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The Jawbreaker
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Posted - 2006.05.09 13:36:00 -
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THE CORPORATION!!!  |

Sun Ra
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Posted - 2006.05.09 15:00:00 -
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ISS NAVY
Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas' |

Fred0
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Posted - 2006.05.09 15:04:00 -
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RAT. CELES X13 FZN (mad individual skills) ---
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Ugluuk
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Posted - 2006.05.09 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: GODofHELL
Originally by: Chopzor After my own experience on my accounts:
1.Beyond Divinity Inc..Not a big power corp but never gives up, never die without trying and not appreciated enough by people for doing what the game was invented too..Fight good fights..
LOL thats a crap corp imo ;) ;)
The 5 best are.. 1. NSN 2. CE 3. The Corporation 4. SHARKS 5. BNC
That`s because you have to blob us to kill us..
Thanx for the compliment..
My list: (my list goes after my own experience and not from the usual blob entries)
1.4s ( they respect good fights and attack pretty even numbers without getting the blob to come)
2.Out of Exile Small but always give good fights for their enemies
3.Alcatraz Inc Gave us some of the best fights i`ve had in Eve..Really great guys
4.Quam Singulari Rocked in FOE and rock now
http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/ Ugluuk has great hair and a nice pink hat -Dyvim Please keep sig height to below 120 pixels. Mail [email protected] for info - Cathath
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Eric carr
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:04:00 -
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Havent meet many of this corps you talkin about, but when i flied with Atuk and rest of old 5 it was a pleasure. Flying with i must say SOTG (RIP) and specially Freemanns long talks about "if you use stabs you get podded and kicked". I love the none wcs policy  It is always fun to fly with Light Darkness cuz it dosent matter what we meet when he is FC, HE always ends up in a pod, dont ask me how , self destruct and logs :P And last but not least Quam in LV for the hell of fun night when we had some great PVP. Sadly I was just about to change corp when that happend. Still look back at that night and laugh....
Please only use english in your signature - Jacques([email protected]) |

Stefoudemon
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:09:00 -
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RAT for imagination and always new crazy tactics :)
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raVn666
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:31:00 -
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my list .. random order ...
Celestial Apocalypse ... gives damn good fights (miss U guys in Syndicate) Tundragon ... best pirates around x13 ... was good ...(dunno after they reformed) The exotic Dansers club ... of course 
Exotic dancer forum
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2006.05.09 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ugluuk
1.4s ( they respect good fights and attack pretty even numbers without getting the blob to come)
I just lost all respect I ever had for you. This is simply not the case. My thoughts
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.05.09 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Ugluuk
1.4s ( they respect good fights and attack pretty even numbers without getting the blob to come)
I just lost all respect I ever had for you. This is simply not the case.
Yes it is the case. Ugluuk is correct. 4s are a decent pvp. Not the best by any means, but deffinatly in the top 5%. If they have frustrated you with their seemingly unwillingness to dock or fight, this is your fault. If you want to kill people, don't expect them to line up like cows at a slaughter house. 4s will certainly not do this. You need to step it up a notch if u want to take them on. This includes both getting a fight out of them in the first place AND winning. This is why 4s are so good. Simply having a single bs bait at a station, will not work on them. Their knowledge of the game is excellent. You must out-do them to win.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2006.05.09 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra ... ... . .
Simply chosing your time doesn't make you a good fighter. Doesn't mean anything else than you limit yourself to exposiure. I can to some extent respect that. But what a way to play a game. Goes for you to btw. Your in the same boat there tactically so it makes only sence that you whould justifie it. I however don't really considder that skilled pvping. And is why I don't considder you of 4s really good pvpers. Now, your free to disagree on that. And feel what you like about me for it. I really don't care all that much. However, I do not respect that form of fighting or ppl who admire it. It's like watching a really boring defencive football match that ends 0-0.
My thoughts
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2006.05.09 18:09:00 -
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lol 4s are way better than sas will ever be, sorry dude. ive fought you both
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Agent2 Holtze
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Posted - 2006.05.09 18:12:00 -
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BA Veto (pirate) MC K.O.S C-F
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Small Miner
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Posted - 2006.05.09 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Small Miner on 09/05/2006 18:14:28
Originally by: Sun Ra ISS NAVY
Yeah Right.....What is your kill ratio?
ISS have said they are neutrals so how can you be a top PVP corp. |

Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.05.09 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Shin Ra ... ... . .
Simply chosing your time doesn't make you a good fighter. Doesn't mean anything else than you limit yourself to exposiure. I can to some extent respect that. But what a way to play a game. Goes for you to btw. Your in the same boat there tactically so it makes only sence that you whould justifie it. I however don't really considder that skilled pvping. And is why I don't considder you of 4s really good pvpers. Now, your free to disagree on that. And feel what you like about me for it. I really don't care all that much. However, I do not respect that form of fighting or ppl who admire it. It's like watching a really boring defencive football match that ends 0-0.
Thats not what I'm saying. I'm saying that insisting on dictating time and place has nothing to do with pvp skill. It is a different matter completly. You are assuming that because of this their pvp skill sucks. That is what I'm getting .
Us and them are very different. Our tactics are not defensive, they are offensive, just different. We use our defensive capabilities in order to attack more effectively.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2006.05.09 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Thats not what I'm saying. I'm saying that insisting on dictating time and place has nothing to do with pvp skill. It is a different matter completly. You are assuming that because of this their pvp skill sucks. That is what I'm getting .
Us and them are very different. Our tactics are not defensive, they are offensive, just different. We use our defensive capabilities in order to attack more effectively.
I'm sorry but I just can't see what you mean whit being good pvpers. Every time we have come to fdz, they have remained extreamly inactive. And do their docking/redocking trick. The times they chose to fight, it's been in higher numbers, and sever tactical advantage, I can respect they taking those advantages. Only a select few times have they shown good fighting abillties. If you considder them good pvpers and good fighters. Thats up to you. I say that my own experiance tell me otherwise. And I do not respect that kind of fighting. If they have shown greater fighting possibilities towards you, good for you. Our experiance have not shown that. Sitting in a station and undocking/docking all day doesn't make you good fighters. Punishing you for your own misstakes doesn't make you good fighters. Their only greater abillity is to limit their exposure. My thoughts
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.05.09 18:53:00 -
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BOS - Awesome corp that made me the man i am today \o/ MLM - OMGWTFBBQERS. KIA - Excellent killers for sure and very proficent.
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2006.05.09 19:14:00 -
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My train crew is happy.
They get time off because the flames are heating up on their own. ---
Originally by: Wrangler ...why do you people always have to verbally assault each other over things that doesn't matter anyway?
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.05.09 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
I'm sorry but I just can't see what you mean whit being good pvpers. Every time we have come to fdz, they have remained extreamly inactive. And do their docking/redocking trick. The times they chose to fight, it's been in higher numbers, and sever tactical advantage, I can respect they taking those advantages. Only a select few times have they shown good fighting abillties. If you considder them good pvpers and good fighters. Thats up to you. I say that my own experiance tell me otherwise. And I do not respect that kind of fighting. If they have shown greater fighting possibilities towards you, good for you. Our experiance have not shown that. Sitting in a station and undocking/docking all day doesn't make you good fighters. Punishing you for your own misstakes doesn't make you good fighters. Their only greater abillity is to limit their exposure.
limiting their exposure does not make them good or bad pvpers. It just means they die less. Being a good or a bad pvper is derived from other qualities. In your initial post you implied that them limiting their exposure meant they were bad pvpers.
When I went to FDZ, I expected to see them docked all day like SAS always say they do. But they did not. They siezed every possible opportunity to get one over on us. Don't get me wrong, we still spanked 7 sorts of **** outa them, but they defended their space a lot better than any other alliance has.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2006.05.09 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
limiting their exposure does not make them good or bad pvpers. It just means they die less. Being a good or a bad pvper is derived from other qualities. In your initial post you implied that them limiting their exposure meant they were bad pvpers.
When I went to FDZ, I expected to see them docked all day like SAS always say they do. But they did not. They siezed every possible opportunity to get one over on us. Don't get me wrong, we still spanked 7 sorts of **** outa them, but they defended their space a lot better than any other alliance has.
I simply don't agree whit that. Being in the system and staying docked doesn't mean in my head that it's defending their space. It's simply being there. In all my experiance whit them. We ****** up backly for them to get a kill. I do not kinsidder that skillfull pvping. I call that taking advantage of the situation. I have no experiance of 4s outpreforming in these situations your talking about. Nor have I seen anything that I whould considder skillfully defending their space. Others might have. But in my experiance this haven't happend. However, lets just agree to disagree. If not. Your welcome to come along and force it upon me. Simple fact is that you won't get me to see the tactics I've seen from 4s, given any respect. Least of all as skillfull pvping. My thoughts
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.05.09 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Agenos Imperial Academy Federal Navy Academy Pator Tech School State War Academy
\o/
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Corey Grim
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Posted - 2006.05.09 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Corey Grim on 09/05/2006 20:06:16 Suprisingly hard to tell tbh...
who i have fought with/against a lot:
BOS (when certain ppl still were there) VIRII Shinra SAS
not so many fights but felt the impact:
Body count inc. FRICK Evolution
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Lardarz B'stard
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Posted - 2006.05.09 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ugluuk
2.Out of Exile
OMG thx
we try to avoid this kind of forum jiggerypokery, but my personal list is:
Evolution 4s BYDI Burn Eden Shinra
Exiles Recruitment |

Ugluuk
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Posted - 2006.05.09 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: Ugluuk on 09/05/2006 21:43:45
Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: Ugluuk
1.4s ( they respect good fights and attack pretty even numbers without getting the blob to come)
I just lost all respect I ever had for you. This is simply not the case.
4S know we dont come with the blob or go for sniper ganks so when Bydi arrives with a little fleet we usually get attacked by the 4s fleet even tho they might have 1 pilot less..
It wasn't always like that but they had to work hard to convince me and they did..
But i got to remind you: i wrote over the list..
From own experience and not including blob fights..It dont have to be the same for you..
http://bydi.digilo.net/forum/ Ugluuk has great hair and a nice pink hat -Dyvim Please keep sig height to below 120 pixels. Mail [email protected] for info - Cathath
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2006.05.09 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: NAFnist lol 4s are way better than sas will ever be, sorry dude. ive fought you both
Sure..........have you been on the receving end of briggetes tacyons.they hurt lots!!!
Technolisa>those yellow things work better than platinum insurance :P |

NAFnist
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Posted - 2006.05.09 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: OVERCOPES 1
Originally by: NAFnist lol 4s are way better than sas will ever be, sorry dude. ive fought you both
Sure..........have you been on the receving end of briggetes tacyons.they hurt lots!!!
actually no, all the time sas fought against FE i never once fought them in BS engagements, it happended all the time with 4s during that same period. So for a 'bad' pvp corp as 4s, they sure did put up more of a fight then sas ever did.
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Kai Jyokoroi
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Posted - 2006.05.10 01:01:00 -
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Much respect to Xenobytes in terms of fast, short range fleets. Tough cookies and serious BS killers.
My favourite enemies  _____________
STAIN ALLIANCE ....As I recall, people didn't much like the Vietcong, either.
Revamp the Domi! |

Graalum
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Posted - 2006.05.10 01:09:00 -
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4s and sas have both rocked my world.
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Sadist
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Posted - 2006.05.10 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Caybn E'vangel Cataclysm Enterprises have impressed me multiple times, on both fleet and small gang/solo levels.
Also Xenobytes from SE utilise some very effective tactics.
<3, I'm not a member, but always fly with them if there's a gang. So i'll take partial credit for your praise, thx. --------------- VIP member of the [23]
Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2006.05.17 00:14:00 -
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Ugh how I loathe these threads. Being 'good' at PvP is such an incredibly subjective term I doubt it'll ever be defined in a way most people can agree upon. Kill boards, engagements, entire wars.. unless they have really contrasting results you can't really derive anything from them. I'm pretty sure most of the corps mentioned would kick the crap out of any non-PvP alliance, while versus each other it'd be a clash of strategies.. often leading to stale mates due to one side not engaging for whatever reasons. In the end, results from engagements would probably level out one way or another. Regardless, plenty of people will still argue about whom 'is the best', often bashing each other's strategies (ganking, stabs, blobbing, etc etc).
To me any PvP corp can consider themselves uber if they achieve their goal through whatever means necessary.
Often people complain about another corp's strategy, but really it just only proofs that that corp's strategy works, and whatever works is fine in my book. People bash Burn Eden but if their strategy which involves 'unique' Raven setups gets them lots of kills with minimal losses then I call that a good strategy. I don't have to like it, but I respect it as I respect all PvP corps that have an unique strategy. An unique way of doing things.
I joined the PvP corps I joined because at the time I looked at how they did things and I liked it, and I wanted to be part of that. I respect E-R because they're not afraid to get in there even with the odds against them. I respect SAS because they're small but they're dedicated. I'm pretty sure that the other corps mentioned in this thread have their own unique approach that I don't know about (since I've only been part of E-R and SAS) and I'm pretty sure they're good at whatever they do 
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Adara Algar
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Posted - 2006.05.17 01:06:00 -
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Huff Technologies.
Enough Said.
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