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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3465
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Posted - 2014.04.04 15:01:00 -
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He also supposedly spoke to the Amarr, revealed his existence and set them to head out and Reclaim the rest of mankind on his behalf.
As opposed to just, you know... speaking to everybody and revealing his existence and Reclaiming them in person, which considering that he's attributed with creating the whole universe seems like it would be trivial - if God can do anything, then anything he's done once, he can do again as many times as necessary, right?
Amarr is not a religion that believes in a sane or practical god. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
152
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Posted - 2014.04.04 15:22:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:As opposed to just, you know... revealing himself to everybody and speaking to them and Reclaiming them in person, which considering that he's attributed with creating the whole universe seems like it would be trivial - if God can do anything, then anything he's done once, he can do again as many times as necessary, right?
God could do as you describe, but perhaps His current plan gives greater glory to Himself in the long run than merely snapping his fingers and making it so. I have repeatedly speculated that this is is why God has allowed the Minmatar Republic to rebel for a season GÇö so that God may make His glory and His power known by brutally, savagely crushing it at some point in the future. This is how God dealt with Molok the Deceiver GÇö He could have simply annihilated Molok a millisecond after He rebelled, but O how much more was God glorified in using Amash-Akura the way that He did. |

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
152
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Posted - 2014.04.04 15:24:00 -
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Scherezad wrote:I.... what? Hatred of.... what?
Where's the phenethylaminal...
Don't listen to them. Nipples are just a body part, created by God like other body parts. It is only when they are put to use in Pleasure Hubs that sin is committed.
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Foley Aberas Jones
35
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Posted - 2014.04.04 15:27:00 -
[94] - Quote
Nauplius wrote:Scherezad wrote:I.... what? Hatred of.... what?
Where's the phenethylaminal... Don't listen to them. Nipples are just a body part, created by God like other body parts. It is only when they are put to use in Pleasure Hubs that sin is committed. What if the "client" wants his "Employee" to pretend his a baby, so his "Employee" will breast feed him
I mean...thats normal use for nipples, breast feeding! |

Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3466
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Posted - 2014.04.04 15:31:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:Stitcher wrote:As opposed to just, you know... revealing himself to everybody and speaking to them and Reclaiming them in person, which considering that he's attributed with creating the whole universe seems like it would be trivial - if God can do anything, then anything he's done once, he can do again as many times as necessary, right? God could do as you describe, but perhaps His current plan gives greater glory to Himself in the long run than merely snapping his fingers and making it so. I have repeatedly speculated that this is is why God has allowed the Minmatar Republic to rebel for a season GÇö so that God may make His glory and His power known by brutally, savagely crushing it at some point in the future. This is how God dealt with Molok the Deceiver GÇö He could have simply annihilated Molok a millisecond after He rebelled, but O how much more was God glorified in using Amash-Akura the way that He did.
So, you're saying that God is a callous sadistic narcissist who prefers a convoluted and breathtakingly cruel approach that allows millions of people to suffer rather than an expedient and efficient one, because the former lets him metaphorically flex his muscles and pose for the camera drones?
Speaking as somebody who values substance over style, I'm not impressed. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Cassiopiae
Anakkiss
4
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:13:00 -
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Foley Aberas Jones wrote: What if the "client" wants his "Employee" to pretend his a baby, so his "Employee" will breast feed him
I mean...thats normal use for nipples, breast feeding!
You have a point. Mr Nauplius must remove himself from the notion that pleasure as transgression must be punished. Remove the taboo and he can rid himself of guilt and therefore GÇÿsinGÇÖ in the eyes of his God.
It would be most liberating.
Perhaps if he practiced some baby role-play he could safely explore the pleasure of nipple sucking without the taboo. He would be free to experiment his notions of sin without fear of his God by using a pacifier as a suitable substitute for a real nipple.
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
1635
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:16:00 -
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So let me see if I have this right Nauplius; an entire portion of humanity, us Matari, were created by your deity as nothing more than cannon fodder, to be used as living object lessons? We were brought into existence solely so you slavers could kill us?
Interesting. Well, if that's the case there's really no reason not to keep fighting your people and taking as many with me as possible since I'm "given to destruction" anyway, right? If I'm going to die anyway far better to do so on my own terms at a time of my choosing and to kill as many Amarr/Khanid/Ammatar as possible than to die gasping for air in a jettisoned cargo container.
Thanks for clarifying this for me! Next time I blow one of you slavers and/or Blooders from the skies I'll know that I was simply playing my part in your deity's grand plan.
Also, what Stitcher said about your twisted deity. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
973
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:30:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Nappy here has a peculiar hatred of nipples, and thinks that God does too. That's why. Mr. Verin, don't you think it doesn't give merit to discuss the person who started the discussion instead of his words? |

Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3468
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:30:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Also, what Stitcher said about your twisted deity.
I think Andreus got it right when he pointed out that these things reflect less on the deity and more on the people who claim to know that deity's motives and desires.
An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
153
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:37:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:So let me see if I have this right Nauplius; an entire portion of humanity, us Matari, were created by your deity as nothing more than cannon fodder, to be used as living object lessons? We were brought into existence solely so you slavers could kill us?
More or less, yes GÇö the Matari who do not accept the faith and become Chosen in accordance with the Apocryphon are not only given over to destruction, but predestined from the foundation of the world for destruction, and that predestination is not merely God's perfect foreknowledge of your rebellion, but God's very Will for you from the start. You reprobates were created to be destroyed, and your destruction glorifies God. God controls every single thing and does so to His own glory in the end. |

Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3470
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:40:00 -
[101] - Quote
...of course, I don't have the first idea what you call a case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder where the narcissism is subserviently projected onto a third party... An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
153
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:49:00 -
[102] - Quote
Anabella Rella wrote: Interesting. Well, if that's the case there's really no reason not to keep fighting your people and taking as many with me as possible since I'm "given to destruction" anyway, right? If I'm going to die anyway far better to do so on my own terms at a time of my choosing and to kill as many Amarr/Khanid/Ammatar as possible than to die gasping for air in a jettisoned cargo container.
All that said, you may still be among the Chosen in the end; man should not delve too deeply into predestination and the hidden will of God, but rather accept outward forms and demonstrations of faith. You are a vile sinner, but you might at some point in the future begin to redeem yourself by repenting of your ways and accepting the True Faith.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
973
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Posted - 2014.04.04 17:12:00 -
[103] - Quote
Nauplius wrote:Scherezad wrote:I.... what? Hatred of.... what?
Where's the phenethylaminal... Don't listen to them. Nipples are just a body part, created by God like other body parts. It is only when they are put to use in Pleasure Hubs that sin is committed. Mr. Nauplius, I can't imagine any scenario when anyone could commit a sin... with a nipple. Besides, as far as I can remember biology, you can put them at use only in 50% of human population and only if certain hormonal conditions are met. |

Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
4502
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Posted - 2014.04.04 18:39:00 -
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See, this is the thing about arguing with fanatics - and I can't say I'm not feeling at least a tiny bit smug about the fact that most of the Intergalactic Summit's Amarrian regulars are now having to face this fact from their own perspective. Religious fanatics aren't just assured of the veracity of their beliefs, they're unwilling to entertain even the possibility that they could be wrong. There are some - not all that many, but some - Amarrians who'll say "alright, it's beneficial for me not to go too far in the pursuit of my beliefs, because even though I strongly believe I'm right, but I could be wrong."
Fanatics, when confronted with evidence that reality may not conform to their expectations, instead accuse reality of being wrong. The facts are interpreted to support the conclusion. Here then, is the Provist who insists that every other Caldari in the State is a traitor rather than admit that the State rejected Tibus Heth. Here is the U-Nat who screams about the savagery of societies that don't embrace democracy but throws a tantrum when people elect someone he doesn't like. Here is the member of the 24th Crusade who brags about Amarrian manifest destiny when they're winning but it's "merely a test from God" when they're losing.
And here is the Sani Sabik who would rather be the slave of a cosmic being that uses trillions of sentient beings as toys for its own personal gratification than admit that maybe, just maybe the universe doesn't revolve around him. Mane 614
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Anabella Rella
Gradient
1639
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Posted - 2014.04.05 16:11:00 -
[105] - Quote
No thanks Naups, I'm good. I'd rather laugh with the sinners (and destroy as many lunatics like you as possible) than cry with the blood drinking saints. The sinners have much more fun.
 When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |

Ava Starfire
Gradient
1506
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:23:00 -
[106] - Quote
Nauplius wrote:Anabella Rella wrote: Interesting. Well, if that's the case there's really no reason not to keep fighting your people and taking as many with me as possible since I'm "given to destruction" anyway, right? If I'm going to die anyway far better to do so on my own terms at a time of my choosing and to kill as many Amarr/Khanid/Ammatar as possible than to die gasping for air in a jettisoned cargo container.
All that said, you may still be among the Chosen in the end; man should not delve too deeply into predestination and the hidden will of God, but rather accept outward forms and demonstrations of faith. You are a vile sinner, but you might at some point in the future begin to redeem yourself by repenting of your ways and accepting the True Faith.
You, on the other hand, will not escape the fate your God has in store for you. "There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception."
-Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North" |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
973
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:35:00 -
[107] - Quote
Ava Starfire wrote: You, on the other hand, will not escape the fate your God has in store for you.
Nobody will. Our fates are predetermined and our lives are just illusions. |

Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
875
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Posted - 2014.04.06 04:55:00 -
[108] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:Ava Starfire wrote: You, on the other hand, will not escape the fate your God has in store for you.
Nobody will. Our fates are predetermined and our lives are just illusions.
If you fate is predetermined and your life is an illusion, then what is the point of it all?
Under this, who or what determines your fate in the first place? Nothing Personal - Just Business...
Chaos Creates Content |

Cassiopiae
Anakkiss
4
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Posted - 2014.04.06 04:59:00 -
[109] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:Ava Starfire wrote: You, on the other hand, will not escape the fate your God has in store for you.
Nobody will. Our fates are predetermined and our lives are just illusions.
Illusions indeed. It reminds me of a minor contemporary Intaki poet who wrote:
Our play at an end. These our performers Our inner essence Whispered into air - The material of this concept - The great universe itself, All which it receives, Dissolves - And, the frail comedy faded, Leaves not a trace behind. We are stuff of dreams And our virtual lives Are rounded with sleep.
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Kale Silence
Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking
41
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Posted - 2014.04.06 07:05:00 -
[110] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:Nauplius wrote:Scherezad wrote:I.... what? Hatred of.... what?
Where's the phenethylaminal... Don't listen to them. Nipples are just a body part, created by God like other body parts. It is only when they are put to use in Pleasure Hubs that sin is committed. Mr. Nauplius, I can't imagine any scenario when anyone could commit a sin... with a nipple. Besides, as far as I can remember biology, you can put them at use only in 50% of human population and only if certain hormonal conditions are met.
Oh, I can think of a few ways  See Corp bio for business details
"Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care." - Anonymous |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
973
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Posted - 2014.04.07 05:00:00 -
[111] - Quote
Kale Silence wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Nauplius wrote:Scherezad wrote:I.... what? Hatred of.... what?
Where's the phenethylaminal... Don't listen to them. Nipples are just a body part, created by God like other body parts. It is only when they are put to use in Pleasure Hubs that sin is committed. Mr. Nauplius, I can't imagine any scenario when anyone could commit a sin... with a nipple. Besides, as far as I can remember biology, you can put them at use only in 50% of human population and only if certain hormonal conditions are met. Oh, I can think of a few ways  Like using surgery to implant some sort of guns into them? |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
973
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Posted - 2014.04.07 05:02:00 -
[112] - Quote
Arkady Vachon wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Ava Starfire wrote: You, on the other hand, will not escape the fate your God has in store for you.
Nobody will. Our fates are predetermined and our lives are just illusions. If you fate is predetermined and your life is an illusion, then what is the point of it all? Under this, who or what determines your fate in the first place? Maker? Creator? The universe itself? Who knows, human mind is too tiny to comprehend whole universe around us, all what happened and everything that will happen. |

Anyanka Funk
Neo-Sani
65
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Posted - 2014.04.07 06:11:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Kale Silence wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Nauplius wrote:Scherezad wrote:I.... what? Hatred of.... what?
Where's the phenethylaminal... Don't listen to them. Nipples are just a body part, created by God like other body parts. It is only when they are put to use in Pleasure Hubs that sin is committed. Mr. Nauplius, I can't imagine any scenario when anyone could commit a sin... with a nipple. Besides, as far as I can remember biology, you can put them at use only in 50% of human population and only if certain hormonal conditions are met. Oh, I can think of a few ways  Like using surgery to implant some sort of guns into them?
This. I'm sure Sansha have been working on creating this technology for years now! anyankafunk.tumblr.com |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
973
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Posted - 2014.04.07 07:06:00 -
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Don't you think it will damage your frontal clothes and armor? |

Anyanka Funk
Neo-Sani
65
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Posted - 2014.04.07 07:20:00 -
[115] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:Don't you think it will damage your frontal clothes and armor?
We are born naked and we die naked! anyankafunk.tumblr.com |

Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
875
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Posted - 2014.04.07 07:25:00 -
[116] - Quote
Anyanka Funk wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Don't you think it will damage your frontal clothes and armor? We are born naked and we die naked!
Depending which time you died, I am pretty sure I was wearing shorts when my original body got the euthanasia needle. Every other time, however, that's another story... I can only hope that my popsicled clone corpse mooned them as it floated by.
Nothing Personal - Just Business...
Chaos Creates Content |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
976
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Posted - 2014.04.07 07:59:00 -
[117] - Quote
Anyanka Funk wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Don't you think it will damage your frontal clothes and armor? We are born naked and we die naked! Negative. I ask technicians so they put panties on my clone before activating them.
Besides, we die in capsules. Capsule should be considered as clothes. |

Sanguina Dieudonne
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2014.04.07 09:03:00 -
[118] - Quote
I must admit that I am surprised that Kim wears panties. I would have thought it would be a titanium diborite chastity belt that was welded shut. |

Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
876
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Posted - 2014.04.07 09:16:00 -
[119] - Quote
Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:I must admit that I am surprised that Kim wears panties. I would have thought it would be a titanium diborite chastity belt that was welded shut.
That's one of many mental images I do not need. Nothing Personal - Just Business...
Chaos Creates Content |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
981
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Posted - 2014.04.07 10:46:00 -
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Sanguina Dieudonne wrote:I must admit that I am surprised that Kim wears panties. I would have thought it would be a titanium diborite chastity belt that was welded shut. There are no vital organs that need that sort of armor. Besides, keeping stuff like that welded shut is not hygienic. |
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