i dont have **** skills

ok i understand the need to make hacking sites more difficult then before, but this **** game you got us playing is just that..****

lets sum it up, you spend however long looking for a site, could be few hrs to find a site with something worth taking, add to this ur up against alot of other new players looking for same sites.

so you have 1, it has at least 1 can with something other then **** in it, start hacking, then its pretty much down to pure luck if you hit the right buttons, because to me it seems there are far too many blocks in the way, if you manage to brk the can you then again have to rely on luck to hopefully pick up the 1 item out of all the **** to make the site worthwhile!!

How absolutely ******* boring this procedure is. lets face it, u have had to design and add a new ship to the game just to fill the role cause its so bollocks..well done

i dont have **** skills but this ******* piece of crap hacking method is utter crap, how the **** anyone see's this crap as a viable income is beyond me, well lets face it, no ****** runs data sites as it is

ok i understand the need to make hacking sites more difficult then before, but this **** game you got us playing is just that..****

lets sum it up, you spend however long looking for a site, could be few hrs to find a site with something worth taking, add to this ur up against alot of other new players looking for same sites.

so you have 1, it has at least 1 can with something other then **** in it, start hacking, then its pretty much down to pure luck if you hit the right buttons, because to me it seems there are far too many blocks in the way, if you manage to brk the can you then again have to rely on luck to hopefully pick up the 1 item out of all the **** to make the site worthwhile!!

How absolutely ******* boring this procedure is. lets face it, u have had to design and add a new ship to the game just to fill the role cause its so bollocks..well done

i dont have **** skills but this ******* piece of crap hacking method is utter crap, how the **** anyone see's this crap as a viable income is beyond me, well lets face it, no ****** runs data sites as it is

Star Citizen is that way ------->

There are also STO and Elite in the same direction. And the latter has a good chance to have actual exploration - with unknown star systems, planets, asteroid fields etc. - just 3-4 months later. you better be careful with sending people away, it may result in half-empty New Eden couple years later.

As for the loot spill - it was designed to turn players into PvP content so there is no point doing it in hi-sec, go low/null for better income.

There are also STO and Elite in the same direction. And the latter has a good chance to have actual exploration - with unknown star systems, planets, asteroid fields etc. - just 3-4 months later. you better be careful with sending people away, it may result in half-empty New Eden couple years later.

As for the loot spill - it was designed to turn players into PvP content so there is no point doing it in hi-sec, go low/null for better income.

There are also STO and Elite in the same direction. And the latter has a good chance to have actual exploration - with unknown star systems, planets, asteroid fields etc. - just 3-4 months later. you better be careful with sending people away, it may result in half-empty New Eden couple years later.

Could any null dwellers give me an approximate ISK/hour estimate on relic and data sites? I recently found that I quite enjoy the minigame but have only done it in low sec up until now. If it's good money in 0.0 I might go on a little excursion.

Eve may have to pull some rabbits out of hats to keep players interested. Interesting times ahead.

"It will fix all the problems with EvE Online"

There are also STO and Elite in the same direction. And the latter has a good chance to have actual exploration - with unknown star systems, planets, asteroid fields etc. - just 3-4 months later. you better be careful with sending people away, it may result in half-empty New Eden couple years later.

As for the loot spill - it was designed to turn players into PvP content so there is no point doing it in hi-sec, go low/null for better income.

Grrrrrrr Not all professions pay the same.

According to inside sources (devs on twitter), the loot spew should be going away with the Summer release.

EVE had a stongehold becuase the space genre MMO was largely abandoned. Now with some competition (and no I dont mean KOTORish games) Eve may have to pull some rabbits out of hats to keep players interested. Interesting times ahead.

According to inside sources (devs on twitter), the loot spew should be going away with the Summer release.

I demand that my forum posting pay at least as much as running Sanctums in an officer fit Nyx.

ok i understand the need to make hacking sites more difficult then before, but this *) game you got us playing is just that. *)

lets sum it up, you spend however long looking for a site

Oh yeah, that would be the day. Imagine the Isk/hr we would make if forum posting earned Isk...

By the way - it's not far from reality I see on some social sites (such as Twitter, FB, Reddit): people use cryptocurrencies (dogecoins for example) to tip posters using "tipbots" and simple commands like "+tipbot 100 coins". Could be nice to have such tipbot for official forums - to tip ISK to posters (apparently logging into game takes too much effort). If you think it's a joke - yesterday I've seen $850 tip, few days ago someone tipped $6k equivalent in a single tip.

p.s. apologies for off-topic.

Really? because all you need is the basic skills at 3 to stand a 50/50 of doing null sites

ok i understand the need to make hacking sites more difficult then before, but this *) game you got us playing is just that. *)

lets sum it up, you spend however long looking for a site, could be few hrs to find a site with something worth taking, add to this ur up against alot of other new players looking for same sites.

so you have 1, it has at least 1 can with something other then *) in it, start hacking, then its pretty much down to pure luck if you hit the right buttons, because to me it seems there are far too many blocks in the way, if you manage to brk the can you then again have to rely on luck to hopefully pick up the 1 item out of all the*) to make the site worthwhile!!

How absolutely *) boring this procedure is. lets face it, u have had to design and add a new ship to the game just to fill the role *)..well done

*)

*)= *Snip* Please refrain from using profanity. ISD Ezwal.

plan fairly well how to attack the mini-game, I can't rally see that there's much luck involved unless you choose to do it all blind (read: doing it wrong).

Wait ... you think there is actually a skill involved "solving" the mini-game? Besides a few tiny tactics it is, in my opinion, a game of sheer luck. I would really like to read otherwise.

relic and data sites drop up to a billion isk in loot in a c6 wormhole, if you know how to do them - solo, by the way.

So yeah, works as intended.

If you find the drops in your region are trash, move to wormhole space and start working your way up the real PvE chain.

Living in a wormhole you deserve to get a billion per relic... aweful places, feel like closets.

You can make some decent isk from it. Nowhere near as much as other combat related things but then you're not risking a multi-hundred million isk ship.

The thing that makes it pay less is doing it in areas / times where lots of people are also doing it.

One issue I have with sites is the complete irrelevancy of data sites. They're crap. I'd like to see more faction bpc in data sites but make the cans unscannable. Leave relics how they are, they pay quite well.