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Zeh Bookies
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Posted - 2006.05.13 02:22:00 -
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I know the definition of being pirates can be discussed but most of you know waht it means. So.. My question is, are their any SMALL 0.0 pirate corporations left ? What im talking about is, small skrimish gatecamps (incl ransoming) belt piracy (incl ransom) - just like the old JOKERS.
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raVn666
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Posted - 2006.05.13 02:25:00 -
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Exotic Dancers Club ...doug we do empireraids from time to time
Exotic dancer forum
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J4m Z
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Posted - 2006.05.13 02:50:00 -
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Jokers are inactive afaik, exotic dancers club does spend most off it's time in 0.0 if I'm not mistaking. I don't think there are any else left. Sadly most off the pirate corps have turned to gate sniping / large bs group sentry tanking.
Myself I'm a belt hunting ransom pirate through and through. Too bad for me alot of "pirates" have ruined the trust for ransoms so I'm left with killing most off those I engage.
This post contains my views and mine alone, do not confuse them with the policy of my corporation (although the belt hunting ransoming part portrays us quite nicely) or any other organisation you wish to affiliate my persona with.
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Niques Leutre
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Posted - 2006.05.13 04:49:00 -
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There are quite a number of small and medium sized corps that are technically independant, but have unofficial alliances with other nearby corps or alliances. With 3/4 of 0.0 space being under NBSI law (from territorial alliances to warring pirates), it can be quite difficult to go completely solo with a small corperation. ___________________________________
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.05.13 04:56:00 -
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Well the corp I am in is a small 0.0 pirate corp both empire and 0.0 but 0.0 mostly from the killboard mails I see (Im 0.0 solo). Then there is burn eden (if you want to consider them pirates) who are small and mostly in 0.0. I've seen sniggy in 0.0 a few times and they consider them selves piracy but mostly a lot of them stick in empire (Newer recruits).
I wish there was more non-alliance small pirate corps out there who did some stuff in 0.0 but everyone conforms or moves to empire. I'm sure there are atleast 1 or 2 I've never seen who do there thing and that's pretty much everyone who still tries to keep it alive without holding hands with blobs or trying to get into the whole politics. Maybe you should start one :P
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Xtro 2
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Posted - 2006.05.13 06:03:00 -
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I'd love to ransom/belt pirate more, but it's simply not a common thing in the areas i hang around in, you rarely catch the odd fool who doesnt watch local, and tbh their the only types you get that way, the ones with a clue (98% of them) info you the second you appear local and pelt it to the nearest station asap.
Sniping while boring is unfortunatly the better and more reliable source of income/action.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.05.13 10:12:00 -
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no pirats in 0.0 pirats in 0.0 = pvp'ers
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Specture
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:13:00 -
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0.0 just means i dont loose sec status, which is good since i moved all my toys to amarr =\
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Kelron Queldine
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:38 Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:29
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter no pirats in 0.0 pirats in 0.0 = pvp'ers
You really believe that? Killing/ransoming people for cash or loot is pirating, whether you do it in empire or 0.0. It's just harder to identify pirates in 0.0.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.05.13 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 13/05/2006 14:59:15
Originally by: Kelron Queldine Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:38 Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:29
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter no pirats in 0.0 pirats in 0.0 = pvp'ers
You really believe that? Killing/ransoming people for cash or loot is pirating, whether you do it in empire or 0.0. It's just harder to identify pirates in 0.0.
Eve is about space control to me. It's one big sandbox and it's a good thing. If you think empire is the only true piracy then you're mistaken. Empire is controlled by a faction and so is most of 0.0 space. I don't recall real life pirates only hunting near a country side. I'm sure a lot of them were out there in the middile of nowhere in lawless waters intercepting ships. Idealy that would be the best place being it's far from any type of help or friends who might be near by. 0.0 is the ideal waters for a lot of pirates to fly in. It has everything that is needed for a pirate.
-Players -Miners -Cargo Ships -Production (Controlling production corps to build resources) -No Security Hits -Controlled (Alliance controlled)
There is nothing really wrong with empire. It's like mining in 0.3 compared to 0.5. It's just not worth the risk of going into 0.3 when you can lose less and have less troubles mining in 0.5. It's the same thing compared to 0.0 and 0.4-0.1 security status. It's just must eaiser to hunt where less combat/alliances control/fly than going into 0.0 to risk much more. Yet then again 0.4-0.1 rewards compared to 0.0 rewards as far as mining refrence is much greater. Piracy in empire can be good if not as better than 0.0 piracy due to the cargo some people drop.
Empire Piracy = Easy Mode, Can be very rewarding 0.0 Piracy = Hard Mode, Can be very rewarding
Personaly there is no diffrence from the carebears I kill in empire than the sheep alliances I kill in 0.0. One is much more fun than the other but all drop good loot for me to refine, sell, or gloat with.
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.05.13 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Zeh Bookies I know the definition of being pirates can be discussed but most of you know waht it means. So.. My question is, are their any SMALL 0.0 pirate corporations left ? What im talking about is, small skrimish gatecamps (incl ransoming) belt piracy (incl ransom) - just like the old JOKERS.
Don't forget us! o/ --------------------------------------
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.05.13 17:04:00 -
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I think my corp is in 0.0. I am too, but i havnt undocked in over a month
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LordXL
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Posted - 2006.05.13 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Zeh Bookies
My question is, are their any SMALL 0.0 pirate corporations left ? What im talking about is, small skrimish gatecamps (incl ransoming) belt piracy (incl ransom) - just like the old JOKERS.
We do this and we're recruiting.
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.05.13 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: raVn666 Exotic Dancers Club ...doug we do empireraids from time to time
I knew someday you would go pirate 
~Eximius Josari, Hegemon of the E.A.R.T.H. Federation |

Commander Thrawn
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Posted - 2006.05.13 21:46:00 -
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the establisment is a 0.0 pirate corp. a pretty good one at that. they operate in lower providence and have a mothership. were taking down some pos's in KBP last i heard and camp gate often enough.
S.a.s is another one, they operated futher north although i really dunno if they are still around or not as i have moved out of the region.
im fairly certain most 0.0 region have their own pirates
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raVn666
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Posted - 2006.05.14 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Eximius Josari
Originally by: raVn666 Exotic Dancers Club ...doug we do empireraids from time to time
I knew someday you would go pirate 
Yarrrr !!!  
Exotic dancer forum
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Agif
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Posted - 2006.05.14 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Zeh Bookies I know the definition of being pirates can be discussed but most of you know waht it means. So.. My question is, are their any SMALL 0.0 pirate corporations left ? What im talking about is, small skrimish gatecamps (incl ransoming) belt piracy (incl ransom) - just like the old JOKERS.
any pirate corperation that takes up home in 0.0 is just any old corp with an nbsi policy, and who they going to camp in there home turf, apart from the odd gank fleet that comes through.
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Zeh Bookies
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Posted - 2006.05.14 17:37:00 -
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TDG do live in 0.0 from time to time but its a 30 member corp and not what i consider "small". Exotic dancers is more like it size-wise but knowing some of them from the new generation of teddybears i doubt they have the same class-act as the old jokers. The establishment is probably more like it, but i still think 26 members is alot. I guess thats what is needed when a "small" pirate corp wants to use capital ships. Burn Eden, hmm well they are probably topclass pvpers but i dont see them fit into the "pirate" categori. Never spoken to them ingame, so how they "act" is something i cant comment on. I hope there will still be a couple of small pirate corporations around (none-alliance corps) cause the way eve evolves, its becoming more and more of a blob fest, regardless of what your roles is.
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Ange1
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Posted - 2006.05.14 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ange1 on 14/05/2006 18:01:35 If the aquisition of a Mothership in the hands of a small corp like ours, does not already prove that small pirate corps can make a name for themselves, then I don't know what can. The Establishment has and always will be a small group of people and we have no interest at all in Alliance politics.
I find small groups of people far more fun because its easier to establish a closer relationship with your pilots and a tight knit team is formed as a result.
The Establishment is at your service...
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.05.14 18:28:00 -
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We kind of fall into that category. But ransoming in 0.0 isn't very popular as lot is generally a lot better than in low sec. Full t2 setups are very common and an increasing number of people fit faction/office mods on their npc hunting ships to such an extent that it becomes much more worthwhile to kill everything rather than ransom. We are all multi-billionaires from doing this, and this alone. We are a small corp and we shoot everything so if that makes us pirates then yeah.
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Calisto Lockhart
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Posted - 2006.05.14 19:41:00 -
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*coughs*
The Black Swan Society
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.05.14 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kelron Queldine Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:38 Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:29
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter no pirats in 0.0 pirats in 0.0 = pvp'ers
You really believe that? Killing/ransoming people for cash or loot is pirating, whether you do it in empire or 0.0. It's just harder to identify pirates in 0.0.
um yeah cos neutral shooting in 0.4-0.1 = sec loss = pirating neutral shooting in 0.0 = no sec loss = pvp
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Handon Guild
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Posted - 2006.05.15 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Kelron Queldine Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:38 Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:29
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter no pirats in 0.0 pirats in 0.0 = pvp'ers
You really believe that? Killing/ransoming people for cash or loot is pirating, whether you do it in empire or 0.0. It's just harder to identify pirates in 0.0.
um yeah cos neutral shooting in 0.4-0.1 = sec loss = pirating neutral shooting in 0.0 = no sec loss = pvp
Bull****!
PVP = Player Versus Player! To be a pirate, you have to PVP, no matter what! So, a pirate is a pvp'er, nothing to argue about there! I really don't get you people, who think that a persons title can be changed, based on the security zone he is in!
That means, that if I go to Vestouve and kill someone, I'm a pirate. Now, if I jump into TXW right after that, and kill someone, I'm not a pirate, I'm a pvp'er ...
Gimme a break here - that doesn't make any sense!
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.05.15 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Handon Guild
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Kelron Queldine Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:38 Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:29
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter no pirats in 0.0 pirats in 0.0 = pvp'ers
You really believe that? Killing/ransoming people for cash or loot is pirating, whether you do it in empire or 0.0. It's just harder to identify pirates in 0.0.
um yeah cos neutral shooting in 0.4-0.1 = sec loss = pirating neutral shooting in 0.0 = no sec loss = pvp
Bull****!
PVP = Player Versus Player! To be a pirate, you have to PVP, no matter what! So, a pirate is a pvp'er, nothing to argue about there! I really don't get you people, who think that a persons title can be changed, based on the security zone he is in!
That means, that if I go to Vestouve and kill someone, I'm a pirate. Now, if I jump into TXW right after that, and kill someone, I'm not a pirate, I'm a pvp'er ...
Gimme a break here - that doesn't make any sense!
dont be so rude that was just joke  
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Backdoor Bandit
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Posted - 2006.05.15 09:33:00 -
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There are no pirates in 0.0
Quite a few bandits though. -------------
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Handon Guild
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Posted - 2006.05.15 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Handon Guild
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Kelron Queldine Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:38 Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:29
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter no pirats in 0.0 pirats in 0.0 = pvp'ers
You really believe that? Killing/ransoming people for cash or loot is pirating, whether you do it in empire or 0.0. It's just harder to identify pirates in 0.0.
um yeah cos neutral shooting in 0.4-0.1 = sec loss = pirating neutral shooting in 0.0 = no sec loss = pvp
Bull****!
PVP = Player Versus Player! To be a pirate, you have to PVP, no matter what! So, a pirate is a pvp'er, nothing to argue about there! I really don't get you people, who think that a persons title can be changed, based on the security zone he is in!
That means, that if I go to Vestouve and kill someone, I'm a pirate. Now, if I jump into TXW right after that, and kill someone, I'm not a pirate, I'm a pvp'er ...
Gimme a break here - that doesn't make any sense!
dont be so rude that was just joke  
Sorry man, I didn't realize 
But some people are serious about that ****, and it just p1sses me off 
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.05.15 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Handon Guild
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Handon Guild
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Kelron Queldine Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:38 Edited by: Kelron Queldine on 13/05/2006 11:25:29
Originally by: wierchas noobhunter no pirats in 0.0 pirats in 0.0 = pvp'ers
You really believe that? Killing/ransoming people for cash or loot is pirating, whether you do it in empire or 0.0. It's just harder to identify pirates in 0.0.
um yeah cos neutral shooting in 0.4-0.1 = sec loss = pirating neutral shooting in 0.0 = no sec loss = pvp
Bull****!
PVP = Player Versus Player! To be a pirate, you have to PVP, no matter what! So, a pirate is a pvp'er, nothing to argue about there! I really don't get you people, who think that a persons title can be changed, based on the security zone he is in!
That means, that if I go to Vestouve and kill someone, I'm a pirate. Now, if I jump into TXW right after that, and kill someone, I'm not a pirate, I'm a pvp'er ...
Gimme a break here - that doesn't make any sense!
dont be so rude that was just joke  
Sorry man, I didn't realize 
But some people are serious about that ****, and it just p1sses me off 
np btw: i <3 Exotic Dancers Club u guys 4tw 
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Bacchuss
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Posted - 2006.05.15 10:46:00 -
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is shooting roids in 0.0 with mining lasers, pirating?
if so, then I'm a pirate
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enjoi
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Posted - 2006.05.15 10:49:00 -
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You can pirate in 00.
Preying on the innocent never changes, but you could define yourself differently.
As opposed to "Empire rat/pirate", try Buccaneer, Privateer, Corsair, kaper, vrijbuiter, picaroon, knave. 
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boo3916
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Posted - 2006.05.15 12:05:00 -
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 my corp yesodic nomads do the occaisional bit of pirating in empire but 95% of our kills come in 0.0 we have an nbsi policy which means more targets, but we are also there to be shot back at as well. the name pirate is lame anyway, at the end of the day in 0.0 its pvp after all most alliances are pirates if u call defending there space and killing neutrals
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