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Pothead Eve
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Posted - 2006.05.07 07:15:00 -
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i tried to make the maths for drone dmg. but it seems i ridiciously failed my task.
i ended up for somewhat like 360 dmg/sec for a lvl5 domi with heavy drones and advanced drone interfacing 5, on 5 OgreII's with gallente spec 4. it seems a bit low to me due to the fact, that everybody and their grannie argue about domi's are too strong by the fact they are able to nos/ecm with still good dmgoutput.
i don't want to argue with anyone about that, i just want to know if theese 360dmg/sec are a "considerably high dmgoutput" for some people, as i think its not much personally.
i'm asking because after a nos/ecm-nerf there is not much left for example the ishtar with 360 dmg/sec and the ability to fit 3x dual 150mm rails...
so pls would anybody do the drone maths for me?
thx for the work anybody that cares do for me.
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Lucus Ranger
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Posted - 2006.05.07 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: Lucus Ranger on 07/05/2006 10:40:07
Actually it will be around 638 dps I believe, when factoring in all the skills. Not sure I got calculation right though.
1.92x Dmg Mod on Ogre II
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Heavy Drone V = 2.4504606
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Drone Interfacing V = 6.097530120192
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Gallente Drone Spec 4 = 6.6001626986645
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Gallente BS V = 10.629628027826
Thermal Damage of Ogre II = 24, So 24 * 10.629628027826 = 255.11107266782 * 5 (Number of Ogre) = 1275.5553633391 / 2 (ROF) = 637.77768166956 or 638 (I think)
I'm probably horribly wrong though  , but I believe your drone dps is 638...
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Tehyarec
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Posted - 2006.05.07 13:21:00 -
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What I get from evegeek.com's drone damage calculator is closer to Pothead's numbers. Not exactly superdamage compared to what you can get with guns - even a Brutix could outdamage that I believe.
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Lanielle
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Posted - 2006.05.07 14:43:00 -
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I think this is correct:
Base damage mod = 1.92
Heavy drone V multiplier = 1.25
Drone Interfacing V multiplier = 2
Gallente drone spec 4 multiplier = 1.08
Gallente BS 5 multiplier = 1.5
Total multiplier = 1.92*1.25*2*1.08*1.5 = 7.776
Total damage = Damage mod * Drone Damage * Number of Drones / ROF
= 7.776*24*5/2
= 466.56 DPS
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.05.07 14:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Lanielle
I think this is correct:
Base damage mod = 1.92
Heavy drone V multiplier = 1.25
Drone Interfacing V multiplier = 2
Gallente drone spec 4 multiplier = 1.08
Gallente BS 5 multiplier = 1.5
Total multiplier = 1.92*1.25*2*1.08*1.5 = 7.776
Total damage = Damage mod * Drone Damage * Number of Drones / ROF
= 7.776*24*5/2
= 466.56 DPS
Lanielle
Looks about right. Bear in mind when talking about overpowered ships this damage is entirely seperate from turret damage, and uses no pg, cpu, or cap. This is why people say the domi is overpowered - it can fit a %^ú"er of a tank, do normal bs damage with its drones, and then has plenty of highs and mids left to play around with.
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Lucus Ranger
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Posted - 2006.05.07 15:02:00 -
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Ahh.. I see now... thanks for that, wasnt sure how you calculated it tbh
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.05.07 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: smallgreenblur
Looks about right. Bear in mind when talking about overpowered ships this damage is entirely seperate from turret damage, and uses no pg, cpu, or cap. This is why people say the domi is overpowered - it can fit a %^ú"er of a tank, do normal bs damage with its drones, and then has plenty of highs and mids left to play around with.
It's got plenty of mids to play around with, but the highs are limited to dual 250mm or maybe electrons at best. Also, if you fit it for PvE, you won't have many mid slots left because you need all the capacitor you can get.
Yes, the Dominix' power is in Nosferatu and/or ECM setups - not exactly in it's drones. It's got enough CPU to fit both at the same time (but you'll have to fit an RCU or two in order to do the NOS+tank setups).
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smallgreenblur
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Posted - 2006.05.07 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
Originally by: smallgreenblur
Looks about right. Bear in mind when talking about overpowered ships this damage is entirely seperate from turret damage, and uses no pg, cpu, or cap. This is why people say the domi is overpowered - it can fit a %^ú"er of a tank, do normal bs damage with its drones, and then has plenty of highs and mids left to play around with.
It's got plenty of mids to play around with, but the highs are limited to dual 250mm or maybe electrons at best. Also, if you fit it for PvE, you won't have many mid slots left because you need all the capacitor you can get.
Yes, the Dominix' power is in Nosferatu and/or ECM setups - not exactly in it's drones. It's got enough CPU to fit both at the same time (but you'll have to fit an RCU or two in order to do the NOS+tank setups).
Not entirely true, since other ships could fit nos / ecm setups but are less effective than the domi due to its drone bonus. NPCing in a domi is like taking candy from a baby, i don't even bother swapping out of my pvp setup any more.
If you fit dual reps, hardners and injector you've got around 5k pg left. That's plenty to put more damage in the highs, or nos, as well as your primary drone based damage. How many other dual rep/injector bs can boast the same?
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Taketa De
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Posted - 2006.05.07 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: smallgreenblur
Not entirely true, since other ships could fit nos / ecm setups but are less effective than the domi due to its drone bonus. NPCing in a domi is like taking candy from a baby, i don't even bother swapping out of my pvp setup any more.
If you fit dual reps, hardners and injector you've got around 5k pg left. That's plenty to put more damage in the highs, or nos, as well as your primary drone based damage. How many other dual rep/injector bs can boast the same?
sgb
Other ships can also fit 5 Ogre IIs and do 2/3rds of the damage of a Domi with them...
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Morrigan Starlover
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Posted - 2006.05.08 00:41:00 -
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Heavy/Medium/Light drone V multiplier = 1.25
Drone Interfacing V multiplier = 2
Race Specific drone V multiplier = 1.1
CombinedDroneMod = (1.25 * 2 * 1.1) = 2.75
Heavy = 24; dmgMod = 1.92; ROF = 2; baseDPS = 23.04; baseDPS * CombinedDroneMod = 63.36
Medium = 12; dmgMod = 1.56; ROF = 2; baseDPS = 9.36; baseDPS * CombinedDroneMod = 25.74
Light = 7.5; dmgMod = 1.56; ROF = 2; baseDPS = 5.85; baseDPS * CombinedDroneMod = 16.0875
125+ capacity = (5x Heavy) = 316.8 drone dps
75 capacity = ((2x Heavy) + (2x Medium) + (1x Light)) = 194.3 drone dps
Raven/Scorpion/Tempest/Apocalypse = 194.3 drone dps
Typhoon/Armageddon/Megathron = 316.8 drone dps
Dominix = 475.2 drone dps
Please dont ignore the damage that all other battleships can do with drones.
Yes, Dominix does more dps with drones. But like the above poster said, its not like drone damage is an exclusive Dominix only ability.
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