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Ross Sylibus	Posted - 2006.05.04 08:48:00 - [1] prises are getting stupid
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.04 08:50:00 - [2] Originally by: Ross Sylibus prises are getting stupid no ****
Nukeitall	Posted - 2006.05.04 08:51:00 - [3] I've been hearing that some people are getting new BPOs...so.. Maybe?
Delezar	Posted - 2006.05.04 08:56:00 - [4] The main problem with new bpo's is that the current owners will have more then enough isk to just buy the new ones. It is highly unlikely that a player who would actually build these ships gets a bpo due to the 'however you want to call it' lottery system. Just releasing more bpo's would not really help. Besides, when you want a decent ship, pay for it, if you cannot afford it, fly a decent fitted bs. Delezar
R3dSh1ft	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:04:00 - [5] ship 300% above its manufacturing cost? i mean seriously wtf... ______________________________________
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:12:00 - [6] Edited by: Sarmaul on 04/05/2006 09:12:39 Originally by: Delezar The main problem with new bpo's is that the current owners will have more then enough isk to just buy the new ones. It is highly unlikely that a player who would actually build these ships gets a bpo due to the 'however you want to call it' lottery system. Just releasing more bpo's would not really help. Besides, when you want a decent ship, pay for it, if you cannot afford it, fly a decent fitted bs. Delezar then you release LOTS of blueprints. some people seem to think (not aimed at you btw) that if a hac ship supply is even marginally greater than the demand then it's not fair to the HAC producers. *******s tbh
Espen	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:15:00 - [7] yes, please for the love of god.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:17:00 - [8] There are still a few T2 cruiser and battlecruiser BPO in the queues. I want one of the HAC, recon or command ship BPO too! And the prices aren't stupid. The prices tripled, the number of pilots quadrupled. The amount of Isk you can get in Nulsec are insane compared to high/lowsec. I wonder when we hit the point where the moons are the limiting boarder to T2 manufacturing. Right now you have to haul the stuff needed for T2 component building all over the cluster. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Stamm	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:23:00 - [9] The solution that CCP are rumoured to be doing is perfect. If people can research up a BPC then you can guarantee that they will research the ones with the highest profit margin, which will reduce the profitability of those items. They won't research Tracking Disruptor IIs they'll research Hulks and Zealots.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:27:00 - [10] What are the people going to do without the needed components? Install half a dozen or more POS in Nulsec just for building two-five HAC? --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:28:00 - [11] Firstly, it's not about being fair or unfair to current tech2 producers. Sure, that should play a role, but it's not decisive. What's decisive is that CCP DO NOT WANT tech2 to be common like tech1. Secondly, the poster above me is right. HAC's specifically have turned into an icon that embodies the difference between high sec and low sec isk. It takes me one evening to earn myself a new HAC if I try a bit. At market value of say 150 million that is. Why would I be bothered by the price ? I can imagine someone that needs two weeks to make that isk is, but what's that got to do with me ? There's tech1 for those people. Now, that sounds somewhat wrong and disturbing, but it's true and right in the context of Eve. Power to the players !
Alessandra Grey	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:30:00 - [12] In addition to just releasing the T2 ship BPOs to drop prices, what about all of the T2 equipment that hasnt even been seeded AT ALL yet (such as Shield Power Relay II's)? It'd be nice to actually fully outfit a ship with T2 equipment if you can afford it. _______________________ ...Greetings, Starfighter. You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the frontier against Xur and the Kodan Armada...
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:32:00 - [13] Originally by: Stamm The solution that CCP are rumoured to be doing is perfect. If people can research up a BPC Let's squash that rumour then. You won't be able to engineer a bpc into a bpo, take it from me. One of the key elements of tech2 distribution always has been and most likely always will be that CCP has direct control over the amount of tech BP-runs or bpo's in circulation. So, expect something like new research missions where you can get an offer that allows you to reverse engineer a tech1 bpc into a tech2 bpc, but not a tech1 bpo into a tech2 bpo or tech2 bpc into tech2 bpo. That would drop the bottom out of the market and that is just not going to happen. Power to the players !
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:43:00 - [14] Originally by: Rod Blaine Sure, that should play a role, but it's not decisive. What's decisive is that CCP DO NOT WANT tech2 to be common like tech1. Given that they released ... 8, was it? ... HAC blueprints for each ship, when the player base was an awful lot less than it is now, it's equally clear that they DO NOT WANT it to be as rare as it is now. If the playerbase has trebled, the number of HAC blueprints should have trebled just to keep the supply level where CCP wanted it to be. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Tachy	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:47:00 - [15] Oveur already stated that there'll be more of some BPO. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:50:00 - [16] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 04/05/2006 09:51:46 Original release: 8 Current level: 20 (? or is that not ships, only mods ?) Problem: 4 Now, I know that's not what you meant is it ? But the fact that there's way too little production hitting the markets at this time doesn't mean a) that it isn't there and b) that CCP should just throw in free bpo's for the masses and yank the bottom from under the market for tech2. Right ? I mean, all these people whining that tech2 bpo's should be pruchaseable from NPC's or whorable from missions or whatever with guaranteed success don't really think about what it means do they ? It means that they are asking CCP to nerf the meaning of the economy in this game to a large extent, especially at a higher playing level. And that's simply not going to be happening is it ? Power to the players !
Chai N'Dorr	Posted - 2006.05.04 09:56:00 - [17] Originally by: R3dSh1ft ship 300% above its manufacturing cost? i mean seriously wtf... Then stop buying them... These threads are getting silly and are rehashed over and over again. Nothing that'll be said in here (including that what I type) hasn't been said and posted a dozen times over. _ Short Story: Planetside
Khatred	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:04:00 - [18] I wonder why nobody ever whines about logistic cruiser prices. _______________________________________________ Every time you whine a little HAC is destroyed. Please think of the little HACs
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:08:00 - [19] Originally by: R3dSh1ft ship 300% above its manufacturing cost? i mean seriously wtf... 300%? Try 800% and you're closer. More for poor Cerberus pilots. BPOs arent the answer, btw. BPCs are. Testy's Eve Blog!
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:10:00 - [20] Originally by: Testy Mctest Originally by: R3dSh1ft ship 300% above its manufacturing cost? i mean seriously wtf... 300%? Try 800% and you're closer. More for poor Cerberus pilots. BPOs arent the answer, btw. BPCs are. Maya Rkell has made some very good posts about why a BPC system cannot solve an undersupply problem permenantly. I'm not going to repost them. P.S. STOP POSTING THESE THREADS. I think Khatred should raise the price on his HACs by 5m for every thread like this. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Khatred	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Testy Mctest Originally by: R3dSh1ft ship 300% above its manufacturing cost? i mean seriously wtf... 300%? Try 800% and you're closer. More for poor Cerberus pilots. BPOs arent the answer, btw. BPCs are. Maya Rkell has made some very good posts about why a BPC system cannot solve an undersupply problem permenantly. I'm not going to repost them. P.S. STOP POSTING THESE THREADS. I think Khatred should raise the price on his HACs by 5m for every thread like this. Actualy when my "pokemon collection" would be complete I think I'll stop selling HACs at all. Then you'll have reasons to whine. _______________________________________________ Every time you whine a little HAC is destroyed. Please think of the little HACs
Ross Sylibus	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:13:00 - [22] only ppl who dont mind the prises atm, is ones who have BPO or can get them at almost manufacturing prise
R3dSh1ft	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:13:00 - [23] Originally by: Rod Blaine Firstly, it's not about being fair or unfair to current tech2 producers. Sure, that should play a role, but it's not decisive. What's decisive is that CCP DO NOT WANT tech2 to be common like tech1. Secondly, the poster above me is right. HAC's specifically have turned into an icon that embodies the difference between high sec and low sec isk. It takes me one evening to earn myself a new HAC if I try a bit. At market value of say 150 million that is. Why would I be bothered by the price ? I can imagine someone that needs two weeks to make that isk is, but what's that got to do with me ? There's tech1 for those people. Now, that sounds somewhat wrong and disturbing, but it's true and right in the context of Eve. try 250m for a cerberus ______________________________________
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:14:00 - [24] Originally by: Ross Sylibus only ppl who dont mind the prises atm, is ones who have BPO or can get them at almost manufacturing prise I don't mind the prices because I can do without them just fine [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:15:00 - [25] of course, this wild speculation would be over in an instant if ccp remembered how to communicate and actually told us what their plan was...
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:16:00 - [26] Originally by: Sarmaul of course, this wild speculation would be over in an instant if ccp remembered how to communicate and actually told us what their plan was... But then we would have instead a bunch of whines by ignorant tools about how the plan sucks/is a conspiracy/etc. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:21:00 - [27] Originally by: Ross Sylibus only ppl who dont mind the prises atm, is ones who have BPO or can get them at almost manufacturing prise I dont mind them because I'm filthy stinking rich and have 6 fully faction fitted Vagabonds waiting to be used should I eventually lose one. Testy's Eve Blog!
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:22:00 - [28] IIRC, this is what CCP is doing about it: 1. Changing the "lottery" to something "better". No idea what or how. 2. Adding in Reverse Engineering. Get a T2 item, do research on it. Have a chance of getting a low grade BPC to manufacture on! (Low grade means slightly worse component requirements and time requirements than the original - and that doesn't mean ME/PE, it means the BASE mineral and time req. might be worse). Don't quote me on this, though. New sig coming soonÖ Drone musing (MC-boards)
Flyyn	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:48:00 - [29] Well if there were 10 more of each Hac BPO's released, you would just get that many more corps richer. You cant tell me that if you got one, you would sell at 15% above manufacture cost? Dont mind me I am just trying to catch up to DS and HK on the boards....
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.05.04 10:49:00 - [30] Originally by: Flyyn Well if there were 10 more of each Hac BPO's released, you would just get that many more corps richer. You cant tell me that if you got one, you would sell at 15% above manufacture cost? More supply = lower prices, period, except in the case of a cartel. And there is no HAC cartel. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.

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