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![Nukeitall Nukeitall](/images/people/img3.png)
Nukeitall
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Posted - 2006.05.07 06:39:00 -
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I'm watching this from afar. As the title says, the prices on +5 implants are going down insanely fast. Part of me regrets not holding out a few months.
I wonder what's causing it. Very odd.
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![stingy CEO stingy CEO](/images/people/img1.png)
stingy CEO
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Posted - 2006.05.07 08:48:00 -
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Quote: I wonder what's causing it. Very odd.
farming.
the faction BS prices are also in freefall. fleet tempests have dropped 150 mil in the last week (and imho, should drop even more). This is, i think, mainly due to all richies selling theirs to get carriers/dreads.
------------------------------------------------ this is what omber zombie thinks about my ipo
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![Nathan Grey Nathan Grey](/images/people/img14.png)
Nathan Grey
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Posted - 2006.05.07 15:09:00 -
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It's the market stabilizing on its own. Since it *was* a limited demand-limited supply item, with a more limited supply than demand, prices were set high, by the sellers. Now that there's more of 'em dropping, the supply is going up, the price point is going down (supply-demand graph shifting: supply growth > demand growth), and people are asking why the price is going down.
More people have these implants that they don't want and are trying to sell them. Drop rates must've increased from almost zero. ----------------------------------
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![Heartseeker Heartseeker](/images/people/img4.png)
Heartseeker
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Posted - 2006.05.07 16:07:00 -
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Jump clones reduced demand, more players capitable of farming the implants increased supply.
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![Belsazzar Belsazzar](/images/people/img1.png)
Belsazzar
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Posted - 2006.05.07 16:20:00 -
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im looking for a +5 perception, whats a reasonable price now? Anyone know someone selling?
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![Nukeitall Nukeitall](/images/people/img14.png)
Nukeitall
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Posted - 2006.05.07 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Belsazzar im looking for a +5 perception, whats a reasonable price now? Anyone know someone selling?
Saw one at 400m(!) the other night on escrow.
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![Lord WarATron Lord WarATron](/images/people/img2.png)
Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.05.08 11:10:00 -
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Just a month or two ago, +5 Wilpowers were selling for a bil each. Now it is lucky to be half that. Even I am running a lottery for a +5 memory and very few people are buying tickets even for that!
I think the issue is that the rich have already bought their +5's and are leaving them in their jumpclone. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
![Sorethen Sorethen](/images/people/img6.png)
Sorethen
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Posted - 2006.05.08 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: Sorethen on 08/05/2006 12:05:01 Plus a lot of people are more interested in the pirate implants now I'm sure.
Don't +5's only come from mission running though? If so then their prices would go back up when people stopped accepting them as agent offers I'd think.
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![Altaree Altaree](/images/people/img16.png)
Altaree
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Posted - 2006.05.08 13:22:00 -
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Could the macrominers have learnt that because we can't seem them doing their missions it is much easier to mine isk using missions?
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![Argenton Sayvers Argenton Sayvers](/images/people/img16.png)
Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.05.08 14:15:00 -
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People who sell +5 Implants in large quantities also sell: 1 Shaquil Speed enhancer 1 2-run tempest fleet issue BPC (5-run firetail BPC)
at the same time, for dumping prices.
And can be found in a certain system you should be able to figure out by now. Hint: its low-sec.
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![Sorethen Sorethen](/images/people/img12.png)
Sorethen
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Posted - 2006.05.08 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Argenton Sayvers People who sell +5 Implants in large quantities also sell: 1 Shaquil Speed enhancer 1 2-run tempest fleet issue BPC (5-run firetail BPC)
at the same time, for dumping prices.
Where are they getting them though? If demand has lowered so much people would stop accepting them as agent offers because other offers would be more lucrative. That would cause prices to go back up. So a large supply of the implants must be coming from something other than mission running?
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![Jenny Spitfire Jenny Spitfire](/images/people/img16.png)
Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.08 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 08/05/2006 15:52:00
Globalisation... More EvE players. More activities. More trades. More == cheap! ---------------- Official -V- Forum CarebearÖ. I mine on forums. ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif) RecruitMe@NOINT! |
![Hub Quantum Hub Quantum](/images/people/img9.png)
Hub Quantum
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Posted - 2006.05.09 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sorethen
Originally by: Argenton Sayvers People who sell +5 Implants in large quantities also sell: 1 Shaquil Speed enhancer 1 2-run tempest fleet issue BPC (5-run firetail BPC)
at the same time, for dumping prices.
Where are they getting them though? If demand has lowered so much people would stop accepting them as agent offers because other offers would be more lucrative. That would cause prices to go back up. So a large supply of the implants must be coming from something other than mission running?
Look at agent offers at that level and you'll see that's flawed logic, even at the currently dropped price +5s are still the best isk to lp ratio once you get up there. The only other competitors are the fleet/navy BSes, which have also dropped in price.
Pure and simple there's just more mission runners getting goods than there are people to buy them (True supply and demand, not the shoddy supply and demand that people cite for T2 goods. )
Really you can be farming l4s in a raven in two to two and a half months, even faster with the monks now. How many people are in the market to fill their heads full of +5s after two months? That two to three month time would also be in line with the recent player influx.
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![Jenny Spitfire Jenny Spitfire](/images/people/img15.png)
Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.09 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Hub Quantum ...
Actually, this is good news for PvPers. Cheap implants! ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif) ---------------- Official -V- Forum CarebearÖ. I mine on forums. ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif) RecruitMe@NOINT! |
![Lord WarATron Lord WarATron](/images/people/img3.png)
Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.05.09 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 09/05/2006 14:32:06 But part of it defies logic - Jump Clones should increase demand for +5's
Before nobody who would touch pvp would use +5's. It was too risky. Now, with jump clones, every man and his dog would want a +5 for their training clone, hence introducing a new market.
But what has changed, however, is the fact that people are spending their isk on capital ships/skillbooks and spending more money on BPO's.
Or the guys with all +4's worked out it would take years to break even if they had +5's (taking cybernetics 5 into account)
The best lp-isk ratio currently is Skillbooks, followed by the 10klp offer for a +3
Or quite simply, oversupply. :) --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
![Argenton Sayvers Argenton Sayvers](/images/people/img8.png)
Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.05.09 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 09/05/2006 14:56:07 [Most probably] You are all wrong. My post contained enough clues to figure it out i think.
Another hint: One of the posters in this thread was involved in something very similar a while ago.
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![Deja Thoris Deja Thoris](/images/people/img2.png)
Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Argenton Sayvers Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 09/05/2006 14:56:07 [Most probably] You are all wrong. My post contained enough clues to figure it out i think.
Riddles and obscure yoda like utterings dont go down too well.
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![Shiner BockBeer Shiner BockBeer](/images/people/img7.png)
Shiner BockBeer
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:52:00 -
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Any backwater system with a +18 lvl4 agent with combat missions has huge numbers of people farming isk in it. Sometimes in teams.
Prices are dropping because there are simply too many people taking the high-end offers.
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![GrimDoomsday GrimDoomsday](/images/people/img3.png)
GrimDoomsday
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Posted - 2006.05.09 17:55:00 -
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Not 100% sure but i think there a Cosmos mission reward now, easier to get than ****loads of LP.
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![Ashvul Ashvul](/images/people/img4.png)
Ashvul
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Posted - 2006.05.09 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Argenton Sayvers Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 09/05/2006 14:57:22 People who sell +5 Implants in large quantities also sell: 1 Shaquil Speed enhancer 1 2-run tempest fleet issue BPC 1 2-run Stabber fleet issue BPC *<-- edit (5-run firetail BPC)
at the same time, for dumping prices.
And can be found in a certain system you should be able to figure out by now. Hint: its low-sec.
All this and more could be yours!
http://eveinfo.com/cosmos/minmatarlowsec/ http://eveinfo.com/cosmos/amarrlowsec/
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