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Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:32:00 -
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You buffer fit with 200mm plates and two adaptives and a DCU and one trimark.
You fit a small anc shield booster (THAT USES NO CAP!!!) that reps through 78 dps and reps over 200dps against Kinetic/Explosive (common from Caldari missile boats and Projectile tier 2).
The fit I was looking at is the following:
200mm II plates
adpative II x2
DCU II
1mn II (downgrade to limited if you need more pwoergrid)
Warp Scram II
Small Anc shield booster (normally a web goes here)
Rocket Launcher II x4
Small Power System Drain (vamp to perma maintain your MWD and point)
Rigs:
Small Trimark (can opt out for calefaction damage mod)
Small Anc Current Router (mandatory)
I really don't interpret this as "shield tanking" since it's capless. I see it as a way as "offsetting" the damage to your armor. |
Dato Koppla
Elite Guards
Stealth Wear Inc.
533
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:35:00 -
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SASBs provide too little to boost to be worth it at all. A web is far more useful and I would switch one of those Adaptive Nano Platings for a SAAR. |
Le Dei Opus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2014.04.09 08:00:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:SASBs provide too little to boost to be worth it at all. A web is far more useful and I would switch one of those Adaptive Nano Platings for a SAAR.
It's possible to drop the nosferatu for the Medium Anc shield booster. Now we're talking a 140-300 rep --- capless. |
Starbuck05
Evil Monkey Asylum
Evil Monkeys Asylum
172
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Posted - 2014.04.09 08:13:00 -
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Its not a bad ideea , i sometimes double tank some ships aswell,but in the vengeance's case i would not. Keep in mind its slow as a ship and unless you chose your targets more carefully ull gonna need the web. Also its not like the venge doesnt have a nice tank
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Saladinae
Empyrean Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
30
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Posted - 2014.04.17 02:08:00 -
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I've often flown Heretic with 14kehp armor buffers and two Medium Anc Shield Boosters in armor fleets.
In fact, the only Heretic I've lost in the past year was one WITHOUT the ASB, and I guarantee I would have survived if I had them. It's often the only thing between you and death before logi reps you in an armor fleet.
And as you said it's best interpreted as "offsetting" the damage being done to your armor.
Winmatar > Everything else |
Camper101
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
978
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Posted - 2014.04.17 07:22:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:I've often flown Heretic with 14kehp armor buffers and two Medium Anc Shield Boosters in armor fleets.
In fact, the only Heretic I've lost in the past year was one WITHOUT the ASB, and I guarantee I would have survived if I had them. It's often the only thing between you and death before logi reps you in an armor fleet.
And as you said it's best interpreted as "offsetting" the damage being done to your armor.
You can't really compare the 2. The vengeance can get a nifty 250dps tank from armor reps alone, without links. If I would fly one without a web, then an active armor one with cap boost. No ASB can give you that kind of survivability on this hull.
In fleets: Buffer tank it, if your Logi does not lock you before you explode you should probably kick them from corp.
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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
326
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Posted - 2014.04.17 13:56:00 -
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Camper101 wrote:
In fleets: Buffer tank it, if your Logi does not lock you before you explode you should probably kick them from corp.
Really? That seems pretty silly. Not to mention armor reps repair at the end of their cycle. I've had plenty of times where I've flown logi and had someone alpha'd while my reps were cycling.
Aside from that, there aren't many corps with either A) logi4-5 pilots in abundance (or whatever cruiser 5 if you're T1) or B) a large quantity of willing logistics pilots, since most pilots would much rather get in on the kill mail.
Most corps are happy to have a logi pilot provided that they reliably repair targets when asked to and warp/align with the fleet. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
2060
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Posted - 2014.04.17 17:04:00 -
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Wow... I wrote a response to this thread where i made a really elaborate no song... but i forgot to post it..
Now i won't do that again because i'm lazy so i'll paraphrase
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BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Valleria Darkmoon
Convicts and Savages
Shadow Cartel
227
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Posted - 2014.04.17 20:11:00 -
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By the way you don't want to perma run your MWD, once you get on top of a target you pulse it only to keep in range if your target is AB fit and can pull range on you if you have it off. That is assuming you are not also scrammed by him, probably a dubious assumption at best. Leaving your MWD on in close quarters just makes it harder to stick to your target within scram range if you're orbiting and blooms your signature so you take more damage, don't do that. |
Inkarr Hashur
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
498
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Posted - 2014.04.17 20:55:00 -
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You won't have the resists. Don't bother, that's like trying to protect yourself with a wet paper towel. Anything is better in that slot. |
WaterMarks
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2014.04.18 00:50:00 -
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Missiles dont use cap, so to me a saar is a better choice.
And you dont need a scram dispiite what every one says dual webs is so nice.on the vengeance.
-Fly Reckless- |
Praxis Ginimic
Dead Men Rising
Ushra'Khan
789
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Posted - 2014.04.18 06:58:00 -
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If you want to fit ASB then why not just fly a jag? |
Deerin
Murientor Tribe
Defiant Legacy
228
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Posted - 2014.04.18 08:16:00 -
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You'll die and your fit will be laughstock for many podcasts out there.
Worth trying for getting some (although negative) eve-fame. |
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