Many thanks mechtech, advice much appreciated!

Understand your concept on return if investment. At the same time, if there is so much isk in the game, it might be a good insurance against future inflation?

Cheers again
Kg

Hi forum,

I'm returning to the game after years of absence. As i left, i did get a vulture bpo from an agent. What would be the best way to utilize this in game now? Manufacture, or make copies and sell? I'm really not that interested in setting up a pos and haul stuff to get components to increase margins...

Very grateful for advice, hints, tips or tricks!
Cheers

Just to clear up some confusion on my side, are you sure it's a BPO and not a BPC.

As in a Blue Print ORIGINAL (unlinited runs) or a Blue Print COPY (not unlimited runs)

By standard profit margin estimates the Vulture BPO would only be worth 40b or so. HOWEVER, ship BPOs go for much, much more (because of the potential for enormous future profit and capital gain if the metagame shifts to make Vultures desirable).

As such, I would not sell it for less than 150 billion, even though that is in excess of 30 years profits from production.

If you do not get a suitable offer, keep it securely locked down in highsec and produce from it, or make blueprint copies from it.

WTS/WTT the following T2 BPOs:

Absolution - 200b
Astarte - 250b
Damnation - 250b
Nighthawk - 250b

30 T2 BPOs for sale..



Ive pulled the important bits. You should be looking at around those figures, regardless of meta or if the Vulture is in fashion.

Thanks, that does make perfect sense - I've got an industry char that is skilled for producing them already, and i don't have that much expenses.

Just out of curiosity, how did you reach the 40b?
Cheers

30 T2 BPOs for sale..



Ive pulled the important bits. You should be looking at around those figures, regardless of meta or if the Vulture is in fashion.

You can use site like this to estimate the yearly BPO profit. But it's a very rough estimate as the prices change all the time. People like to value T2 BPOs at ~10 years production (so in your case 40-60B easily) but as others have said high-end ship BPOs like Vulture can easily be sold for 3-4x times as much.

Also generally speaking you are better off producing from the BPO rather than making copies. It takes like 3 days+ to make one run copy while you can build almost 3 ships in that time straight from the BPO.

You can not say like 'its worth more because of the chance it will become worth more depending on future iterations".

Thats totaly bs and a big gamble. Would you gamble with 100b, with the chance of losing all the excessive isk when those chances are not happening? (as you claim a uncertain future profit)

And totaly agreeing with Big Lynx, the T2 bpo market had a hugh bubble due to the fact that lots of free tech isk was spend by alliances on buying high-end T2 bpo's, no matter what their price was (free isk). Since ISK does matter again, purchages declined and the market is correcting itsselve (look at the amount of prints for sale (hint: price is too high)).

About the pricing for the vulture. Shield fleets are history and those endless drake & tengu fleets wont come back anytime soon. Missles are rebalanced and armour has gotten a buff. Future populairity has to be questioned. Also each day only about 10 vultures sell in jita, its a very tiny sell market.

It is not the question how much this print is worth, the question is what other things you can do with the same amount of isk. (or what other prints can be bought that are equal or more profitable).

@ the Op, i am not handing out pricings on this public forum, but if you wish to sell it send me a mail.

Edit: To answere your question. The best way to utilize it is A keep it and produce or B sell it and buy better T2 bpo back or invest isk in somthing else thats more profitable.

4. I got it to ME5, so 1.7% wasteage if i remember correctly. Is it worth researching further before selling, if that would be the avenue to go down?

Thanks, that's amazing, a lot better than the spreadsheet I've set up!! :) Numbers came up very similar though!

Cheers, i really appreciate some background and history! It really raises a bunch of follow up questions.. Sorry for bringing this a bit into Off topic territory, but as TS, i'll take liberties :)

1, Why did alliances invest in T2 BPO's? To secure supplies of different ship types?

2. How many T2 BPO's were originally released per item? Has anyone ever achieved monopoly of a popular item (i.e owning all/ a majority of the BPO's?

3. in case of selling it, say 150B, what kind of investment would be reasonable from that? I guess PLEX ( a new thing since i played) is smart for protecting against inflation, but what other reasonable ways are there in investing nowadays? I.e, what would you do?

4. I got it to ME5, so 1.7% wasteage if i remember correctly. Is it worth researching further before selling, if that would be the avenue to go down?

Thanks again to everyone for the great advice - it's really appreciated! I just realised how much i've missed the community! the good, the bad, and the scams - you wouldn't believe some of the mails I've received... *chuckle* Just because I've been out, doesn't mean I'm an easy target! :)

3: Plex is bad investment as its on a big peek. 4 yrs ago it was good investment, not anymore.

Funny.