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Jon Marburg
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Posted - 2011.11.14 19:08:00 -
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Looking at SiSi it doesn't appear that any of the interdictors have received the sig and hp buff of their T1 counterparts. Was this intentional or just overlooked? In the current state, dictors entire role consists of bubbling and getting off field or hiding. Was kind of hoping that pilots for these ships would be able to actually have a reason to fit guns to their ships, because right now they're just expensive coffins if you stay on field. Looking at the numbers it appears that the T1 versions now have equal dps and more ehp and survivability. It seems appropriate that the T2 version be at least as survival as the T1, as right now there is no reason to fly them aside from the bubble. |
Jon Marburg
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Posted - 2011.11.14 21:30:00 -
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You can't really argue that interdictors don't need a survivability buff when in the current state they're getting insta-popped in any fleet engagement and the pilots are pretty much guaranteed to end up coming home in pods if they're lucky or in new clones if they aren't. I just don't really see a reason to fix just the t1 version, but leave the t2 with all the current issues faced by destroyer hulls. |
Jon Marburg
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Posted - 2011.11.15 03:57:00 -
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Kind of surprised at the lack of response. I know talking with corpmates that they had assumed that the changes to the t1 hulls would carry through to the t2 ones as well and were surprised to find that as of the current version they aren't going to be. Is it just lack of knowledge or do people really not think carrying over the survivability buff is necessary? |
Jon Marburg
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Posted - 2011.11.20 01:51:00 -
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Pytria Le'Danness wrote:But in all seriousness, you ARE in a very bad situation there. You are the sole enemy ship around and everyone has nothing better to do since you just took all their options away; basically the only thing they can do to pass the time is to shoot you. Anything that makes you survive there for a significant amount of time is going to make the class very much overp . owered. Remember, you want the ship to survive the onslaught of the whole enemy fleet, a firepower that probably matches CONCORD s 
If you're the only ship in your fleet on grid you're doing it wrong. The only reason interdictors should be getting primaried is if the fleet is planning on running not because someone had a spare second to lock them. While I agree that they shouldn't stand up to being primaried, they shouldn't be getting easily volleyed by individual battleships.
The destroyer class is slightly more robust than frigate hulls but slightly smaller than cruisers so their hulls should reflect this. There shouldn't be cruisers with smaller signature radiuses and frigates shouldn't have more ehp than destroyers either. While the current buff fixes these issues on the t1 hulls, it becomes glaringly obvious that similar principles should be applied to t2 as well. Guardians have smaller signatures than Heretics and my Keres has more ehp than a Sabre. This shouldn't be the case.
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Jon Marburg
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Posted - 2011.11.20 02:52:00 -
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Einar Matveinen wrote:
All logistics have a role bonus, their signature radius is smaller than the signature of their Tech I hull variations. Augoror have a larger signature than a heretic for example.
You seem to have missed the point. I understand why logistics are supposed to have a smaller signature. (logistics ships don't specifically say they have a role bonus to sig radius fyi). I'm simply comparing T2 ships in the destroyer hull to those T2 and equivalent faction ships in cruiser and frigate hulls. If you don't like that example, how about how the flycatcher and stabber fleet issue have almost equivalent sig radius? To reiterate the point, it is critical that destroyer hulls have nowhere near the signature radius of cruiser hulls. Interdictors don't have the base ehp that cruisers do so should have the benefit of smaller signature to minimize incoming damage. |
Jon Marburg
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Posted - 2011.11.21 06:10:00 -
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Would really appreciate some dev input. Does CCP see this as working as intended? Are you looking into it? Any sort of light shined on the thinking behind not giving the T2 destroyers the buff the T1 destroyers are getting would be great. It's kind of frustrating to see dev responses in all the trivial forum topics, but have important topics go weeks without updates or feedback. |
Jon Marburg
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Posted - 2011.11.21 22:30:00 -
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I'd love an explanation of how this is a feature. What's the thinking on this? Because right now I hate flying dictors because in their current state I'm lucky if I come home in my pod after a large engagement. |
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