certain missions.
Tauranon gave you the best advice so far. Battlecruisers are a great way to start and the two of you can remote repair each other as needed (in addition to your local tanks). And as you get more and more SP you can upgrade to battleships.
In case you don't know about this site - you should check it out. It's very useful and it has a database of all missions. |
Cage Man
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Posted - 2014.03.20 23:19:00 -
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Kenshinkan Beyer wrote:All good ideas i will look into.
i like to read alot about other peopels setups to get some inspiration, but i find it very hard to find any one with experience in 2 man mission running. Is it not as neccesary as in other mmog's where you need different roles. It sounds like its best to just take the 2 ships with hihgest damage and go crazy or am i missing something?
kenshinkan
That's pretty much it., go crazy. Even if lvl4's can be solo'd doesn't make it more fun to do. Just burn through some missions, drop MTU's as you go, bookmark them, then after a few split up and go salvage.
Do you both fly the same ships ? do you prefer drones to guns to missiles ? any ship with any weapon system will work, its what you prefer, ie drones need to looked after as they get shot and sentry's make you immobile.
The thick plottens...
CCP, When can my crane get its black paint job back?? |
Cryo Kool
Serenity Valley Mining and Exploration
The NME Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.21 04:45:00 -
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There are some benefits to running missions even if you could solo them. At 2 months old it is unlikely you can do it alone though. You mentioned business/trading. Haveing a high standing with the npc corp that owns the station you are in does a few things. 1) It lowers your fees on market trades. It is a small amount but adds up over time. 2) At a standing of 6.67 the station owner takes 0% of whatever you reprocess. This is normally 5% regardless of your skills in processing the item/ore. 3) At standings of 8.0 and higher you can install a jump clone in their highsec stations. Not all npc corp stations offer medical services in their stations so make sure they do beforehand. Emperor family in amarr space do; they also own the station everyone trades from in amarr system. Caldari Navy in caldari space also offers medical services and they own the trading station in jita. Jumpclones allow you to transfer to a whole new body complete with different set of implants, without destroying the body you are in. Typically you can jump between bodies every 24 hrs but can be reduced to 19 via skill. This would be great for doing risky stuff on your weekend while being in a clone more suited to faster skill training times during the week. You also won't need to fly back and forth so much, provided there is some place to dock. I am sure others can add to the list but don't let people talk you out of running some missions because it 'isn't manly enough'. There are some long term benefits to be had regardless of what you would like to do in eve. |
Kenshinkan Beyer
AFK-corp
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Posted - 2014.03.21 12:48:00 -
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We will defenetly run missions for faction standing, both for the smaller trading fees, jumpclone and setting up a POS in a hisec system.
We got 5 accounts between us atm so we are going to specialise each one, surveor/salvager for WH sounds intriguing.
I think i will go for a drone boat, while my buddy got a fondness for cruise missiles atm :) |
Ruareve
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.21 20:32:00 -
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I've done both WH's and Lvl 4's and of the two I prefer Lvl 4's for PVE. WH's have a lot of challenges that need to be overcome and in the end there is always the threat of someone tracking you down which I think is just a hassle to avoid.
As far as Lvl 4's are concerned a couple of Myrm's should be able to get you started while you figure out the ins and outs. Myrms can be heavily tanked and the drones offer plenty of firepower.
This site tells you pretty much all you need to know about lvl 4 missions. It also has the other levels as well if you need.
This site can help you with picking a fit for your ships specific to mission running.
Yet another blog about Eve- http://ruar-eve.blogspot.com/ |
Bunnie Hop
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
449
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Posted - 2014.03.21 20:36:00 -
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I think doing level 4s to earn isk and gain standings (needed for a pos) is the best start. That will give you time to skill towards other ambitions. Once you can run 4's with ease and have the standings for your pos, then branch out into exploration-wormholes. |
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
302
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Posted - 2014.03.21 20:42:00 -
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Learn to spider tank Drakes.
Spider tank is using remote shield rep to help your buddy with tanking.
You will be able to do L4's earlier than most players and learn a good skill.
This will also allow you to do L3's solo until you are ready for L4's.
Once you get to the point where you are both in decent skilled/fit battleships you can move on to other things easy. |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
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Posted - 2014.03.21 20:46:00 -
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You don't have to have one thing... But if I were going to name a few activities:
1. Lowsec PVP
2. WH daytripping
3. Missions. You could always work towards getting into incursions. |
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