they did change the price of subs about a year ago or something ... announced at a fanfest for UK from -ú14 to -ú9.99 as it is now and you had to unsub in order to get the new price .... is this what you are talking about?

For casual players its a serious deterrent.

2) Why can a new trial account subscribe for $10 a month - indefinitely, but an old player trying to subscribe in the same hour on the same day is asked to pony up $14,95 for their subscription?

they did change the price of subs about a year ago or something ... announced at a fanfest for UK from -ú14 to -ú9.99 as it is now and you had to unsub in order to get the new price .... is this what you are talking about?

You could try not getting podded. But yeah, it can get steep, especially if you like to hang out in bubbles or wormholes.



Explain further.

2) A new subscription for my old account: $14,95/month. (after much checking on the internet and trying various links to CCP's subscription page, I could not locate any form of discount for this account, while the new account was automatically offered the $10 price)

You could try not getting podded. But yeah, it can get steep, especially if you like to hang out in bubbles or wormholes.

Are you sure it's not the promo price for the winter sale? I'm looking at the buy a new account and seeing the discounted prices (starting at 10$) for up to a year.

It's kind of like that nice gentleman on the corner of the street that's only there when its dark.
First one's free. Then you get it cheap from him. When you're hooked, the price increases because you have no choice.

LOL nicely put!

Good thing when you're not hooked ^^

I've already swapped info for communicating with the friends I ran into outside of EVE and meet up in Limit Theory and Star Citizen's DFM.
Sci-fi freaks all ;-)

I think the real question here is:

Why is this posted in the Features & Ideas Discussion board? If you have a problem with CCP, there are channels for this.

If you just want to cry about the way things are, maybe you should just contract your crap to me and go play My Little Pony Online.

there is nothing wrong with the cost of clones... if you're struggling to pay for the cost of a new clone on a regular basis then stop getting podded and how you get podded in high sec while running missions i don't know. When your ship explodes if you press the warp button after clicking on a celestial then it's pretty much impossible to lose a pod in high sec since they warp faster than everything locks (sitting around and waiting to die means it's your own fault)

If you've been war decced, that doesn't apply.. A session change timer initiates at the point you get podded. So there is a period your pod just sits there and you will lose any implants and have to pay for med clone again to preserve to SP.
I can see how that would suck too. But I guess you could opt out of working with big corps or alliances that are permanently war decced. But that takes away from the benefit of having that much SP and cool ships to fly. So yeah... CCP shitting on long-term loyal players does seem daft.

If you just want to cry about the way things are, maybe you should just contract your crap to me and go play My Little Pony Online.

there is nothing wrong with the cost of clones... if you're struggling to pay for the cost of a new clone on a regular basis then stop getting podded and how you get podded in high sec while running missions i don't know. When your ship explodes if you press the warp button after clicking on a celestial then it's pretty much impossible to lose a pod in high sec since they warp faster than everything locks (sitting around and waiting to die means it's your own fault)

Or you could just...you know...warp.

Unless you have an unfortunate incident with a smartbombing something, there is NEVER a reason to lose your pod in highsec or lowsec.

As you are about to die, just click on a celestial, them mouseover to the warp button on your selected items screen and hammer it.

Ship dies. boom. Pod Ejects. Pod warps. You cannot be tackled unless you go through the right click menu like an idiot or there are smarties/bubbles involved.

You would be right if there weren't those pesky details of systems getting bogged down in fleet battles, lag and other glitches CCP can't find in their logs later.

Its true, I don't loose clones in the situations you describe.

But there are a lot of circumstances you aren't mentioning. Ever present gate camps being just one of them...

A competent small pvp gang won't miss a pod either, unless they're busy with too many other targets, so if CCP's server lag didn't get your pod by default, they will, unless they're amateurs.

there is nothing wrong with the cost of clones.

What he's saying quite clearly is that you can't lose a pod in high/lowsec short of one of three ways...

However, I do agree with you that clone pricing needs to be made more gradual and overall lower than it currently is for high SP characters, as even 200m sp characters can enjoy a T1 frig roam in nullsec.

1) If you've paid CCP their subscription money for a long time, invariably, you start getting a lot of skill points. The cost of high skill point clones eventually starts to make it counter productive to fly fun, small ships like T2 frigates, unless you spent your 10 years on becoming very rich. For casual players its a serious deterrent.

So, with all the understandable benefits for new players, I think old players could use a serious flattening of the clone price curve.

If you've been war decced, that doesn't apply.. A session change timer initiates at the point you get podded. So there is a period your pod just sits there and you will lose any implants and have to pay for med clone again to preserve to SP.
I can see how that would suck too. But I guess you could opt out of working with big corps or alliances that are permanently war decced. But that takes away from the benefit of having that much SP and cool ships to fly. So yeah... CCP shitting on long-term loyal players does seem daft.

Yeah my clone is current 54m isk or something like that, I don't have time for foolish fc that want to take frigs out to a 200 man system to attack a t3 on a gate

Of course, we could do something else: base the clone price on how much money the player actually has, but that would be like socialism, wouldn't it?

Am I missing something? I would have thought that by the time a clone costs you 54 mil you should probably be able to earn enough isk to plex let alone cover the clone cost???

Am I missing something? I would have thought that by the time a clone costs you 54 mil you should probably be able to earn enough isk to plex let alone cover the clone cost???