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akuma white
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Posted - 2006.05.08 20:51:00 -
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Am i the only one getting fed up with seeing them all the time on the sell forum?
Theres just something wrong about people earning isk for RL cash and it seems to be getting popular.
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xPittx
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Posted - 2006.05.08 21:12:00 -
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Its the other way around as far as I am aware. People go out and BUY ETCs with their RL cash and then resell the codes for ingame isk.
The only person/persons profiting from this with RL money is CCP. People who sell ETC are just finding a way to accumulate a lot of isk with no ingame effort.
xPitt
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akuma white
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Posted - 2006.05.08 21:16:00 -
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 Originally by: xPittx
Its the other way around as far as I am aware. People go out and BUY ETCs with their RL cash and then resell the codes for ingame isk.
The only person/persons profiting from this with RL money is CCP. People who sell ETC are just finding a way to accumulate a lot of isk with no ingame effort.
xPitt
Sorry i was not clear thats what i meant using RL money to make in game isk.
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xPittx
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Posted - 2006.05.08 21:45:00 -
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oops, misread what you wrote.
I agree it does seem a bit unfair that people can use their RL success to influence their in game success. But, selling ETCs does help out a lot of people who are unable to pay the monthly subscription fee. If CCP took away ETC selling in game there would be a drop in active accounts. And that is probably the last this CCP would want to do.
xPitt
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Bailey Banks
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Posted - 2006.05.09 21:31:00 -
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It's also a useful way to accumulate working capital quickly, assuming you have a plan. I sold 2 time codes for 540M a few months ago, now I buy them to keep three accounts going (I never touch the goods with my main, or this one either). Without the jumpstart from the initial ETC sale, I would be lucky to *now* be reaching the kind of capitalization I needed. |
Murukan
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Posted - 2006.05.10 01:36:00 -
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personally i like them, less money i have to spend on my eve subscription
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nim TsuNim
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Posted - 2006.05.10 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: nim TsuNim on 10/05/2006 11:41:24
It's an interesting area. Ethically, and from an in game point of view only, it can be argued that the practice is unfair to those that earn all their cash in game. It introduces a crossover of out of game mechanics to in game mechanics and ensures that there is a union between the in game economy and the out of game economy.
However, it should be pointed out that these crossovers already exist in EvE without allowing the sale of GTC's. A person with access to a credit card purchases game time on a rolling basis via a subscription. The economies are tied already, though not as acutely perhaps as that which is introduced by selling GTC to gamers for ISK. Without the GTC the relationship is lagged ie it takes time for the transaction to translate into in game currency.
A GTC bought using a credit card is an exchange of real life cash for in game time. The reseller of a GTC simply purchases another players ISK using pre-paid in game time. Note, there is no extra injection of currency into the economy. It's a swap from one pilot's wallet to another's.
Given that there is no in game economic issue with the transaction, all other issues that are raised must be of a personal nature.
Pilot A may be annoyed at pilot B for not having to work as hard for ISK but pilot C might be thankful for the opportunity that B has provided him with; namely to continue playing the game. In the above example CCP, pilot B and pilot C all benefit directly from the exchange. It could be argued that so does pilot A as more players in a MMOLRPG is generally healthy if the kit is up to it.
The seller of a GTC may have very good reasons for engaging in the practice. I have done it once and only recently. The reason I purchased and then sold a card is because I canĘt afford the real life time required to enjoy aspects of the game that I wish to explore. This is partially a result of the mechanics of skill training that CCP has introduced to their credit ie my skills accelerate faster and further than the amount of time I can reasonable afford to put into the game and avenues are opened to me that are only limited by ISK, not by game time.
Overall, my perspective is that GTC selling for in game ISK is at worst neutral and at best good for the long term viability of the game.
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d'hofren
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Posted - 2006.05.10 12:12:00 -
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Discussed here
I am tired of discussing it but I agree with you guys.
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