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Misadventure
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Misadventure on 09/05/2006 16:08:36
I was thinking and comparing married friends of mine and my experience with corporations ingame. This is at least for whipped people, I am sure there are some good women who give their men freedom, but i have yet to have a friend who has one of those wives. Figured I would type this out for fun perhaps it will give someone else a laugh as it did me. Please excuse any small errors as i typed this fairly fast and didn't put too much thought into it.
PLAYER CORPS
Basically if you join a player corp you have responsibility to help them for the most part and they come first. You also have to pay a tax of normally 10%. You stay with them because they give you something that you cannot get with NPC corps. It is hard to find a good corp or one that you will be happy with for a long period of time. You are putting yourself into a situation where you have a high probability of getting bossed around. You will have difficulty doing the things that you want to do NO FREEDOM. If you leave things have the potential to get messy. Typically you are expected to give up your old friends for your new friends. Political DRAMA. You have to deal with the corporations problems. As your character matures ingame it is more tempting to get into a player corp.
BEING MARRIED
With a wife you have a responsiblity support them and they are supposed to come first even before your friends. She is gonna cost you money most of the time as you have to support her. You stay with her because she gives you something that your guy friends cannot give you. It is hard to find a good wife or one that you will be happy with for a long period of time. You are putting yourself into a situation where you have a high probability of getting bossed around. You will have difficulty doing the things that you want to do, NO FREEDOM. If you leave things have the potential to get messy. Expect to give up your old friends and let her pick your friends which are her friends. DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA. You have to deal with her problems. You will die miserable or happy
NPC CORPS
No responsibility to your corp. Freedom to do what you want. You dont have to pay any tax / support, you keep all of your hard earned ISK. You have to do without some luxuries. Nobody bossing you around. Play with who you want when you want. Hardly any political drama.
BEING SINGLE
No responsibility to a wife. Freedom to do what you want. You dont have to support anyone but yourself so you keep all of your hard earned money. You have to do without some luxuries. Nobody bossing you around. Play with who you want when you want. You pick how much drama that you want in your life.
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AGAIN there is always the anomoly where you can find a good corp that doesnt tax you to hell or try to control your every move or find a women that doesnt expect you to give up your friends.
This is how I see these things and how they compare. I am single and plan on staying in an NPC corp for a good while until I can afford to deal with other corporations problems. My last few Player corp experiences were about the equivalents of bad marriages. Know when to holdem, know when to foldem. You will die alone or comfortable.
PS
I am not in a rush to buy the cow / get married like some people ;)
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Deja Thoris
Since we're comparing married and single. An npc corp is "like playing with yourself"
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:10:00 -
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Since we're comparing married and single. An npc corp is "like playing with yourself"
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Alain Josviar
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Alain Josviar on 09/05/2006 16:15:13
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Since we're comparing married and single. An npc corp is "like playing with yourself"
I think you've got being married confused with the pre-marriage state, because being married and being single are the same in that regard. 
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Ivan Kirilenkov
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Since we're comparing married and single. An npc corp is "like playing with yourself"
I dare not think of the implications of comparing a corp to being married, while comparing an NPC-corp to playing with yourself - particularly not when you consider that EvE is a "massive multiplayer online game".... SOMEONE TAKE AWAY THE PICTURES!
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Faith Black
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Alain Josviar
Edited by: Alain Josviar on 09/05/2006 16:15:13
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Since we're comparing married and single. An npc corp is "like playing with yourself"
I think you've got being married confused with the pre-marriage state, because being married and being single are the same in that regard.
ROFL
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Since we're comparing married and single. An npc corp is "like playing with yourself"
rofl
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Eru Aesir
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:20:00 -
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 09/05/2006 16:20:09
Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Since we're comparing married and single. An npc corp is "like playing with yourself"
I dare not think of the implications of comparing a corp to being married, while comparing an NPC-corp to playing with yourself - particularly not when you consider that EvE is a "massive multiplayer online game".... SOMEONE TAKE AWAY THE PICTURES!
Suddenly the 856 people online in my corp feel disgusting.
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Unholy Preacher
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:49:00 -
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A few quick points, alot of ppl these days get married for all the wrong reasons, whether its cuz of desparation/fear of being lonely/peer pressure. Either way tho, it distorts what marriage should be about which is both mutual respect and understanding. The stereotypical response that the "wife" limits the husband's time on eve is unfair. If the marriage was based upon the above s aid mutal respect and understanding then there would be no need for the wife to "twist" the husband's arm.
There are many examples of sucessful relationships in the gaming world, more commonly now we see gaming couples in mmos playing side by side enjoying something mutally instead of being an imbalanced situation where one partner is stuck with all the duties (typically the wife) versus the male is the individual entitled to "free time" because he is the main source of family income. Many times i have heard my friend say that when he does get married he is going to force his wife to play games with him but if she doesnt enjoy it in the first place how is forcing it going to make it any better of a situation ?
Anyways as for the comparison to player corps being "no freedom" versus npc corps being free well thats not necessarily true. Player corps are what ppl make of it, there are many corps out there that have strict policies while some are lax and are merely just over glorified friends lists. The situation is what you choose to make of it. Lastly, to the comments about "responsibility" to your wife is yet another example of how embeded socical thought of how women are percieved as the inferior gender and that males are needed to take the lead role within a family unit and furthermore how when the wife takes the male away from his entertainment (in this case eve) that it is an example of that dominant relationship in providing. Anyways ive totally forgot what the whole point of this post is supposed to be about but i blame this entire feminist blurb on my friend who gave me a 10 minute lecture on the subject for something i had said in jest while in fact i do understand the complexities of the issues.
Anyways i get blasted alot for being a male a chauvenistic conservative pig whos too near sighted to see broader implications. Obviously this post is a slight jab at my liberal feminist friends who bug me about these issues that believe i have no understanding. Either way theres not a chance in hell they will ever read this post as none of them play eve, so i have effectively just wasted a good 10 minutes of my life and probably yours too for reading this entire thing. Have a nice day !
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:54:00 -
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Or you join a corp that focuses on the members, everyone works as a team and you have what you want on tap.
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Syrec
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:58:00 -
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I don't pay tax, I can fly anywhere I want whenever I want, and I'm not required to do anything (though I probably would for corp pride). You could find a freelancing style corp if you like to do your own thing 
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.09 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Unholy Preacher
Either way theres not a chance in hell they will ever read this post as none of them play eve, so i have effectively just wasted a good 10 minutes of my life and probably yours too for reading this entire thing. Have a nice day !
Well, dont feel bad. Ive wasted time in worse ways. Soon i have to go to a damn wedding and i really, really, really, really hate that sort of thing.
Oh well. Continue the thread.
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Doyenne
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Posted - 2006.05.09 17:09:00 -
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in my opinion all the drama you talk about is the responsability of the CEO
CEO got drama handling requs. The rest of the corp should be protected from that crap
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Misadventure
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Posted - 2006.05.09 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Roaming
Or you join a corp that focuses on the members, everyone works as a team and you have what you want on tap.
Oh i forgot a woman / corp will tell you what you want to hear pre marriage , it is after the fact that you realize that you are trapped.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.10 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Misadventure
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Or you join a corp that focuses on the members, everyone works as a team and you have what you want on tap.
Oh i forgot a woman / corp will tell you what you want to hear pre marriage , it is after the fact that you realize that you are trapped.
Funny, I could leave my corp tomorrow, and it'd be a hell of alot easier than say, my brother leaving his wife.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.05.10 02:13:00 -
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man... either my head is severely warped by having grown up in a home with 2 parents who love eachother and are both eachother's first marrige, and all their kids really theirs...
IMO if your feeling that way about your corp... you need to find a better corp.
I wouldn't be in a corp that tries to put itself ahead of its members.
whats the point of being in a corp if you have to give up what you want to do, to be in it?
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.05.10 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek
man... either my head is severely warped by having grown up in a home with 2 parents who love eachother and are both eachother's first marrige, and all their kids really theirs...
IMO if your feeling that way about your corp... you need to find a better corp.
I wouldn't be in a corp that tries to put itself ahead of its members.
whats the point of being in a corp if you have to give up what you want to do, to be in it?
Then again what's the point of being in a corporation when you achieve nothing together that's greater than yourself? It's all about the balance. Sometimes you have to take one for the team.
Remind me about The Maze.
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Alaric Rurk
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Posted - 2006.05.10 02:24:00 -
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Edited by: Alaric Rurk on 10/05/2006 02:24:34
It's an interesting question. What does the married woman offer her husband these days? I'm not talking about thirty years ago when the situation was different. It seems that everything is about her now.
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Ashira Twilight
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Posted - 2006.05.10 03:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ashira Twilight on 10/05/2006 03:19:49
I sing that tune 24/7.
To the single guys out there, listen to the men that have gone before you........don't get married.
My wife seems to think that because her sex was repressed for so long, that it's their turn to do it to us. I've tried to argue my point, that I shouldn't be punished for things that happened before I was born, but I usually end up talking to the "hand".
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A Dragoon
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Posted - 2006.05.10 03:37:00 -
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Does this mean the people who join the Scope and similar in transition between wives are having one night stands?
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Foulis
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Posted - 2006.05.10 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Roaming
Or you join a corp that focuses on the members, everyone works as a team and you have what you want on tap.
*nods*
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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2006.05.10 07:52:00 -
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/me runs off to get his *****es in order, dam corp never does any thing these day's, and here i was letting them all rn off and have fun while i stayed home to copy bm's in jita.
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Boris2k
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Posted - 2006.05.10 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Since we're comparing married and single. An npc corp is "like playing with yourself"
Awesome.
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BlackFury
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Posted - 2006.05.10 08:53:00 -
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Edited by: BlackFury on 10/05/2006 08:55:59
What a complete load of tosh...
I'm happily married, i play Eve happily with my corp mates and friends.
I don't feel "trapped", i don't want to be single or in an npc corp..life is good.
If you spend the time getting to know the woman you married or corp you joined the relationship just gets better and better.
If your "not getting any" its either because you too involved in a virtual world or your just not doing it right.
This is my 2p from a gamer/husband who knows...hope it helps.
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Aion Amarra
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Posted - 2006.05.10 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: BlackFury
Edited by: BlackFury on 10/05/2006 08:55:59
What a complete load of tosh...
I'm happily married, i play Eve happily with my corp mates and friends.
I don't feel "trapped", i don't want to be single or in an npc corp..life is good.
If you spend the time getting to know the woman you married or corp you joined the relationship just gets better and better.
If your "not getting any" its either because you too involved in a virtual world or your just not doing it right.
This is my 2p from a gamer/husband who knows...hope it helps.
QFT.
With the small exception that I'd spend my time getting to know the woman BEFORE marrying her.
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BlackFury
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Posted - 2006.05.10 09:14:00 -
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hehe agreed, i never read it like that...what i was getting at is that there is always something new to learn about someone. 
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2006.05.10 09:38:00 -
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Thanks to modern world and living in country like Finland means that its women gender whos in control nowadays. Mens are only walking wallets and transhcans to spit on. I know many many persons who lives in marriage where men does almost all the home shores and women just "idles".
I was in a corp that felt like marriage. I was kinda scared of it and left EVE because of it (Still on my run). Before that I was in corp that was very passive and that was also wrong way.
Finding middle ground is always very hard to come by 
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.10 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon
Thanks to modern world and living in country like Finland means that its women gender whos in control nowadays. Mens are only walking wallets and transhcans to spit on. I know many many persons who lives in marriage where men does almost all the home shores and women just "idles".
I was in a corp that felt like marriage. I was kinda scared of it and left EVE because of it (Still on my run). Before that I was in corp that was very passive and that was also wrong way.
Finding middle ground is always very hard to come by
What i find strange in wimen is that the worse you treat them, the more they like you. This doesnt seem to be the same the other way around. If a women treats the guy like crap for long enough, he will leave her.
I think lots of marriages fall apart because people dont really know eachother before they get married though. Try living together for five years before you marry someone.
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Adrielle Firewalker
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Posted - 2006.05.10 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Misadventure
Basically if you join a player corp you have responsibility to help them for the most part and they come first. You also have to pay a tax of normally 10%. You stay with them because they give you something that you cannot get with NPC corps. It is hard to find a good corp or one that you will be happy with for a long period of time. You are putting yourself into a situation where you have a high probability of getting bossed around. You will have difficulty doing the things that you want to do NO FREEDOM. If you leave things have the potential to get messy. Typically you are expected to give up your old friends for your new friends. Political DRAMA. You have to deal with the corporations problems. As your character matures ingame it is more tempting to get into a player corp.
You've been looking at the wrong corps
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