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Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.28 09:37:00 -
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How many alts do you have Erotice? sick |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4840
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:07:00 -
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I have approximately 50 characters across 23 or so accounts. None of my alts have posted recently in forum.
Would you like a list? See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
SKINE DMZ
S U P R E M E - M A T H E M A T I C S A Band Apart.
353
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:14:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I think you may cross the line if you use TeamSpeak.
TeamSpeak is this gray area (yes, sorry, I know you don't like gray areas) where the community just cant seem to make up its minds on whether a third party program with no affiliation to CCP is covered under the Eve Online ToS or the EULA.
As for the songs, you will have to ask yourself "will this person be affected mentally by singing?". Perhaps the person had a bad childhood memory about singing, and by having him/her sing, youll anger him or her. If there is any kind of learning disability or impediment to his or her speech, making them sing might be considered cruel!
If your mark were to start hurling racial slurs at you, screaming, abusing household furniture or even if he were to speak to his or her spouse sternly because of the menial tasks you were asking, you will have crossed the line. Even if you are calm and haven't broken any rules, you will have crossed the line. Im sorry, but personal responsibility will have nothing to do with it. You will be required to sit there and take it, and possibly reap all the punishment stemming from the tirade.
Remember also, that eventhough people will willingly hand you all of their stuff, that you are forcefully taking it from them. People willingly handing you their stuff, even in return for more stuff, will be considered a heinous act, possibly blackmail, definitely coercion, more than likely embezzlement, larceny, grand theft auto, mail fraud, and some other random things I just pointed to in this lawyer book I found at a garage sale.
Please take all of this into consideration before you run your scam. Id hate for someone with a vendetta against you to abuse the power he or she had, or the sway he or she may have over the masses to ruin your online career. Beautiful.. successful I'd say to be quite honest. I disagree |
Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:53:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:I have approximately 50 characters across 23 or so accounts. None of my alts have posted recently in forum.
Would you like a list?
please give me the list |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1626
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:02:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:I'm sorry to ask, but why don't you just stop after the guy gives you all his stuff? Isn't that the objective of scamming?
If you are asking about reading poetry then your objective is to humiliate and to debase the other person for what amounts to real life pocket change. Is that actually your goal?
/Fÿ¡
First the problem is knowing you have all the stuff. A lot of players have multiple accounts and it can take a bit to try to figure out whether you do in fact have all his stuff. I suspect a little social engineering would be required to get the player to reveal other accounts if there is no evidence in the API.
Secondly, I don't intended on keeping any of it. I seem to be able to make more isk than I can blow up from my PVP and PVE activities. I'd just like to ransom them a bit in the tradition of Eve and then give it all back. Maybe do it as some sort of object lesson about how you shouldn't fall for that sort of scam. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
360
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:17:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:I have approximately 50 characters across 23 or so accounts. None of my alts have posted recently in forum.
Would you like a list?
Still here? Shame... |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1626
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:18:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: This pretty much.
Grey line. Drawn in water. If a substantial part of the community or CCP thinks you overstepped it, then too bad.
Scams IRL aren't "legit" either. There are no "legal" scams.
You just need to do it in a way that you can get away with it.
Its an oxymoron to ask "how can I legally scam?", if you get my meaning.
This is a video game with rules like any other game like Monopoly or The Danger Game. CCP defines the rules, but the community can also come up with rules and attempt to enforce them as well. In this game scamming is within the rules given by CCP. I've read around a bit and it seems even Anslo doesn't think scamming should go away. I know what CCP's rules regarding scamming are. Now I'm attempting to find out what those who (a) represent the victim pool and (b) don't want scamming itself banned think those rules should be. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
746
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:26:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:I have approximately 50 characters across 23 or so accounts. None of my alts have posted recently in forum.
Would you like a list? Still here? Shame... Luminous, for your previous heresies against HTFU three innocents have already perished in your stead. When will you recant?
Doesn't the fact you willfully continue your heresy against HTFU show that your concern for the weak and infirm is contrived, and you truly dont give a flying frack about other players? As surely if you did, you wouldn't keep sacrificing them on our altar with continued heresies and just STFU?
YOU are causing these deaths Luminous, we are just Gods instrument. We are adding another +1 to the Kill-It-Forward queue for your insulting an ambassador of HTFU.
F Would you like to know more? |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
Cataclysmic Paradox
185
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:44:00 -
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Apparently that other thread REALLY bunt me out..... I agree with the outcome, but I may be bitter and negative for the next few days. Don't take any offense OP.
Inner Delta thinks you're a cool dude.
Outer Delta thinks you're 1/10 Troll who's clogging the first page of GD and you should biomass into a collapsing wormhole
Fly safe. |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
Cataclysmic Paradox
185
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:45:00 -
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Damn Double Posts |
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
1139
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:22:00 -
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Just create lots of alts, that you can have fall for your scam, so you can chest beat in local "I'm a successful scammer!" Game won....?
CCP: "We know what's best for the game, so you can't have any options....." |
Sibyyl
346
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:26:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:A lot of players have multiple accounts and it can take a bit to try to figure out whether you do in fact have all his stuff. ... I'd just like to ransom them a bit in the tradition of Eve and then give it all back. Maybe do it as some sort of object lesson about how you shouldn't fall for that sort of scam. Your motives are interesting, and your goals do sound more along the lines of scamming, or meta-scamming. It probably sounds silly, but the "morally grey" side of EVE is a fascinating thing to watch for an IRL square like me.
/Fÿ¡ Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
360
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:27:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:I have approximately 50 characters across 23 or so accounts. None of my alts have posted recently in forum.
Would you like a list? Still here? Shame... Luminous, for your previous heresies against HTFU three innocents have already perished in your stead. When will you recant? Doesn't the fact you willfully continue your heresy against HTFU show that your concern for the weak and infirm is contrived, and you truly dont give a flying frack about other players? As surely if you did, you wouldn't keep sacrificing them on our altar with continued heresies and just STFU? YOU are causing these deaths Luminous, we are just Gods instrument. We are adding another +1 to the Kill-It-Forward queue for your insulting an ambassador of HTFU. F
You fly a sacrilige? Cheap-ass nobody...
Get a deadspace-fit T3 like normal people, then we will talk.
Oops, but you might get ganked by your own buddies in niarja :)) |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1627
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:17:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Just create lots of alts, that you can have fall for your scam, so you can chest beat in local "I'm a successful scammer!" Game won....?
I'm not sure what problem you are trying to solve. But it doesn't appear to be the one the thread is about. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Oshia Launay
Galactic Fringe Inc
1
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:47:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Malcolm, clearly the line is that if your mark rages and starts to throw death threats at you, displays unacceptable racial behaviour and is generally abusive, that's your fault.
Clearly the line is that humiliating someone for sadistic entertainment until he breaks down is not ok, but let's blame the victim or even pretend the perpetrator is the victim. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1400
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:15:00 -
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I would advice you to learn Ero story.
Ero is long time scammer. He did it for quite long time.
What was before bonus room? Lots of other scams which didn't 'cross the line'. Look here. The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1061
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Posted - 2014.03.29 00:26:00 -
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As you have freely and willingly given me every reason to lock this thread, I have hereby scammed you all out of it. And I'm such a bastard that I'm not giving it back either...
Thread locked.
The rules: 16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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